SU Elections: First Year Rep + Faculty Reps

NUIMRO

Nominations for all SU Executive positions are closed, candidates list to follow shortly. No nominations received for Postgraduate Rep.

Hustings will be held on Monday 7th November.

Election Day is Thursday 10th November.

Seren_

Does that mean there's not going to be a Postgrad Rep? I wanted to run, but thought no one would vote for me so I chickened out

More concerned about the lack of a rep though. Postgrads tend to be ignored enough in college as it is.

NUIMRO

I'm not completely certain, but I think it might be co-opted at Union Council.

LeixlipRed

Can the nomination process be re-opened? I'd know someone willing to run for that position.

Seren_

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Can the nomination process be re-opened? I'd know someone willing to run for that position.

Is it you?

LeixlipRed

Be nice to have someone from FEE involved but no, won't be me unless we couldn't find anyone at all to do it. Plus don't really know what the role entails, will have a read of the constitution.

eogriffin

Just wondering if anything has come of the confusion over the postgraduate rep position?

NUIMRO wrote: »

I'm not completely certain, but I think it might be co-opted at Union Council.

I know there has been similar situations in the past where people have stepped down and someone has been co-opted.

Duddy

Robert Dixon, last year's Postgrad Rep, was coopted by Union Council today.

LeixlipRed

Complete sham, not even remotely democratic. Bunch of undergrad reps voted for him.

Duddy

The issue of how non-filled positions are filled (Co-opted, by-election etc) has been referred to the (as of yet unelected) Constitutional Review Committee on my recommendation today, so that should this issue come up again, there'll be a defined plan in place. At current any non-sabbatical officer positions that are unfilled due to resignation are co-opted, but the constitution is silent in the case of positions left unfilled due to no nominations.

Rob is first interpreter of the Constitution and he nominated Robert, so I think we could reasonably assume that there was a constitutional interpretation performed there - however any President's decisions can be appealed to the Electoral & Appeals Committee of the Boards of Trustees, by sending a letter/email to their secretary.

Duddy

Candidates for SU Election, November 2011

First Year Representative


- Rayne Driscoll
- Eunice Figuera
- Claire Breathnach
- Ian Baker
- Leo Cauneen
- David Flanagan
- Dan Hillary
- Stuart Cameron
- Cynthia Okafor
- James Wall


Faculty of Arts, Philosophy and Celtic Studies Representative

- Lorna Deegan
- Rebecca Crunden

Faculty of Social Science Representative

- Ruta Emilija Lankelyte
- Oisin Nolan

Faculty of Science and Engineering Representative

- Mark Kelada
- Benstowe Nengi

tootyflutty

And so the campaigning begins.. *hates self already*





*Lorna for Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy*

/shameless plug

DB21

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Complete sham, not even remotely democratic. Bunch of undergrad reps voted for him.

However, if someone had got their finger out and went for nomination, there wouldn't be a situation like this. Democracy involves work, you know.

eogriffin

DB21 wrote: »

However, if someone had got their finger out and went for nomination, there wouldn't be a situation like this.

That's a fair enough point and one that is practically impossible to disagree with. However I would much prefer to see a situation where the nominations were reopened (VOTE RON).

I don't know the guy who was co-opted but I'm pretty sure he was co-opted last year when someone else stood down? Correct me if I'm wrong!

LeixlipRed

DB21 wrote: »

However, if someone had got their finger out and went for nomination, there wouldn't be a situation like this. Democracy involves work, you know.

Think we demonstrated we're not afraid of a bit of work with the petition no? I never heard anything about the nomination process even. That's my major complaint.

DB21

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Think we demonstrated we're not afraid of a bit of work with the petition no? I never heard anything about the nomination process even. That's my major complaint.

It was fairly well advertised throughout campus by those big white posters with the bold print on them, as well as via email.

But yes, it should have been a RON, as opposed to co-opting. Although, that means pushing out the election even further, leaving post-grads without representation at Union Council for longer. Maybe if the co-opted guy was made only an interim rep, and a full rep was elected at a later date it would be a better situation.

eogriffin

I'm practically living between the library and the canteen at the minute and have to admit I didn't see any of these posters. That though is my own doing.
(I'm waiting for LeixlipRed to tell us of the lack of posters on South Campus).

The co-option followed by the reopening of nominations seems the only reasonable way to deal with the current situation.

squishykins

The reason RON wasn't an option was because we eloped together.

