Phsychological plants by RTE and Media on Presidential election

Onesimus

I'm just watching the media and they keep saying things like Sean Gallagher looks to be in the lead an so on and is likely to take the prize. In other words people with the herd mentality will just vote for him because he is the most popular, and it sounds like a clever plant by the boys up there in the media.

I dont trust this country at ALL.

Onesimus

Pierce_1991

Gallagher in the lead you say?

Onesimus

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Gallagher in the lead you say?

No they say. I dont think any kind of ''statistics'' should be released at all showing peoples progress before the voting day begins, because it plants in the minds of others ( with the herd mentality ) to vote for the person most popular and in the lead ''according to the experts in statistics''.

Irelands a sham.....end of.

zuroph

herd mentalist.

iPlop

Gallagher, smarthomes, Fiánna Fáil, the boom etc.....Do we really trust this Bertie 2.0

im invisible

shur none of the rest have a chance...

zuroph

you're right, why vote for a no hoper, so we're all agreed then, Sean Gallagher for the vote??

humbert

Disappointing thread. I thought RTE were growing phsychological plants like the thing in Little Shop of Horrors.

Harry Angstrom

Onesimus wrote: »

I'm just watching the media and they keep saying things like Sean Gallagher looks to be in the lead an so on and is likely to take the prize. In other words people with the herd mentality will just vote for him because he is the most popular, and it sounds like a clever plant by the boys up there in the media.

I dont trust this country at ALL.

Onesimus

But, going by your theory, Michael D Higgins should still be topping the opinion polls because he's pretty much been leading them all along.

To be honest, I think Gallagher topping the poll highlights the dearth of talent among the presidential hopefuls. Michael D Higgins' campaign has been completely underwhelming. He seemed to think that if he kept his mouth shut, he'd sail into the Aras. Even though I despise FF, I'm glad to see the smug look wiped off Michael D's face.

charlemont

Onesimus wrote: »

I'm just watching the media and they keep saying things like Sean Gallagher looks to be in the lead an so on and is likely to take the prize. In other words people with the herd mentality will just vote for him because he is the most popular, and it sounds like a clever plant by the boys up there in the media.

I dont trust this country at ALL.

Onesimus

Good man, Nothing would surprise me about the stupidity of people here, They will fall for this hook, line and sinker..

itac

If there's any sort of mindgames going on, I'd say it's to try and make us forget we're also voting on other things that day....

p.s. Slightly OT- but I had to log in just to thank this...:D

humbert wrote: »

Disappointing thread. I thought RTE were growing phsychological plants like the thing in Little Shop of Horrors.

Dotrel

Hold on a second there. Are you implying that RTE are somehow biased in favour of Fianna Fail?

Why I never! :mad:

PomBear

zuroph wrote: »

you're right, why vote for a no hoper, so we're all agreed then, Sean Gallagher for the vote??

clear example of how Irish people understand PRSTV

tonycascarino

Onesimus wrote: »

I'm just watching the media and they keep saying things like Sean Gallagher looks to be in the lead an so on and is likely to take the prize. In other words people with the herd mentality will just vote for him because he is the most popular, and it sounds like a clever plant by the boys up there in the media.

I dont trust this country at ALL.

Onesimus

Same thing they did for the Lisbon Treaty. Vote Yes propaganda everywhere and many sheep went along with it. Very few people with a mind of their own these days.

zuroph

Sean Gallagher it is.

zuroph

tonycascarino wrote: »

Same thing they did for the Lisbon Treaty. Vote Yes propaganda everywhere and many sheep went along with it.

or, you know, the no vote propoganda that swung the first one.

Jesus christ people, toys back in the pram, surveys happen in all elections all over the world, I don't get the love for Gallagher either, but the whole campaign has been a farce by every applicant. If anything, the "sway" towards gallagher and McGuinness will help Higgins home as people vote not out of preference, but to block either of the former from getting the office.

iPlop

I vote for smart homes, and the boom.

Wertz

...said it during the Lisbon ref and I'm saying it again now...the polls are used to manipulate the results...yeah yeah take it to CT's or whatever, but it's really quite obvious psychology.

I'm resigned the to stupidity and fickleness of the Irish electorate by now...lead by the nose into the polling booth.

To be fair Gallagher is making all the right noises to the demographic that will vote in this: the unemployed or de-waged middle classes...talk sh*te about business (even though your own relied on state grants and ultimately didn't succeed) and entrepeneurial spirit...and use your familiarity through a popular TV show...oh and make sure to de-couple from the poisonous party before the GE...told of the writing on the wall by your FF stablemate and nextdoor neighbour Dermot Ahern, who had the prescience to simply retire rather than contest the seat.

If we as a nation collectively fall for this and the polling manipulation then we deserve all we get.

The referendum polls are even more disturbing. If that goes as it says it will then we realy are headed down the tubes as a democracy.

DublinWriter

By now, your TV licence is still value for money?

