Will Setanta be coming back for Cork?

Rhys Essien

As his contract with Carlton was not renewed and his brother is recalled,would it be a good move?

The_Kew_Tour

Rhys Essien wrote: »

As his contract with Carlton was not renewed and his brother is recalled,would it be a good move?

Not sure if he would be sharp enough to go back playing Hurling, but he certainly bring a buzz back to Cork that' badly needed. But he would have prove he is good enough too.

Cork GAA were stupid to let him go in first place, the man was the David Beckham of GAA world back in 2003(nearly 9 years now:eek:) he was marketing dream and Cork lost a crucial goal poacher, one we badly need now

aidan24326

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Cork GAA were stupid to let him go in first place, the man was the David Beckham of GAA world back in 2003(nearly 9 years now:eek:) he was marketing dream and Cork lost a crucial goal poacher, one we badly need now

And how exactly were they going to hold onto him, offer him a professional contract?

It's doubtful that he could go back to intercounty hurling at this stage, he's too long away from it. I'm sure he'll still do a job for the club alright if he does come back. Will certainly be fitter than most, but his touch and sharpness would most likely be blunted too much now to play at the top level.

The_Kew_Tour

aidan24326 wrote: »

And how exactly were they going to hold onto him, offer him a professional contract?

Ah know come on. I know plenty of players who have decent jobs just from being GAA players. His brother alone is typical example. He would easily have been asked to do adds promotions and made fair bit from it.

I dont think Aussie Rules are on huge figures.

He may not have made as much money, but he would have been bringing in a decent sum the way he was going, if he wanted to go down that road.

premierstone

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ah know come on. I know plenty of players who have decent jobs just from being GAA players. His brother alone is typical example. He would easily have been asked to do adds promotions and made fair bit from it.

I dont think Aussie Rules are on huge figures.

He may not have made as much money, but he would have been bringing in a decent sum the way he was going, if he wanted to go down that road.

Average is €175,000 a year no way anything could have been done, plus he wanted to be a professional athlete and who can blame him.

The_Kew_Tour

premierstone wrote: »

Average is €175,000 a year no way anything could have been done, plus he wanted to be a professional athlete and who can blame him.

Don't blame him one bit, but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

What was disappointing was the CCC not trying to keep him, he may have still wanted to go which is fine, but they made no effort to hold onto him either which is what I am trying to get at.

Diabhal Beag

First off for somebody as skillful and deadly as he was it's a bit stupid to rule out that he'd up for intercounty hurling. If he comes back (he probably won't) and gets into the action again for his club then he could be ready for Cork. Might take a year but Cork won't exactly be winning All-Irelands in the next two years so they have the time to blood him back in should he return.

premierstone

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

First off for somebody as skillful and deadly as he was it's a bit stupid to rule out that he'd up for intercounty hurling. If he comes back (he probably won't) and gets into the action again for his club then he could be ready for Cork. Might take a year but Cork won't exactly be winning All-Irelands in the next two years so they have the time to blood him back in should he return.

He will be 29 next March and has'nt hurled competitively since September 2003, if he makes it back on the Cork Senior team I would be more worried about the state of Cork hurling than rejoicing a great return tbh.

I mean I know he was YHOTY but he has only ever played 5 championship games and that was nearly a decade ago, have a look through the list of some of the winners of YHOTY and see how their careeres never quite blossomed.

aidan24326

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Don't blame him one bit, but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

You're over-estimating what GAA players can make from promotional work. They're not getting anything near that sort of money, not even the top players. The high profile players like Bernard Brogan and Colm Cooper can make a handy few bob here and there from the bits of advertising and promo work they do, probably a few grand a year but nothing like the sort of money you're suggesting. And in any case this talk of Setanta O'Halpin being some sort of GAA version of David Beckham is just silly talk. He was no more high profile than alot of other top intercounty players.

eroo

Not this year anyway. Cork would only make a show of themselves if they did, bringing back someone who gave up hurling for AFL and hasn't played it in a while. Ye would do better to focus on new additions to the hurling panel mixed with the likes of Sean Og.