*Runs away from Norrdeth's hammer*

Norrdeth

Hmm *Strokes Chin*
I've no idea what's going on. Vote me I guess...
:troll:

squishykins

Norrdeth wrote: »

Hmm *Strokes Chin*
I've no idea what's going on. Vote me I guess...
:troll:

You're such an odd mod

NUIMRO

Eunice and Rayne have withdrawn from the First Year Rep election, so the candidate list is now as follows:


First Year Representative

- Claire Breathnach
- Ian Baker
- Leo Cauneen
- David Flanagan
- Dan Hillary
- Stuart Cameron
- Cynthia Okafor
- James Wall

Faculty of Arts, Philosophy and Celtic Studies Representative

- Lorna Deegan
- Rebecca Crunden

Faculty of Social Science Representative

- Ruta Emilija Lankelyte
- Oisin Nolan

Faculty of Science and Engineering Representative

- Mark Kelada
- Benstowe Nengi

How so Joe

Can post-grads vote in their relevant faculty rep elections? Or are we only allowed vote for what would have been the election now replaced with the co-opted guy?

Duddy

Nope, postgrads can only vote for the postgrad faculty rep

Duddy

Also, HUSTINGS THIS MONDAY IN THE COMMON ROOM! 12.30 or thereabouts:)

Seren_

So postgrads have no need to pay attention to this? Aww yeeeeah, sick of elections.

Duddy

:O

*stabby stabby heart pains*

How so Joe

Combined with your avatar, that's the saddest post I've read all day.
Poor Duddy.

purebeta

What a waste of energy, how do we know if these people are suited to their roles as leaders,
it's not like they provide CVs like in the real world.
Student politics is a glorified popularity contest, whoever shouts the loudest(and with most articulation) wins.
You would think that students would be more mature and realize that the SU rep system is little more than a CV +1.

purebeta,
-concerned student

Duddy

purebeta wrote: »

What a waste of energy, how do we know if these people are suited to their roles as leaders,
it's not like they provide CVs like in the real world.

Duddy wrote: »

Also, HUSTINGS THIS MONDAY IN THE COMMON ROOM! 12.30 or thereabouts:)

mickstupp

purebeta wrote: »

What a waste of energy, how do we know if these people are suited to their roles as leaders,
it's not like they provide CVs like in the real world.

It's not like CVs in the real world are particularly useful indicators of ability/experience/common sense either. Maybe it's just the people we used to hire though
I agree about it being a popularity contest but I'd say so is Irish politics in general.

purebeta

I will try to make this but seeing as I don't have a vote(postgrad)
it would be somewhat futile, might alter my opinion on the whole rep system though.
Also how long would something like this take? I have a lecture at two.

tootyflutty

Hustings are usually an hour or two.
As to them being a popularity contest, that generally applies to those who are not interested or do not attend hustings. But I for one, was completely undecided on some positions last year until after hustings, and having to talked to candidates to see exactly what their points are.
I am actually running for a position, and honestly hope that if I get deemed elected, it will be becasue I plan to be very active in my position and have points that students in my faculty feel are relevant to them. Not because of it being a popularity race.

Duddy

Bah, curses to microphones. Candidates all spoke vuri well today.:)
So anyway.


ELECTIONS THIS THURSDAY! GET YO VOTE ON!

LeixlipRed

How many of the candidates didn't go on the junket? Somewhere between 0 and 1/2 I'd say was it?

NUIMRO

President has confirmed that Postgrads will be able to vote for the rep for their Faculty.

How so Joe

Sweet! =D

Seren_

NUIMRO wrote: »

President has confirmed that Postgrads will be able to vote for the rep for their Faculty.

Do we have to know which faculty election we vote in or will we be told? There is a slight lack of clarity as to whether history is in arts or social science :P (it's listed under arts on the website, but people can study it as past of a social science degree and it used to under that heading iirc).

Seren_

Also, the person who used Socially Awkward Penguin in their posters is clearly awesome.

LeixlipRed

NUIMRO wrote: »

President has confirmed that Postgrads will be able to vote for the rep for their Faculty.

But not for their postgrad rep :pac:

Seren_

Postgrads have probably never voted for the postgrad rep though, seeing as the position was always co-opted by Union Council

dillo2k10

If anyone hasnt made their mind up yet about who they are voting for please consider Cynthia Okafor.

Thanks :P

LeixlipRed

Did she go on the junket?

Seren_

According to my facebook news feed, Oisin Nolan got Social Science rep. I thought Ruta would have been a shoe-in for it!

DB21

Your Text Here wrote: »

According to my facebook news feed, Oisin Nolan got Social Science rep. I thought Ruta would have been a shoe-in for it!

Lorna got the Arts rep position.

DB21

Full list, as per Naoise's facebook:

Faculty of Science and Engineering: Mark Kelada,

Faculty of Social Science: Oisin Nolan,

Faculty of Arts, Philosophy and Celtic Studies: Lorna Deegan,

First Year Representative: Dave Flanagan

Duddy

^^yup!

zzzz.