Gonna leave

Led Zeppelin The Clash

So tell me this.
I plan on leaving school once 16.
My bday is in OCT
So When I start 5th do I have to stay the entire year?

Look nothing will change me I AM going to leave but some info from irish ppl Would really help me since the internet is pretty biased to USA and Uk.

I appreciate all answers.
Peace good friends

cork2

hey, no you dont have to complete 5th year. In 2005 i left after the J.C. i did about 2 months of fifth year and then left my parents and I just had to sign a form in the school. Look you said your mind wont be changed and thats fair enough but what do you plan on doing??? I left and did an apprenticeship but you wont get that now because employers cant garantee you the work. Plus you want out of school now as I did 6 years ago but what you dont get is how much your gonna miss! All Im saying is there is no work in ireland and internationally the world is a nasty place with no quals, so if i had my time again then Id tell you stay in school, have fun, get the leaving cert and most of all BE YOUNG! theres plenty of time to grow up.

Twin-go

As far as I know you can leave on your 16th birthday as long as you have completed the Junior Cert, but there are restrictions on working hours until 18.

Also in the current jobs market in Ireland you will be competing with many people that have 3rd level qualifications.

Would you nit think of doing something like the applied LC instead. You should at least complete second level to increase your job prospects.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

Woah Thanks guys I thought the answers were gonna be uptight haha.
I plan on concentrating on music I have a strong distaste towards school.
I just can't hang on till the leaving cert

wiger toods

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

So tell me this.
I plan on leaving school once 16.
My bday is in OCT
So When I start 5th do I have to stay the entire year?

Look nothing will change me I AM going to leave but some info from irish ppl Would really help me since the internet is pretty biased to USA and Uk.

I appreciate all answers.
Peace good friends

Why do you want to leave school for buddy?
If i were you id stay in school, then head to college for yourself in a couple of years. if i had a euro for each time i have heard various people say 'Life sucks outside of school' and 'jaysus i wish i could be back there now' id be a rich man. They'l be no talking to you, i know from when i was your age, But trust me, You'd be better off hanging in there and getting an education.

Kev.

I hated school with a passion and I mean a passion....

Im so glad I stayed in school and done my leaving,If I didnt do it I wouldnt have the job Im in now

If you are going to leave make sure you have something lined up or you'll regret it.......

All the best

Led Zeppelin The Clash

wiger toods wrote: »

Why do you want to leave school for buddy?
If i were you id stay in school, then head to college for yourself in a couple of years. if i had a euro for each time i have heard various people say 'Life sucks outside of school' and 'jaysus i wish i could be back there now' id be a rich man. They'l be no talking to you, i know from when i was your age, But trust me, You'd be better off hanging in there and getting an education.

I just can't and I think we would be here all night if I described how much I hate school.
I love music so much School is in the way

Hank_Jones

Legally it is which ever comes later, the junior cert or your 16th birthday.

So you will be able to leave in October if you wish to do so.

As others are saying, you should probably look at sitting some sort of leaving cert, have you looked at the applied leaving cert?

There aren't many prospects for somebody who is 16 and if you're looking at getting an apprenticeship, they are fairly think on the ground at this stage.

You should weigh up your options.

wiger toods

cork2 wrote: »

hey, no you dont have to complete 5th year. In 2005 i left after the J.C. i did about 2 months of fifth year and then left my parents and I just had to sign a form in the school. Look you said your mind wont be changed and thats fair enough but what do you plan on doing??? I left and did an apprenticeship but you wont get that now because employers cant garantee you the work. Plus you want out of school now as I did 6 years ago but what you dont get is how much your gonna miss! All Im saying is there is no work in ireland and internationally the world is a nasty place with no quals, so if i had my time again then Id tell you stay in school, have fun, get the leaving cert and most of all BE YOUNG! theres plenty of time to grow up.

Yep, Well said!

Oh_Noes

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I just can't and I think we would be here all night if I described how much I hate school.
I love music so much School is in the way

If you took on music for the leaving cert and concentrated hard on it, you could do the thing you like to do so much (music) as well as equipping yourself well for employment/self employment in the music industry after. If you can learn to read music well you're already giving yourself a good head start on the average jobbing musician out there.

