What to buy??

shaunie007

Well, it seems that my 99 1.4 golf is gonna cost in excess of €1200 to pass the nct, so im coming to the conclusion that its time to invest.

Iv a budget of 4k ish and im looking for a passat, avensis or maybe a superb..

Now, i only got this news yesterday so iv done a minimal amount of searching myself, im just wonderg if people out there have one of the above vehicles, and if so, would they recommend them.

Iv seen a number of superbs amd avensis' on donedeal in the north, but im a bit concerned about clocking etc...

Cheers folks, any advice is very much appreciated..

bazz26

Need a bit more information, what size engine are you looking at, petrol or diesel?

€4k will get you alot of Mazda 6 and Ford Mondeo for your money, these however are 1.8 litre or above whereas a Passat or Avensis would be start with 1.6 litre.

A few examples:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201132203891758
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201139204679430
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201135204159398
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201139204732609

Thought this looks tempting too:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201141204992022

Nissan doctor

Isn't €1200 alot less then €4000 though?

bazz26

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Isn't €1200 alot less then €4000 though?

Yes in the grand scheme of things but putting €1200 into an almost 13 year old car that probably has a market value of €1500 doesn't seem to make sense imo.

Nissan doctor

bazz26 wrote: »

Yes in the grand scheme of things but putting €1200 into an almost 12 year old car that probably has a market value of €1500 doesn't seem to make sense imo.

I would see the value of the car as irrelivant, the op is still talking about spending 4k to pass/avoid the nct as opposed to 1200 to pass it.

Now if they want a new car then thats fine, but the above logic doesn't make sence imo.

shaunie007

bazz26 wrote: »

Yes in the grand scheme of things but putting €1200 into an almost 13 year old car that probably has a market value of €1500 doesn't seem to make sense imo.

Thats what I was thinking to be honest. I'd prefer a 1.9 diesel in all of the above.

Anything around 80,000 miles, I know that's a bit optimistic.

I don't have a preference with regards to any of the above, simply the best car for the money.

bazz26

shaunie007 wrote: »

Thats what I was thinking to be honest. I'd prefer a 1.9 diesel in all of the above.

Anything around 80,000 miles, I know that's a bit optimistic.

I don't have a preference with regards to any of the above, simply the best car for the money.

Why are you looking at diesels? Are you doing alot of miles or is because the current trend is buy a diesel? The reason I ask is that diesels even rough ones are going for silly money these days epescially anything from VAG. €4k will get you alot of petrol car at the moment as the Irish have diesel on the brain. €4k will probably buy you an 8 or 9 year old diesel car that could be a money pit, also they are designed to be driven so I would question the validity of the mileage on a 8/9 year old diesel with less than 100k miles on it. I would assume anything with only 80k miles on it to be clocked unless there is hard evidence via the service history to prove otherwise.

shaunie007

bazz26 wrote: »

shaunie007 wrote: »

Thats what I was thinking to be honest. I'd prefer a 1.9 diesel in all of the above.

Anything around 80,000 miles, I know that's a bit optimistic.

I don't have a preference with regards to any of the above, simply the best car for the money.

Why are you looking at diesels? Are you doing alot of miles or is because the current trend is buy a diesel? The reason I ask is that diesels even rough ones are going for silly money these days epescially anything from VAG. €4k will get you alot of petrol car at the moment as the Irish have diesel on the brain. €4k will probably buy you an 8 or 9 year old diesel car that could be a money pit, also they are designed to be driven so I would question the validity of the mileage on a 8/9 year old diesel with less than 100k miles on it. I would assume anything with only 80k miles on it to be clocked unless there is hard evidence via the service history to prove otherwise.

No real reason to br honest. i just want something solid that i can drive for the next 4-5 years without having to worry too much.

I wouldnt be opposed to a 1.6 petrol avensis by any means; but the idea of getting a 1.8 petrol doesn't apeal to me, maybe due to my lack of in-depth knowledge on the subject, but i'd see a large petrol car as a bit of a guzzler, especially on longer journeys.

johndaman66

shaunie007 wrote: »

I wouldnt be opposed to a 1.6 petrol avensis by any means; but the idea of getting a 1.8 petrol doesn't apeal to me, maybe due to my lack of in-depth knowledge on the subject, but i'd see a large petrol car as a bit of a guzzler, especially on longer journeys.

If any you might be inclined to find the larger engined car to be that bit heavier on juice on the shorter journies when compared to a smaller engined car. It depends really...its not an exact science. Depends not only on the specific engine but the body its mated to etc. Blanket statement does not cover all. I'd be inclined to advise against a 1.6 Avensis if you are looking at the 2003 onwards model. Drove one once and it felt particularly sluggish and weedy. Can't say I know too much about their fuel consumption but that relatively small 1.6 engine is hawling a large heavy car (when compared to engine displacement)...so its unlikely to be very frugal.

