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How are wounded wild animals dealt with?

  • 23-10-2011 7:01am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭


    If a wild animal crosses the road and is hit by a car. Lets say a deer in this instance.

    It is in pain lying on the the road.

    Is the animal despatched and by who?

    It does happen here with Kangaroos etc and they are shot by police if in pain/near death.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Generally a vet is called and paid for by the state. But there is no proper system, legislation or organisation in this country for dealing with animals, either wild or domestic. I think it's a crazy situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    I thought Garda Station were issued with Humane Killers for these situations - they used to at any rate ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    I'd trust a vet rather then the local plod to humanly kill a wounded animal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭moose112


    A priest :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    MagicSean wrote: »
    Generally a vet is called and paid for by the state. But there is no proper system, legislation or organisation in this country for dealing with animals, either wild or domestic. I think it's a crazy situation.

    It is a crazy situation, I witnessed a dog getting knocked down by a driver who I previously seem on her mobile phone. This is at 11pm at night, your just stood there like a moron. Absolutely nothing you can do, my mate said to call the Garda, but I didn't think there was a point. They can't do much either, so your left to your own devices to find help for the animal.

    You think that the pound would operate a 24 hour service to get a vet out and either stabilize the animal or put it too sleep.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    The whole idea is that the animal doesn't suffer needlessly. Granted it's a lot easier to help a fataly injured cat or rabbit or duck or whatever other small animal on it's way than it is to do the same with a cow or deer or horse or the like. It also wouldn't be the first time that a motorist or biker comes of the worst from a collission with the likes of a cow either.....

    Just a on a side note; the likes of dogs and farm animals should be kept under control at all times so the owner could be faced with serious liability issues if a wandering animal caused a crash. Also worth remembering is that collissions with animals that are classed as property ( that includes horses, cattle, sheep, dogs, etc etc ) should be reported. If the owner of the animal can't be located straight away you should call into the local Garda or PSNI ( as soon as possible ) station depending on where you are in report the accident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    If you knock down a dog/cat animal of any sorts you are legally oblidged by law to report it to the gardai. If you take avoiding action for an animal you could be charged if you are involved in an accident. That's ok if it's a dog or cat but if it's a horse or cattle I don't know what the situtation would be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭time lord


    Local authorities carry out a huge ammount of this work.
    This poor chap was handed to me the other day, eye hanging out, partially scalped to the scull and numerous puncture wounds to the face and ear.
    He was "put to sleep" within 8 mins of me getting me.
    http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9410/23530830.jpg
    The cause of his condition was unknown but with I would guess and its not a novices guess that he was set against badgers. He still only had milk teeth too so was very young. His head was torn apart and he was left stunned and dazed on edge of large farm in rural area. They wouldn't even put a bullet in him to stop any suffering.:mad:

    I will refrain from posting the other pics as they would make you heave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    time lord wrote: »
    Local authorities carry out a huge ammount of this work.
    This poor chap was handed to me the other day, eye hanging out, partially scalped to the scull and numerous puncture wounds to the face and ear.
    He was "put to sleep" within 8 mins of me getting me.
    http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9410/23530830.jpg
    The cause of his condition was unknown but with I would guess and its not a novices guess that he was set against badgers. He still only had milk teeth too so was very young. His head was torn apart and he was left stunned and dazed on edge of large farm in rural area. They wouldn't even put a bullet in him to stop any suffering.:mad:

    I will refrain from posting the other pics as they would make you heave.

    Stories like that make me so angry , I believe that scum capable of doing that to an animal are equally capable of doing that to a human :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    I reckon you should put a warning on that one for Dog lovers.

    Domestic animals like Dogs are a hard call. If an owner turned up later its hard to convince them you had to kill rover as he was beyond saving. I know its my call if any of my animals are put to sleep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    time lord wrote: »
    Local authorities carry out a huge ammount of this work.
    This poor chap was handed to me the other day, eye hanging out, partially scalped to the scull and numerous puncture wounds to the face and ear.
    He was "put to sleep" within 8 mins of me getting me.
    http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9410/23530830.jpg
    The cause of his condition was unknown but with I would guess and its not a novices guess that he was set against badgers. He still only had milk teeth too so was very young. His head was torn apart and he was left stunned and dazed on edge of large farm in rural area. They wouldn't even put a bullet in him to stop any suffering.:mad:

    I will refrain from posting the other pics as they would make you heave.

    The poor little thing he looks so young even looks like he still has his puppy coat. Jesus, that would make you cry. Doing that too a poor puppy :( . I just got a new puppy, and I feel bad telling him off. These people must have no morals at all. If I seen that act been committed in front of me, jesus I don't know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭scholar007


    Delancey wrote: »
    I thought Garda Station were issued with Humane Killers for these situations - they used to at any rate ?

    their size 14s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    time lord wrote: »
    This poor chap...
    Ah for fuck sake. :( Fucking scum. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭audidiesel


    Delancey wrote: »
    I thought Garda Station were issued with Humane Killers for these situations - they used to at any rate ?

    not any more, they are gone with a long time.

    we get a few cases like this with horses on the roads here. all we can do really is try and get a vet out.

    if its at 3am on a wednesday night and a vet cant be found, the closest we'd have would be a sledgehammer. I dont think anyone would like to take that to an injured horse for obvious reasons. Also i wouldnt be sure if we'd have the legal right to do so in any case. so i'd imagine you would just have to wait till you could eventually get a vet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    If there was a Armed response unit available can they despatch the animal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭audidiesel


    Zambia wrote: »
    If there was a Armed response unit available can they despatch the animal?

    no armed units would not be authorised to dispatch the animal using firearms.

    its a guaranteed way to loose your gun card and probably face an investigation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭scholar007


    audidiesel wrote: »
    no armed units would not be authorised to dispatch the animal using firearms.

    its a guaranteed way to loose your gun card and probably face an investigation.

    Could they not say that the uzi / glock went off by accident and hit the poor injured horse in the head?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Thats even worse to explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I know you are not supposed to swerve to avoid an animal but its not easy to drive over something unless someone is a complete sadist with no feelings at all. I remember years ago travelling to a nightclub with a guy and he intentionally drove over a cat. Some people are scum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    In my experience there is nothing done by NPWS or the Council.
    I came upon a young sika hind on the road with a badly broken leg.
    When I rang the ranger she said: Oh dear poor thing.
    That was it.
    I'm not in the habit of leaving animals to die in pain or possibly cause an accident by wandering onto the road and so I went back and used a knife to dispatch the animal by bleeding the animal out through the chest.
    Being a hind and not able to move very well allowed me to get close enough to do that, if it were a stag then I would have had to reconsider.
    If I had my rifle with me I would ask the gardai if they wanted me to dispatch the animal and If they could stand by while I did so.
    Its illegal to fire a shot from a public road here so I guess the decision would have to be made about motorists safety vs firing a shot on a public road.
    But no right minded garda would like to explain a road traffic accident caused by an animal that could have been dispatched and the incident avoided.
    The problem is budget. Do the emergency services have a budget to call a vet? Will a vet do it for free and possibly miss a half days work?


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