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Can't install flexi lining for new stove

  • 25-10-2011 9:49pm
    #1
    Mad Benny
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    Our stove provider called a few weeks ago to survey our house and chimney.

    He recommended a stove based on the size of the room and said the chimney looked fine.

    When they came to install they couldn't get the chimney liner all the way down. It's flexible but got stuck. They apparently tried shoving it up the chimney too but it didn't work. I didn't witness this.

    I understand that the chimney is eight inches wide and the lining is six.

    Is it possible to get someone to use a camera to find out the problem?

    They said that the stove will most like be fine with an adapter. We will be burning wood most of the time but would like to burn coal on very cold winter nights.


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  • #2
    Stove Fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    Mad Benny wrote: »
    Our stove provider called a few weeks ago to survey our house and chimney.

    He recommended a stove based on the size of the room and said the chimney looked fine.

    When they came to install they couldn't get the chimney liner all the way down. It's flexible but got stuck. They apparently tried shoving it up the chimney too but it didn't work. I didn't witness this.

    I understand that the chimney is eight inches wide and the lining is six.

    Is it possible to get someone to use a camera to find out the problem?

    They said that the stove will most like be fine with an adapter. We will be burning wood most of the time but would like to burn coal on very cold winter nights.

    Is it a clay lined chimney? It really depends on how well the clay liners were fitted and if the mortar that squeezed out when joining the liners together was removed on the inside. If there are bends in the flue a twisting motion may work as the liner is being lowered down the chimney while someone else pulls it down from below. But if the bends are severe it may not go down.
    If the stove outlet is 5 inch fit a 5 inch liner but sweep it more than the 6 inch. The liner is the better job.

    Stove Fan:)


  • #3
    heinbloed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭heinbloed


    Is it possible to get someone to use a camera to find out the problem?

    Yes.

    If a liner was to be installed it MUST be installed. The amateurs should not connect a stove in this situation.
    If lining and stove installation are part of the same contract get someone else in.


  • #4
    Mad Benny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Mad Benny


    I got another chimney guy out for a second opinion. He used a camera. Apparently there are some "splays" in the chimney at the top and bottom which are obstructing the chimney.

    They said the clay liner was in good condition but some gaps could be seen in the clay lining near the top. Since these would have been present since installation over 50 years ago the chimney guy suggested that they are probably sealed.

    He suggested an alterative to flexi steel lining called Furnaflex. It's put into the chimney and then inflated to take the shape of the chimney. It hardends once steam is applied and is as hard as the steel alternative with 25 year warranty.

    I am going to get a price for it. Anybody heard of it?

    http://actionchimneys.ie/about/default.html


  • #5
    Mad Benny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Mad Benny


    Stove Fan wrote: »
    Is it a clay lined chimney? It really depends on how well the clay liners were fitted and if the mortar that squeezed out when joining the liners together was removed on the inside.

    Sorry, missed this question. It is clay lined. There was no mention of morter left behind on inside.

    I spoke to a chap today and he said if it's clay lined and there has been no smoke inside from a normal fire then it's fine. He has a stove himself and worked in the ESB for years.

    We have been using this chimney with an open fire very regularly for the past 12 years without any problems at all.


  • #6
    celtboy1888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭celtboy1888


    hope you got sorted, if not i carry out cctv inspections on a daily basis, if i can be of help.


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  • #7
    famlitsku
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    Hi, We are looking at getting 2 Morso Squirrel stoves installed: 1 in an existing fireplace and 1 replacing a different free-standing stove. The fireplace has a 2 storey chimney that needs to be lined and the quote we have for installing that one is 1200 euro. The freestanding one just needs to be connected to a flue that is 6 feet off the ground.= and the quote to install it is 650 euro. Both are just to heat the rooms so no plumbing required. Are those exorbitant figures??
    Thanks


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