I'm trying not to nag you like you said in your post but I can't help it, I think you could really use school to your advantage in your musical life as opposed to seeing it as an obstacle.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

I want to Get good results in the jc for A telecaster then I just want to leave and pursue my life

Twin-go

I'm not going to tell you what you should do. Only you with your parents can make that choice.

I would how ever look at other options than dropping out.

How about looking at what options are out there in third level in terms of music courses. Most require a LC as a minimum for entry. You could stay in school and still focus a lot of energy into music. If your current school doesn't have a big focus on music look to transfer to one that does.

Honestly, leaving school at such a young age will close a lot more doors than it will open.

When you think about it, it's only two more years. It may seem like two years is a long time but trust me as you get to the other side of 30 the years fly past.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

Is there any chance of JUST studying music as a sole subject

yellowlabrador

I too was determined to leave school at 16. I spent the summer looking for work and realizing that the only work I could find were bum jobs for little money. I reluctantly went back and was pleasantly surprised. That 3rd year was crap with constant revision and teacher and parent scare tactics. I was bored.
Once in 5th year, study became interesting again and I actually did well and went on to uni. I'd say, leave if you have to but leave the door open to return the next year if you change your mind. I don't think the junior cert stretches the brightest kids.
What ever you do, always be prepared to change your mind if you feel you're heading down a dead end.
One girl I know has just gone to uni at age 24, without a junior cert or leaving cert, so it's never too late.
Make the most of your life, not all successful people have a scholarly background.

empacher

Suck it up princess!
All of us thought we could be doing something better I thought I could make it as a bartender, but two years later I was sick of getting needless abuse, split shifts, cleaning puke, piss, and sh*t covered toilets and having no social life.

Now I'mm doing a degree in physics

wiger toods

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I just can't and I think we would be here all night if I described how much I hate school.
I love music so much School is in the way

Yeah i hear you, i used to feel like that too. Only my passion was/still is to some degree, soccer. I thought i hated school too. seriously hated it. After i had my leaving cert done and finished school i started working in a bloody factory for a couple of years while i waited for 'my time'. I thought going to college would prevent the football career from happening. As if working in a ****ty job 9-5, mon-sat, was going to improve my chances anyway. Wasnt until i had been working in that factory for a while how i quickly realised how much i missed school and how fcuking stupid i had been not heading to college like the rest of my friends did. Things are fine now for me, but i always wished that someone would have pulled me aside at some stage back then and said 'focus on getting an education for yourself while working on the football maybe, its possible to do both you know', or something along those lines anyway, I probably wouldnt have been able to be told though all the same. When your that age you think you can take on the world and win. Good luck with whatever you choose to do anyway LZTC

Fluorescence

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Is there any chance of JUST studying music as a sole subject

Solely for Leaving Cert? No. You'd find it very dull if you did only that for 2 years anyway (the music course isn't that bulky that you'd find it all-consuming for 2 years). I would highly recommend sticking with school though, doing music for your leaving, and then looking at college courses in music. Keeping up with your education will help your music career in more ways than you can possibly imagine.

Look at all the possible music-related careers out there, including sound technology and production. There's a really good chance that you'll be passionate and brilliant at those careers: but you have to get through school first. It really really will be worth it.

andrew

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Is there any chance of JUST studying music as a sole subject

There are some 3rd level courses in music alright, but obviously you need a leaving cert for that.

If you drop out now, it's almost a certainty that you'll either go back and get a LC at some stage, or spend the rest of your life relatively poor while sponging off your parents. If you really truly like music, there are third level courses for that; you should see the rest of school as not blocking your way toward doing music, but actually helping you on your way.

The Internet Explorer

Stay in school.

F*** it.

Start a band or something.

Write some music or something.

Take a different outlook on things.

Perception.

Time.

Two years. That's all.

F*** it.

Head down.

Be cool.

Say f*** it. SAY IT.

Look back in two years time and say that wasn't so bad.

Just chill. For two more years.

2 years in school = 334 days

You can do it.

