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Legal responsibility to lower pipes?

  • 22-10-2011 8:01am
    #1
    Themadhouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭


    The pipes connect to the mains outside my house are only 12 inches under ground. They freeze for weeks every winter once temp drops to minus 6. We have been in limbo with builder out of business but now the council have taken over the estate. I spoke to someone in the council who said the bond money has basically been spent on the legal fees to get control of the estate and there are no plans to sort out the pipes.
    Legally is it their responsibilty? Or are we going to stay in limbo and have no water again this winter?
    Can anyone offer advice?


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  • #2
    User Friendly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭User Friendly


    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tools/2617606
    what do you think?


  • #3
    Themadhouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    User Friendly wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tools/2617606
    what do you think?
    I'm thinking we shouldnt had to spend money on the pipes as the engineers in the council didn't check the depth originally? Right or wrong? Have no idea of who is obliged to fix this.


  • #4
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Themadhouse wrote: »
    Legally is it their responsibilty?

    Do you pay anyone for water supply ?

    In any event no.

    Why on earth would it be as a matter of interest ?


  • #5
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Themadhouse wrote: »
    I'm thinking we shouldnt had to spend money on the pipes as the engineers in the council didn't check the depth originally? Right or wrong? Have no idea of who is obliged to fix this.

    Wrong - YOU didn't check the depth of the pipes before YOU bought the house.

    No one is obliged to fix it - fix it yourself.


  • #6
    Themadhouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    Wow lads, just trying to find out what the story is as the pipes are outside the boundries of my property and a council guy told me two yrs ago that those particular pipes are their responsibility even tho the estate hadn't been taken over by them. Yeah so, thanks anyway....


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  • #7
    Themadhouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    Themadhouse wrote: »
    Legally is it their responsibilty?

    Do you pay anyone for water supply ?

    In any event no.

    Why on earth would it be as a matter of interest ?

    Not paying for water supply yet.

    As they effectively own the estate and the pipes are under the foot path and the pipes are their responsibility i just wanted to know if they are obliged to place them to legal depth. That's all.


  • #8
    Reloc8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    Themadhouse wrote: »
    Wow lads, just trying to find out what the story is as the pipes are outside the boundries of my property and a council guy told me two yrs ago that those particular pipes are their responsibility even tho the estate hadn't been taken over by them. Yeah so, thanks anyway....

    Ah - slightly different issue.

    If we're talking about the pipes that are outside your footprint, as opposed to the stuff under your ground, that's likely the Council's obligation to repair.

    Nothing you can do to force them really however.


  • #9
    Jagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    If we're talking about the pipes that are outside your footprint, as opposed to the stuff under your ground, that's likely the Council's obligation to repair.

    Nothing you can do to force them really however.

    why not tho, i mean if there is some law, or building code that requires pipes to be X deep, and the pipes arnt X deep, someone ****ed up, so either the guys who built it or those who own it should have to fix it.

    why doesnt this logical sense carry over to councils?


  • #10
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    User Friendly wrote: »
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tools/2617606
    what do you think?

    Not really suitable. the best solution is more depth of ground above pipe or insulating pipe.

    The council can't do anything on private property, but you might be able to rectify problems on thier property. That the bond is insufficient is their problem.


  • #11
    Themadhouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    We have a letter that was sent around in april of this yr stating that that the frozen pipes issue would be one of things dealt with once they took over and they had the bond. We also have an e mail from last yr stating that at the time our house was built (10 yrs ago) they were so bus and understaffed that the pipes were not checked by an engineer in the council but they were signed off on.
    If we have enough information and are within our rights will keep pushing them to do it but not knowing our rights we are just trying to find out where we stand.
    Thanks guys, all info is appreciated.


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