SeaFields

The emphasis in this thread is focusing on his hurling past and rightly so but I imagine that Conor Counihan would also show an interest with Setanta's background in AFL.

The_Kew_Tour

SeaFields wrote: »

The emphasis in this thread is focusing on his hurling past and rightly so but I imagine that Conor Counihan would also show an interest with Setanta's background in AFL.

great point did not even think about that.

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Don't blame him one bit, but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

What was disappointing was the CCC not trying to keep him, he may have still wanted to go which is fine, but they made no effort to hold onto him either which is what I am trying to get at.

No way any GAA play makes that much from adds etc thats carzy money they wouldn't need a day job if that was the case! Even the top players at most would make a couple of grand a year from endorsemts no where near that sort of money!

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

No way any GAA play makes that much from adds etc thats carzy money they wouldn't need a day job if that was the case! Even the top players at most would make a couple of grand a year from endorsemts no where near that sort of money!

I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

Like i said if they make that kind of money why would they need a job?

Balmed Out

Its not like the guy spent the last eight years working in a chipper, he was a professional athlete. I think 6 or 7 months of playing and hed be grand.
That said I wouldnt see him coming back, by now hes bound to have built a life for himself in Oz and may get signed by another team there anyhow.

daddydick

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

1. You are seriously delusional if you think that ANY inter-county player earns over €100k a year as a result of being a GAA player

2. You are seriously, seriously delusional

lala88

daddydick wrote: »

1. You are seriously delusional if you think that ANY inter-county player earns over €100k a year as a result of being a GAA player

2. You are seriously, seriously delusional

Theres no way any player makes that money and you'd have to be made to think otherwise. Id say a player would be lucky to be making 10 grand a year out of being a GAA player

StephenHendry

yeah interesting bringing sean og back, setanta would be very rusty alright and i doubt it that JBM will risk it. anyone know how aisake is getting on

The_Kew_Tour

daddydick wrote: »

1. You are seriously delusional if you think that ANY inter-county player earns over €100k a year as a result of being a GAA player

2. You are seriously, seriously delusional

I never ever said a player makes that from playing GAA. I am talking about jobs they have from being GAA player:rolleyes:

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I never ever said a player makes that from playing GAA. I am talking about jobs they have from being GAA player:rolleyes:

Still do you really think a GAA player would make over a 100 grand a year from endorsemts etc?

Mountainlad

lala88 wrote: »

Still do you really think a GAA player would make over a 100 grand a year from endorsemts etc?

Lad, to be fair, will you read what he's saying.

He said through the GAA they're making that money i.e. they've found them a job, plus endorsments on top. It still sounds huge to me, I must admit, but he didn't say they'd get 100k a year from being on Lucozade ads or whatever!

I'd say Sean Og has made a fair bit of money. Dan has a modest enough day job, but like the year he won player of the year he won two cars to the best of my knowledge.

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

Still do you really think a GAA player would make over a 100 grand a year from endorsemts etc?

I never said they did, but I do know players who get jobs easier from being a GAA star and of course they get extra perks and so on.

and fair play to them is what I say too..

The_Kew_Tour

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lad, to be fair, will you read what he's saying.

He said through the GAA they're making that money i.e. they've found them a job, plus endorsments on top. It still sounds huge to me, I must admit, but he didn't say they'd get 100k a year from being on Lucozade ads or whatever!

I'd say Sean Og has made a fair bit of money. Dan has a modest enough day job, but like the year he won player of the year he won two cars to the best of my knowledge.

Thanks.

I maybe should been clearer, but that' what I was on about.

Know few players who earn what I mentioned and certainly not on year year basis, but I do know that player's get car's and other perks from being GAA player. Now it's only a select few, but that's I suppose obvious.