Or alternatively you could leave. That's entirely up to you. You may regret it when you're older though. Do what you gotta do. Always. Think long and hard about it.

This important decision may decide the course that your life takes. Whether that be good or bad.

Slow Show

OP, can you summarise briefly what exactly you don't like about school?

I know you don't want to be convinced otherwise, but if it makes any difference at all Leaving Cert is about ten times more interesting than Junior Cert if you pick your subjects right.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

I hate how Individualism is not allowed I hate the 'No Bad Language rule'Thats censorship in my eyes.
I hate how it invades my life I hate feeling like I'm some sort of factory produced goverment brainwashed P.O.S.]]
I hate the Irish language it reeks of Conservitism in my mind Its a ****ing disgusting language that I want no part of yet its forced upon me.

Do these teachers even know what interests us?It isn't W.B ****ing yeats or Peig Seiyer(Or whatever the hell he's called)
I hate waking up dreading life knowing my life is This after school >Get Job>Get Married>Have Kids>Kill Myself.

I wanna be me! I want to be an INDIVIDUAL.
I hate everything about it!Its like''Bring in the next batch of kids and the next and the next.''

I hate being stuck in there with snobby teachers I hate being stuck there with teeny boppers I'M ****ING SICK OF IT ALL!

Believe me theres plenty more reasons and I mean PLENTY!

Mr.Success

From that rant i know your smart, its such a pity that nearly all smart people feel out of place in a school environment because they can see farther than their peers.
But at the end of the day Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerburg all were dropouts but they were true genius' and made it big. Who knows where you might end up

Fluorescence

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I hate how Individualism is not allowed I hate the 'No Bad Language rule'Thats censorship in my eyes.
I hate how it invades my life I hate feeling like I'm some sort of factory produced goverment brainwashed P.O.S.]]

Unfortunately, swearing makes you seem childish (I'm not saying that to lecture you, I curse all the time :pac:) and if teachers think you're childish they'll treat you like a kid who's been caught saying "Fuck" to his little sister. If you curse sparingly around people who you know will be offended/annoyed by the language though, you'll find teachers won't care so much.

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I hate the Irish language it reeks of Conservitism in my mind Its a ****ing disgusting language that I want no part of yet its forced upon me.

You don't have to do Irish (no one can make you turn up to the classes or take the exams). Schools do everything they can to encourage you to take Irish since the vast majority of college courses require it for entry. Ultimately it's your own choice though. Talk to your school.

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Do these teachers even know what interests us?It isn't W.B ****ing yeats or Peig Seiyer(Or whatever the hell he's called)

They know most students in their class don't share their passion for their particular subject. However they're much more relaxed from 4th/5th year onwards. They'll treat you like an adult if you act like one. They'll help you to do the best you can in their subject if you treat it even slightly seriously. Most teachers I hated from junior cert suddenly became cool after 3rd year was over - by the time I left school they were the ones I valued and admired most.

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I hate waking up dreading life knowing my life is This after school >Get Job>Get Married>Have Kids>Kill Myself.

I wanna be me! I want to be an INDIVIDUAL.

Be an individual then. You can do whatever you want with your life, but let's be honest: you will have so much more opportunities available to you if you at least get through second-level (and if you do go on to university after that, believe me it's a MILLION times better than school. Seriously, it's awesome). You don't have to follow the job->marriage->kids->gardeninggardeninggardening->death path of life. However, I have noticed that all the people who dropped out of school in my life have crap lives now (by their own admission) - they sit at home all day bored out of their minds. Their lives are far more boring and routine than those who went on to college to study their passions (many of whom earn enough money now to travel regularly).

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I hate everything about it!Its like''Bring in the next batch of kids and the next and the next.''

I hate being stuck in there with snobby teachers I hate being stuck there with teeny boppers I'M ****ING SICK OF IT ALL!

Believe me theres plenty more reasons and I mean PLENTY!

Maybe it's an issue with your particular school. Mine was amazing for really getting to know each student (and it was no fancy pants private school either). The teachers really bent over backwards to help us if we showed any small interest in their subjects at all, and treated us like adults with different wants and needs from education. Maybe transferring school would help you out with many of your particular issues with education.

