Gas Sers

allycavs

Hi Guys,

Im renovating a bed sit at the mo. There is no central heating into the bed sit. Do you think a gas ser is capable of easily heating the room to a cosy temperature. The room is 15.5 feet x 10.5 feet x 8 feet high

Are they economical to use as the primary heating in the bed sit. I was thinking of getting a catalytic ser which are safer as there is no flame.

As for venting, is it ok just leave a small window open while its operating.

Thanks
Alan

Alun

I'm confused .. what on earth is a 'ser'?

allycavs

These things
http://www.flogas.ie/onlinestore/product2.php

RoryMurphyJnr

Superser from Powercity.€100
Bottle of gas about €35

Works a treat, leave it on for about 15 mins no need for an open window

coylemj

Butane and propane heaters output large amounts of water into the air which on cold nights will lead to major condensation on the walls. Both are hydrocarbons so when you burn the gas you get CO2 (carbon dioxide) and H2O (water).

A gas heater may be cheaper than electricity but just be aware of the consequences and make sure to air the flat during the day.

allycavs

The consequnce beeing that the placed needs to be aired? is it ok to air with a small window while the ser is been used? and not during the day if the place is vacant. i know nothing about these heaters. just think its a handy solution to avoid a central heatingh headache

Thanks as well Rory.

byte

These used to be relatively common some years ago.

I recall some used to put a basin of water on top of it, apparently to absorb fumes? Sounds like an old wifes tale to me, but maybe the water has some effect?

Carlow52

coylemj wrote: »

Butane and propane heaters output large amounts of water into the air which on cold nights will lead to major condensation on the walls. Both are hydrocarbons so when you burn the gas you get CO2 (carbon dioxide) and H2O (water).

A gas heater may be cheaper than electricity but just be aware of the consequences and make sure to air the flat during the day.

+1
These are high risk products for such a small space: an elec heater is a much safer idea, assuming the wiring is up to scratch.

They are not the right product here

allycavs

yes but the electrical heaters will eat the electricty. your bill would be huge hence why i wanted to avoid them

Carlow52

allycavs wrote: »

yes but the electrical heaters will eat the electricty. your bill would be huge hence why i wanted to avoid them

The cost of energy is by and large the same at this level, especially when you include the convenience of elec as opposed to lugging gas cylinders around the place so to suggest that elec will be a much more expensive option is a fallacy.

Get a prepay meter fitted which will control the cost in the same way as having to have money for the gas cylinder.

As noted earlier they produce lots of condensation and carbon dioxide and if not kept serviced carbon monoxide, aka the silent killer.

Thermostatically controlled oil filled elec heaters can keep a room at a nice steady temp, something you just cant do with a super ser. In addition, with a timer you can time the elec, something you cant do with the superser.

However you seem to have your mind set on the super ser so I will stop here.

allycavs

i wouldnt say that Carlow you have given me ffood for thought so I will look into them too now

Stinicker

I have a large attic which is totally floored and is like a basement with all various things up there, the last two winters we have had trouble with freezing pipes which freeze under the floor of the attic due to the insulation. I was thinking of maybe getting one or two of these superser's and throwing them up there and lighting them up when we get that foot or so of snow we are getting used to now.

How are they on gas I wonder?

Not permitted in a attic or bedroom

Unless you want to dry your lungs out:eek: they require 2500mm2 of ventilation per KW with a minimum of 6500mm2 to outside air.

antoinolachtnai

Naked-flame gas heaters are really not a great thing to be getting involved with. It took 40 years to get 'em out of all the rental accommodation. I suppose they have their uses, but for rental property and attics they are definitely best avoided.

If you are having problems with your pipes frequently freezing, and your attic has been insulated, someone has done something wrong or sub-par. The best thing is to get it fixed, and then if you need to put in some sort of heater that is designed for this sort of situation.