Again fair play to them. I know friend of mine who plays for average intercounty side and I would say an average player for them and in last year alone he got new car and also got job as being head the face of his company which he told me got him good few quid for it.

Pride Fighter

daddydick wrote: »

1. You are seriously delusional if you think that ANY inter-county player earns over €100k a year as a result of being a GAA player

2. You are seriously, seriously delusional

Cool the jets and relax, mod warning.

lala88 wrote: »

Theres no way any player makes that money and you'd have to be made to think otherwise. Id say a player would be lucky to be making 10 grand a year out of being a GAA player

After the AI final agents where queueing up for Cluxton's signature for endorsements and advertising. He would have been able to get about 30k a year from that. That would be the type of money Lar Corbett, Shefflin, Bernard Brogan and the Gooch can command per year.

bruschi

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Cool the jets and relax, mod warning.



After the AI final agents where queueing up for Cluxton's signature for endorsements and advertising. He would have been able to get about 30k a year from that. That would be the type of money Lar Corbett, Shefflin, Bernard Brogan and the Gooch can command per year.

and does Cluxton get €95,000 for his teaching job?

some of the elite players, like the ones you mention, can get top endorsements, and a few can get jobs through the GAA, some of them decent jobs, I would just find it hard to fathom they can be getting jobs of nearly €100k per annum.

The_Kew_Tour

bruschi wrote: »

and does Cluxton get €95,000 for his teaching job?

some of the elite players, like the ones you mention, can get top endorsements, and a few can get jobs through the GAA, some of them decent jobs, I would just find it hard to fathom they can be getting jobs of nearly €100k per annum.

I think he means between Job and endorsements. It was what I meant and sure what he is saying too.

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I never said they did, but I do know players who get jobs easier from being a GAA star and of course they get extra perks and so on.

and fair play to them is what I say too..

Don't blame him one bit, but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

This seems like your saying they do

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

Don't blame him one bit, but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

This seems like your saying they do

with a job!!!! with a job!!!!

god almighty:pac:

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

with a job!!!! with a job!!!!

god almighty:pac:

Your saying that now! You didn't say it at first did you?

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

Your saying that now! You didn't say it at first did you?

Yes I know! I cleared that up in at least 2 posts since then:pac:

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Yes I know! I cleared that up in at least 2 posts since then:pac:

Yes after you relised what you had said was wrong then you changed your story....

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

Yes after you relised what you had said was wrong then you changed your story....

Never changed my story at all

Relax, don't take things serious.

Others even understood what I said

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Never changed my story at all

Relax, don't take things serious.

Others even understood what I said

Ok ill try and explane one more.

First you said but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

Then you said I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

Then once people started to say those numbers were crazy out of no where you say you were talking about jobs they have from being GAA players. To me thats changing your story once you realised you were wrong

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

Ok ill try and explane one more.

First you said but I say he could have made 100-125 a year here if kept the way he was going.

Then you said I work with some who play intercounty and they would be yes.

Then once people started to say those numbers were crazy out of no where you say you were talking about jobs they have from being GAA players. To me thats changing your story once you realised you were wrong

lol

I think the word I highlighted gave it away.

I dont even think Rugby players would get endorsements of 100,000

Think about what I said. I said that Setanta could have made roughly 100 maybe little more if he had stayed. Now If I included the job you be looking at 150+ (just guessing).

It can't be more simple, but you would rather pretend that I was wrong so your story looks good.

It's not rocket science and I don't know why your making it out to be.

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

lol

I think the word I highlighted gave it away.

I dont even think Rugby players would get endorsements of 100,000

Think about what I said. I said that Setanta could have made roughly 100 maybe little more if he had stayed. Now If I included the job you be looking at 150+ (just guessing).

It can't be more simple, but you would rather pretend that I was wrong so your story looks good.

It's not rocket science and I don't know why your making it out to be.