Conchir

Just on the subject of teachers:

At Junior Cycle, teachers seem (and usually are), really annoying, to put it simply. However, after the JC, they become much more sound, and you will actually start to have a bit of craic in class with them, and out of class. Seriously, for the Senior Cycle, many teachers can be one of the best elements of school, along with your friends obviously. They treat you like adults, and more importantly, people. It's great being able to have normal conversations with them, and getting away with more than before the JC.

That's just a reply to your problem with your teachers. I'm not trying to sway you, it's your own choice. I just wanted to share what I'm experiencing at school now.

galwayash

OP, have you thought of staying on and doing the Leaving Cert Applied? You might find the subjects more interesting as they are more applied and there is a work experience module. It might suit you better.

Good luck with whatever you do

spurious

Most of the frustration expressed in your post OP is to do with your age.
It's called growing up.

You would be crazy to leave school without any useful qualification, no matter how talented or interested you are in another field.

You probably don't want to hear that, but it's what most of the responses to your post have suggested.

P H A 7V T O M

It's because of all that new-fangled Rock and Roll you've been listening to, like Led Zeppelin and the Clash! Actually, well done for that. You've got taste my friend, and that goes a long way. A career path in music is a very risky one though. Be cautious whatever you do.

MyKeyG

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I hate how Individualism is not allowed I hate the 'No Bad Language rule'Thats censorship in my eyes.
I hate how it invades my life I hate feeling like I'm some sort of factory produced goverment brainwashed P.O.S.]]
I hate the Irish language it reeks of Conservitism in my mind Its a ****ing disgusting language that I want no part of yet its forced upon me.

Do these teachers even know what interests us?It isn't W.B ****ing yeats or Peig Seiyer(Or whatever the hell he's called)
I hate waking up dreading life knowing my life is This after school >Get Job>Get Married>Have Kids>Kill Myself.

I wanna be me! I want to be an INDIVIDUAL.
I hate everything about it!Its like''Bring in the next batch of kids and the next and the next.''

I hate being stuck in there with snobby teachers I hate being stuck there with teeny boppers I'M ****ING SICK OF IT ALL!

Believe me there's plenty more reasons and I mean PLENTY!

It seems your animosity has less to do with school and more to do with life in general. If you think individuality and liberation is waiting for you beyond the school gates you're only fooling yourself. The real world is full of bosses who are just as snobby as your teachers, workmates with the IQ of staplers who are none too fond of swearing themselves and when it comes to your job nobody will give a crap what interests you.

NathanOR

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I hate how Individualism is not allowed I hate the 'No Bad Language rule'Thats censorship in my eyes.
I hate how it invades my life I hate feeling like I'm some sort of factory produced goverment brainwashed P.O.S.]]
I hate the Irish language it reeks of Conservitism in my mind Its a ****ing disgusting language that I want no part of yet its forced upon me.

Do these teachers even know what interests us?It isn't W.B ****ing yeats or Peig Seiyer(Or whatever the hell he's called)
I hate waking up dreading life knowing my life is This after school >Get Job>Get Married>Have Kids>Kill Myself.

I wanna be me! I want to be an INDIVIDUAL.
I hate everything about it!Its like''Bring in the next batch of kids and the next and the next.''

I hate being stuck in there with snobby teachers I hate being stuck there with teeny boppers I'M ****ING SICK OF IT ALL!

Believe me theres plenty more reasons and I mean PLENTY!

From what I read, this seems to be just a problem with your school. I happen to love my school (as much as its possible to love school... i mean i still hate those dull maths but hey... what you gonna do? :P) but the people and teachers are great. The flaw with individuality in our school is the uniforms... we're all the same in a fashion sense, but you know what it has its upsides. But in our school every year has its groups.. you have the sporty guys, the girly girls, the smart kids (not nerds, they dont get picked on or anything), the Goths, Emos, the art and music kids... the list is endless, and everyone gets on in harmony... it just works! :P

Now in my school no teacher gives out about bad language unless we use it in a abusive way towards others.. which i think is the best rule ever. Like in English we are alod to use bad language (well to a certain extent, obviously you dont write something down like "I hated that character i thought she was a c**k sucking b**th" but you can write something like " That character didnt really appeal to me, she seemed like a right whore, in comparison to the others!"