If it were myself and I had €4k to spend I certainly wouldn't rule out a 1.8 litre Mondeo. You do get a lot of car for your money and they are perhaps somewhat under-rated when compared to the likes of a Passat or Audi...all good for a buyer. Comfortable, not bad handling, smooth, adequate performance for most and no less reliable than the likes of a Passat or Audi A4

bazz26

shaunie007 wrote: »

No real reason to br honest. i just want something solid that i can drive for the next 4-5 years without having to worry too much.

I wouldnt be opposed to a 1.6 petrol avensis by any means; but the idea of getting a 1.8 petrol doesn't apeal to me, maybe due to my lack of in-depth knowledge on the subject, but i'd see a large petrol car as a bit of a guzzler, especially on longer journeys.

This is a common misconception. A 1.8 Avensis is as economical as a 1.6 Avensis because the 1.8 is under less stress to push the car around than the 1.6 so it uses less fuel. A 1.6 litre engine was thrown into the Avensis for the Irish market because of the arcade motor tax system here, it was not sold in any other EU country including the UK.

shaunie007

bazz26 wrote: »

This is a common misconception. A 1.8 Avensis is as economical as a 1.6 Avensis because the 1.8 is under less stress to push the car around than the 1.6 so it uses less fuel. A 1.6 litre engine was thrown into the Avensis for the Irish market because of the arcade motor tax system here, it was not sold in any other EU country including the UK.

Good point.

Still looking at the min, but ye've defo opened my mind..

Cheers folks

shaunie007

I'm after finding two mondeo st replica's in my part of the world.
what do ye think:
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2692635

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2648556
This one has 163,000 miles; huge i know, but it seems to have been extremely well maintained. he said he'd do it for 2,700 cash, with three months tax just on.

Do these fords really last?

Brian?

shaunie007 wrote: »

bazz26 wrote: »

shaunie007 wrote: »

Thats what I was thinking to be honest. I'd prefer a 1.9 diesel in all of the above.

Anything around 80,000 miles, I know that's a bit optimistic.

I don't have a preference with regards to any of the above, simply the best car for the money.

Why are you looking at diesels? Are you doing alot of miles or is because the current trend is buy a diesel? The reason I ask is that diesels even rough ones are going for silly money these days epescially anything from VAG. €4k will get you alot of petrol car at the moment as the Irish have diesel on the brain. €4k will probably buy you an 8 or 9 year old diesel car that could be a money pit, also they are designed to be driven so I would question the validity of the mileage on a 8/9 year old diesel with less than 100k miles on it. I would assume anything with only 80k miles on it to be clocked unless there is hard evidence via the service history to prove otherwise.

No real reason to br honest. i just want something solid that i can drive for the next 4-5 years without having to worry too much.

I wouldnt be opposed to a 1.6 petrol avensis by any means; but the idea of getting a 1.8 petrol doesn't apeal to me, maybe due to my lack of in-depth knowledge on the subject, but i'd see a large petrol car as a bit of a guzzler, especially on longer journeys.

A 1.8 is not "big engine". Believe it or not your 1.4 golf only gets 2mpg more than my 1.8T golf gti and that's with a turbo in the mix.

4k will get you a very nice 05-06 Peugeot 407 1.7 petrol. Plenty of kit, decent reliability,lovely cars to drive on a motorway

Carson10

heres a very tasty golf:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2694962

id say the price could drop...

Vdub only job

shaunie007

Carson10 wrote: »

heres a very tasty golf:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2694962

id say the price could drop...

Vdub only job

Nice..

I've talked to this guy a few times:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2693737

He seems genuine, I like the look of the car..

I was hoping to get it for 3.5k, I think thats good..

johnos1984

shaunie007 wrote: »

Nice..

I've talked to this guy a few times:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2693737

He seems genuine, I like the look of the car..

I was hoping to get it for 3.5k, I think thats good..

I'd be pretty surprised if the mileage is genuine (not suggesting the owner has clocked it)

It looks like a UK car and there seems to be a lack of service history mentioned in the ad

bazz26

shaunie007 wrote: »

I'm after finding two mondeo st replica's in my part of the world.
what do ye think:
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2692635

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2648556
This one has 163,000 miles; huge i know, but it seems to have been extremely well maintained. he said he'd do it for 2,700 cash, with three months tax just on.

Do these fords really last?

Are both those guys on drugs or what, asking those sort of prices for a 10 year old Mondeo noisy TDDi with a body kit.