Yes to me your saying people you work with say they could make that from endorsements not from working

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

Yes to me your saying people you work with say they could make that from endorsements not from working

So the people I work with, work for nothing..

hmmm. NO.

lala88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

So the people I work with, work for nothing..

hmmm. NO.

No thats not what im saying. You said players could make 100 grand from being a GAA player, then people statred to say you were wrong then you said you ment it was from working something you didn't say at first. I know GAA players can get handy jobs from being intercounty players but still will get no where near the think of money you seem to think they do

The_Kew_Tour

lala88 wrote: »

No thats not what im saying. You said players could make 100 grand from being a GAA player, then people statred to say you were wrong then you said you ment it was from working something you didn't say at first. I know GAA players can get handy jobs from being intercounty players but still will get no where near the think of money you seem to think they do

Yes from having full time job, promotions and endorsements they could.

Sure just look at the offers that some GAA players get with cars and other offers to market things. For feck sake I work in this line business and adding sums together ya kinda get an idea of what they can get. If these players have good education background along with the high profile player there is no problem getting the offers.

I have stated all along it would only be a handful of players that make this of course 98% of players wont make and lot more wont even come close, be it from county or whatever.

I would mention names for example, but that would not be fair on the players, but bit of common sense would have people knowing that.

cremeegg

2011 Liam Rushe Dublin St Patricks, Palmerstown
2010 Brendan Maher Tipperary Borris-Ileigh
2009 Noel McGrath Tipperary Loughmore-Castleiney
2008 Joe Canning Galway Portumna
2007 Séamus Hickey Limerick Murroe Boher
2006 James "Cha" Fitzpatrick Kilkenny Ballyhale Shamrocks
2005 David Collins Galway Liam Mellows
2004 Brian Murphy Cork Bride Rovers
2003 Setanta Ó hAilpín Cork Na Piarsaigh
2002 Eoin Kelly Tipperary Mullinahone
2001 Eoin Kelly Tipperary Mullinahone
2000 Noel Hickey Kilkenny Dunnamaggin
1999 Diarmuid O'Sullivan Cork Cloyne
1998 Stephen Byrne Offaly Kilcormac-Killoughey
1997 Eugene O'Neill (hurler) Tipperary Cappawhite
1996 Mark Foley Limerick Adare



the only one id say who didnt go onto great things was prob eugene o neill??

alan27

Eugene O'Neill played most games for Tipp between 1997 and 2001 He played all games in the championship when Tipp won the All Ireland in 2001, so not too bad.

randd1

Can't see him making an impact in the hurling but you never know, he wasn't half bad and he had the poachers instinct which generally doesn't leave you. He's probably been away from the game too long though, hurling isn't exactly a game you waltz back into, no matter how good you were.

I think he could be a right footballer, Cork could do worse than drafting him into the football side. Big, strong, good in the air, able to win his own ball, a football managers dream really, not to mention the experience of playing professionally. Corks football panel could do with a boost, the injuries (and a poor performance) caught them out against Mayo this year.

rebel girl 15

randd1 wrote: »

Can't see him making an impact in the hurling but you never know, he wasn't half bad and he had the poachers instinct which generally doesn't leave you. He's probably been away from the game too long though, hurling isn't exactly a game you waltz back into, no matter how good you were.

I think he could be a right footballer, Cork could do worse than drafting him into the football side. Big, strong, good in the air, able to win his own ball, a football managers dream really, not to mention the experience of playing professionally. Corks football panel could do with a boost, the injuries (and a poor performance) caught them out against Mayo this year.

Setanta is not coming back - I'm 100% certain!

He has signed with Western Sydney

dartbhoy

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Setanta is not coming back - I'm 100% certain!


He has signed with Western Sydney

You're correct rebel girl,I heard it on Red FM.

rebel girl 15

dartbhoy wrote: »

You're correct rebel girl,I heard it on Red FM.

It was all over the news when it happened 2 and half weeks ago

premierstone

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

It was all over the news when it happened 2 and half weeks ago

Maybe in Cork it was