Ah, this is where i disagree with you, Irish. My beloved. I think its woderful to be able to speak the native language of your country. I mean with Irish you can do something that no one in America can do and no one in Australia can do. But I know whats wrong with you, you have one of this teachers that spends classes doing verbs, nouns, writing, poetry day in and day out. Theres your problem. I was lucky enough to get the most amazing Irish teacher in the world! She makes Irish so much fun. We had an orienteering game around our school and doing so we learned the names of different rooms in the school. Its stuff like that she does and just makes learning so enjoyable. I mean there is no one in my Irish class that goes "Aww crap we've Irish next" :P

Hey listen school isnt really about interesting each student individualy its about teaching us things that we may want to use in later life. I mean English may not suit you but I'm sure that there is someone in your English class that loves English, and would love to pursue it in later life. Just as you would do in Music Class!

Now your life is under no circumstances laid out for you, you can leave school, and travel if you want, then come back and go to college, live your life, get a job, then maybe get married and have kids. Did you ever actually imagine how good that might actually be. Whereas if you drop out now you do realise you may never get that? You may not want it now, i mean who our age does but how about in the future?

Oh and listen everyone and I mean EVERYONE has one or two crappy teacher (Ms Up-the-duff-trampy-face... you know who you are ) So thats just a way of life my friend! :P

Also you worried about two more years right, but sure i mean you have to do 6 or 7 subjects in the Leaving. I mean
1,2,3 are Maths, English, Irish
4, should be a language
5, should be a science
6, should be music for you
and if you have to do 7 - pick something you enjoy besides music!!

Its not going to be so bad.. just keep your options open!

Led Zeppelin The Clash

Hmm ^You have the best school I have heard.
I might consider it... to stay on and do the leaving but I mean I love English and am alright at it but if you even say the word 'Crap' You will be knocking on the detention door for ''Use of obscene language'' I thought it was outrageous.
Next day my friend shouted out LOUDLY'White Power **** the ****!'
He's no racist he lost a bet and had to do it they asked the black kid is he ok and he was fine(Atleast he said so)Anyhow the teacher called him up and said ''Don't say that go back to your seat' I felt like kicking her in the head.

I might stay for school I heard college is an absolute laugh so I might stay in prison a little while and study music in college.
(BTW if I study music at college do I have to do other subjects or ''Irish'')

Fluorescence

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Hmm ^You have the best school I have heard.
I might consider it... to stay on and do the leaving but I mean I love English and am alright at it but if you even say the word 'Crap' You will be knocking on the detention door for ''Use of obscene language'' I thought it was outrageous.
Next day my friend shouted out LOUDLY'White Power **** the ****!'
He's no racist he lost a bet and had to do it they asked the black kid is he ok and he was fine(Atleast he said so)Anyhow the teacher called him up and said ''Don't say that go back to your seat' I felt like kicking her in the head.

I might stay for school I heard college is an absolute laugh so I might stay in prison a little while and study music in college.
(BTW if I study music at college do I have to do other subjects or ''Irish'')

No. You can do a pure music course - a BA in Music or a even a BMus. And that's only counting music as academia. If you choose to go into performance or music related fields like production and music technology there's a whole lot of choice available.

You can study absolutely anything you want in college - it's truly wonderful.

Storminateacup

You'll never have to open another Irish book after 6th year, I promise. And 6th year will fly so fast that you won't know what's going on.

I hated school and spent most of the junior cycle in detention or being suspended, and I hated 5th year but you know what, I'm glad my mother used to threathen me with violence and make me go, because if I hadn't, I know I'd never be doing what I'm doing now -- and I love it.

Stay in school -- it's two years dude. The real world sucks, I promise.
Get your leaving cert and get your music course in college. College is amazing. You'll meet so many people on the same page as you, and it's a chance to grow and really find who you are.