(double NLP kill!!)

iPlop

Wertz wrote: »

said it during the kisboin ref and I'm saying it again now...the polls are used to manipulate the results...yeah yeah take it to CT's or whatever, but it's really quite obvious psychology.

I'm resigned the to stupidity and fickleness of the Irish electorate by now...lead by the nose into the polling booth.

To be fair Gallagher is making all the right noises to the demographic that will vote in this: the unemployed or de-waged middle classes...talk sh*te about business (even though your own relied on state grants and ultimately didn't succeed) and entrepeneurial spirit...and use your familiarity through a popular TV show...oh and make sure to de-couple from the poisonous party before the GE...told of the writing on the wall by your FF stablemate and nextdoor neighbour Dermot Ahern.

If we as a nation collectively fall for this and the polling manipulation then we deserve all we get.

The referendum polls are even more disturbing. If that goes as it says it will then we realy are headed down the tubes as a democracy.

All bollocks to get himself in, he's a Galway tent person, an asshole that provided €400k "smart" homes to people getting 100% mortgages, and he fúcking profited outrageously, the builders that built "smart homes" built them for 65K and sold them for between €440K > €770k


Example:http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32821

Onesimus

Glad to see some agree that the whole voting scheme here in Ireland ( and if it happens globally ) is a scam. As previous poster says he doesnt see whats wrong with it as it happens globally ( again a clear case of the herd mentality ). Smoking is legal globally but it doesnt make it a good choice for the lungs does it?

This voting system makes me sick and realise that we are no different than a communist/dictator country where everything is fixed ableit in an obvious way or sneaky get into your subconcious one.

There should be protests against that kind of manipulation happening in the media and allowing people to make their own minds up with regards to each candidates strengths and weaknesses.

Onesimus

My name is URL

Onesimus wrote: »

There should be protests against that kind of manipulation happening in the media and allowing people to make their own minds up with regards to each candidates strengths and weaknesses.

Obviously you are 'making up your own mind' on the matter, so what makes you think that others are so small minded that they can be easily manipulated by the media?

Would it be fair of me to assume that the candidate you want to win is not performing well? If they were out in front right now, would you still put it down to manipulation by the media?

Onesimus

My name is URL wrote: »

Obviously you are 'making up your own mind' on the matter, so what makes you think that others are so small minded that they can be easily manipulated by the media?

Would it be fair of me to assume that the candidate you want to win is not performing well? If they were out in front right now, would you still put it down to manipulation by the media?

No I fell victim for it until I gave it some hard thought. I'm just as small minded as anyone else. But if I cant change my mind about it and be one to admit I was small minded and have it figured, how can I help anyone else change their minds also if I just shut up and keep quiet about it?

I have to voice my opinion about it, and if people feel I'm calling them small minded ( which I'm not ) then thats their responsability not mine because thats not my motive.

I have still not made my mind up about any candidate yet either but I can do without the Media trying to influence my decision as well as others thank you very much.

iPlop

My name is URL wrote: »

Obviously you are 'making up your own mind' on the matter, so what makes you think that others are so small minded that they can be easily manipulated by the media?

Gallagher is the Fianna Fáil candidate for the election, how people have dismissed this is beyond belief. The guy was part of the "boom" and was involved in the "Galway tent orgy" that happened during the good times, "smart homes" are falling apart in the estate accross from me, full of pyrite, he got a percentage.


What is it with people that Fianna Fáil say they are not running a candidate and Sean Gallgher appears out of the blue.

It's a bit like Mcguinness bieng Independent, He's really running for Sinn Féin

Onesimus

Sink The Banana wrote: »

Gallagher is the Fianna Fáil candidate for the election, how people have dismissed this is beyond belief. The guy was part of the "boom" and was involved in the "Galway tent orgy" that happened during the good times, "smart homes" are falling apart in the estate accross from me, full of pyrite, he got a percentage.


What is it with people that Fianna Fáil say they are not running a candidate and Sean Gallgher appears out of the blue.

It's a bit like Mcguinness bieng Independent, He's really running for Sinn Féin

Well said.

Einhard

tonycascarino wrote: »

Very few people with a mind of their own these days.

Except yourself and the people who share your views obviously. :rolleyes:

Onesimus wrote: »

Glad to see some agree that the whole voting scheme here in Ireland ( and if it happens globally ) is a scam. As previous poster says he doesnt see whats wrong with it as it happens globally ( again a clear case of the herd mentality ). Smoking is legal globally but it doesnt make it a good choice for the lungs does it?

Are you suggesting that our votes aren't counted? That the ballots are discounted, and some secretive committee decides who'll become president, or who heads a government, and then imposes it on the rest of us? If not, then I fail to see how the one voter/one vote system we have can be called a scam.

This voting system makes me sick and realise that we are no different than a communist/dictator country where everything is fixed ableit in an obvious way or sneaky get into your subconcious one.