You sound so intelligent. Don't throw it away because of a couple stupid snottrag teachers. It's 2 years that will shape the rest of your life.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

fluorescence wrote: »

No. You can do a pure music course - a BA in Music or a even a BMus. And that's only counting music as academia. If you choose to go into performance or music related fields like production and music technology there's a whole lot of choice available.

You can study absolutely anything you want in college - it's truly wonderful.

But like what would I be getting out of it?
Like if I started a band would this help

Fluorescence

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

But like what would I be getting out of it?
Like if I started a band would this help

The theoretical grounding you get in university is extremely helpful. Besides, there's a lot of different aspects for you to choose from in music that you can basically decide what will be of interest and benefit to you. Have a quick look at the syllabii of different music courses in various universities.

(I would imagine an excellent knowledge of the sound production end of music would be of immense benefit if you aim to be a recorded artist).

Storminateacup

And not to poop all over your parade, but music might not be what you want to do in 5 years time. From the age of 9, I was determined I wanted to be a guard just like my dad.

I was obsessed with it, right up until I was about 19, where I toyed with the idea of being a prison officer instead, which I applied for. I went to college as something to do while I Waited to get into the guards, and when I finished college, I decided this isn't what I want at all -- went and done beauty therapy and here I am, can't imagine doing anything else.

Im not saying you're gonna change your mind - but at least give yourself the option to. Don't put yourself in a position of where you feel trapped

PseudoFamous

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

I might stay for school I heard college is an absolute laugh so I might stay in prison a little while and study music in college.

This is how I know you're trolling.

ConorLSB

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Next day my friend shouted out LOUDLY 'White Power **** the ****!'
He's no racist he lost a bet and had to do it they asked the black kid is he ok and he was fine(Atleast he said so)Anyhow the teacher called him up and said ''Don't say that go back to your seat' I felt like kicking her in the head.

Are you fucking serious? That's racist, end of. He deserved a lot more than a simple telling off. What did you expect the teacher to do? Just let it go?

Led Zeppelin The Clash

PseudoFamous wrote: »

This is how I know you're trolling.

and you sir/madam/whatever the **** you are can **** right off!

Led Zeppelin The Clash

ConorLSB wrote: »

Are you fucking serious? That's racist, end of. He deserved a lot more than a simple telling off. What did you expect the teacher to do? Just let it go?

I know!
I can't believe it either but yeah in case your wondering I didn't tell him to do it or get involved he just shouted it and I was like 'What the **** man!'
He then explained what happened.

oldyouth

OP I hated school, but from where I came from, it wasn't an option for me to leave at your stage.

I've had some setbacks in life and some pretty good moments too. All I know is that the more options you give yourself, the better chance you have of finding happiness. At 49 years of age, I firmly believe that life is too short to stuff a mushroom and happiness, without hurting anyone, is what we are all here to try and achieve.

What I am trying to say is that if music is your vocation in life, then follow it through. However, life needs a practical aspect too. You will need a job to earn money to allow you follow your dreams and have a fall back option if these dreams change at any time in the future. I'm nowhere near where I thought I would be 30 years ago, but I am (fairly) happy. Looking back, the roads that brought me here might not have been available had I chucked away the last couple of years of my education. What I thought would never be of any use in the future, came to my rescue when I needed it most

Best of luck in what you decide

ConorLSB

Just looking through your post history, I see you've been caught drinking, smashing windows, and stealing. Stay in school. Chances are you will just end up in trouble if you drop out.

Leaving school at 16 but having an interest and passion for music. Stick it out I'd recommend, drop to all pass subjects for the Leaving if you want and do cery little or close to it study wise, there are a lot of hours in the week to kill if you aren't in school.

You'll have no chance of getting a full time job until you are older, practically no chance of getting an apprenticeship etc without a leaving these days.

What do you plan on doing all day every day ??

No many liked school really, some just let the positives of it let them think they did.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

Leaving possibly leaves more negative effects than positive effects.
On the plus time I will have more time for Guitar,Writing and Stealing(Haha just joking about that last one)

But I won't be able to get a job to afford Equipment and thats a pretty big negative.
Also **** no will I become a 30something year old living in my parents house with a 10 watt amp moping how my life is so 'difficult' and I'm full of dispair.

FueledByAisling

I'm in fifth year at the moment, and up until now I was wasn't exactly considering it but I feared that I would drop out due to laziness. But since we started I got such a reality check and please just try fifth year out, it's really not that hard.
It's great you're passionate about music but to be honest it isn't something you can rely on. Every industry at the moment is going downhill at the moment especially music, the only income you'll be making is from playing shows, not from any albums or tshirts you sell. But even from gigs you might not make that much money to live off of if you don't end up extremely successful.

You've been slaving away for the past 12 years in school, really ask yourself can you not last the next 2? It's not even 2 years it's less than 39 weeks of school which will will fly by as well! And you could even not pay that much attention in school because if music fails at least you have a LC to fall back on instead of nothing. You could however look at schools in England (or another country if you speak the language), I know in England they've dedicated schools that concentrate on music but I don't know about the costs or anything that much so you'll have to look it up yourself.

Making it in the music industry is tough, it's all about connections to get anywhere and unless your living in America or the UK your chances of success are already declined as we don't have such a big industry here. Only in recent years have more Irish bands been appearing on the scene but this is after nearly 7-10 years of trying so hard.All I'm saying is give fifth year a shot before making such a big decision, perhaps go study a music related course in college which will help get you noticed? I know so many people who've dropped out of school to pursue their 'music' or 'fashion designing' or even just because 'it was a rough school and they weren't bothered switching school' and all they do is sit at home on the internet all day and it really infuriates me when they do have so much potential but they're just wasting it!:(

But either way, follow your heart and what you feel is right. Don't let anyone force you into decisions that you're not 100% set on and honestly good luck with your music, Dublin needs some new material on the scene.

FueledByAisling

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

if I study music at college do I have to do other subjects or ''Irish'')

Some colleges ask for Irish some don't (like Trinity) but if you go to the Institute and intend to go to Trinity then you don't have to do Irish. Also if you're dyslexic you can drop Irish and take up another non language subject.

Led Zeppelin The Clash

FueledByAisling wrote: »

Some colleges ask for Irish some don't (like Trinity) but if you go to the Institute and intend to go to Trinity then you don't have to do Irish. Also if you're dyslexic you can drop Irish and take up another non language subject.

Do you(Are anybody else for that matter)have any recomendations of good music colleges in this country.

Keith in cork

hey, no you dont have to complete 5th year. In 2005 i left after the J.C. i did about 2 months of fifth year and then left my parents and I just had to sign a form in the school. Look you said your mind wont be changed and thats fair enough but what do you plan on doing??? I left and did an apprenticeship but you wont get that now because employers cant garantee you the work. Plus you want out of school now as I did 6 years ago but what you dont get is how much your gonna miss! All Im saying is there is no work in ireland and internationally the world is a nasty place with no quals, so if i had my time again then Id tell you stay in school, have fun, get the leaving cert and most of all BE YOUNG! theres plenty of time to grow up.

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As far as I know you can leave on your 16th birthday as long as you have completed the Junior Cert, but there are restrictions on working hours until 18.

Also in the current jobs market in Ireland you will be competing with many people that have 3rd level qualifications.

Would you nit think of doing something like the applied LC instead. You should at least complete second level to increase your job prospects.

First of all, Have a look at these two posts. Post one has all of the information, but it hurt my head to read.

Post 2, is how a post should be laid out.

For me, Its schooling where you get these skills. They mean little on the internet, but i think it speaks volumes.

NathanOR

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Do you(Are anybody else for that matter)have any recomendations of good music colleges in this country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...hools_of_music

Here is the main schools of music around the world.. Im sure you'll find one that will suit you!

Do your LC.... Because its seriously worth having... And in my book its worth fighting for too...

UrbanSea

Led Zeppelin The Clash wrote: »

Do you(Are anybody else for that matter)have any recomendations of good music colleges in this country.

Enquire about BIMM. It's a part of DIT now. I need a leaving cert for it,but get into contact with them,it's meant to be fantastic.

Contact details on their website.
http://www.bimm.co.uk/dublin/