Are you for real? You're equating a democratic electoral process with the kind of regime Gadaffi ran in Libya til recently, or the current regume in China?

There should be protests against that kind of manipulation happening in the media and allowing people to make their own minds up with regards to each candidates strengths and weaknesses.

Up to a few weeks ago, Higgins was in the lead in the polls. Now Gallagher is. Are you suggesting that RTE and all the other media conspirators suddenly changed their mind, got together in some smoky backroom, and decided to plump for Gallagher instead?

Kevin Duffy

Oh Lisa, there's no such thing as subliminal advertising, that's just a load of rich creamery butter.

Adamantium

as george carlin said not an exact quote:

"You don't have choice in who you vote for, you only have the illusion of choice"

"Pepsi or Cola?, thats it"

Agricola

Adamantium wrote: »

as george carlin said not an exact quote:

"You don't have choice in who you vote for, you only have the illusion of choice"

"Pepsi or Cola?, thats it"

Wise man, that Carlin.

Onesimus

Einhard wrote: »

Except yourself and the people who share your views obviously. :rolleyes:



Are you suggesting that our votes aren't counted? That the ballots are discounted, and some secretive committee decides who'll become president, or who heads a government, and then imposes it on the rest of us? If not, then I fail to see how the one voter/one vote system we have can be called a scam.



Are you for real? You're equating a democratic electoral process with the kind of regime Gadaffi ran in Libya til recently, or the current regume in China?




Up to a few weeks ago, Higgins was in the lead in the polls. Now Gallagher is. Are you suggesting that RTE and all the other media conspirators suddenly changed their mind, got together in some smoky backroom, and decided to plump for Gallagher instead?

No you obviously have not read the thread in it's entirety I agree with that what I'm talking about is the medias influence on the peoples vote. Read the thread in it's entirety and then get back to me.

knird evol

I'm confident I'll be able to pick the winner.

Onesismus looks like you're going to vote for a loser. They're a loser, you're a loser. You're going to get your vote wrong and screw up and pick a loser. What were you thinking?

trixyben

I cant understand for the life of me why the people of this country would even think of supporting a fianna fail campaigner to become president.....

It is this party that has 400,000+ on the dole cue, tens of thousands emigrating, people up to their neck in debt and brand new empty houses everywhere, on top of that there is a the matter of a bailout to the tune of 85 billion which most of all went to bail out THE BANKS not a cent to help the people struggling in this country!!!!!

So tell me again why is Gallagher so popular or am i missing something here?????

SEPT 23 1989

trixyben wrote: »

I cant understand for the life of me why the people of this country would even think of supporting a fianna fail campaigner to become president.....

It is this party that has 400,000+ on the dole cue, tens of thousands emigrating, people up to their neck in debt and brand new empty houses everywhere, on top of that there is a the matter of a bailout to the tune of 85 billion which most of all went to bail out THE BANKS not a cent to help the people struggling in this country!!!!!

So tell me again why is Gallagher so popular or am i missing something here?????

Its completely off the wall

Wertz

trixyben wrote: »

So tell me again why is Gallagher so popular or am i missing something here?????

Cos he's a young guy that was on da telly...and he's said he's the president for jobs...oh and because he and his wife are going to have a baby in the Aras (sure everyone loves a baby or talk of) and quite seriously, because there are still a lot of people out there who will vote for FF, regardless.
Oh and because he's RTÉ's man.

Combination of all the above I reckon and because there was concerted efforts to smear Norris and McGuinness (not that it needed much concerting)...
Now that you have him ahead in a few opinion polls, the Man United effect takes over, where others jump on the supporter bandwagon cos he looks like a winner, without being in possession of the facts of why he is or isn't good presedential material (many Irish don't seem to know exactly what our president's role really is either)...

foxyboxer

It's like a post with a lot of thanks on Boards.
You see all the thanks and are more than likely to thank it too.

Jesus Wept

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Michael D Higgins' campaign has been completely underwhelming. He seemed to think that if he kept his mouth shut, he'd sail into the Aras. Even though I despise FF, I'm glad to see the smug look wiped off Michael D's face.

By kept his mouth shut, you mean he hasn't run a negative campaign, amirite?
There isn't much point to running a negative campaign, it wouldn't work well.

Wertz wrote: »

Cos he's a young guy that was on da telly

He's 49. We should be electing Jedward, they are only 40.

fun tree is cooked

I'm leaving if that Fianna Fail Puppet gets elected ....Seriously have we not learned anything about FF cronyism and the Boys club -you only have yourselves to blame if this self serving moron gets in -I would endear the more discerning voter to vote for anyone but this guy(excluding of course Dana Rosemary Scallion) -as for Herds -they usually end up getting slaughtered ...

Wertz

The-Rigger wrote: »

He's 49. We should be electing Jedward, they are only 40.

They probably make more than him a year too (for now) and their product is still in demand...