value a 1989 MB 190 Cosworth

rugbyman

I have read on and off here over the last year quite an interest in 190` s.

there has been discussion on a particular cosworth recently where one of us said it was rotten underneath, though it looked well. that seller was looking for 5750 with a new test as i recall.

i know of one that may be for sale soon , its an 89 model and I have known the last two owners . As i recall it had a strange paint job, as if it had been laquered and the laquer was coming off. that comment may well be rubbish ,but there was something about it.

Any way , how much is it likely to fetch, iffy paintwork, no NCT but no known faults.

I looked on Ebay Uk and there are a few around 1500 ,but not yet sold, still 5 days to go, and a few minters asking 4 to 5 k Pounds.

Any ideas ?

Thanks in advance , Rugbyman

drunkmonkey

I went to buy one before it was mint and the guy wouldn't budge off 13k, It's was amazing condition, as new.

The **** box your describing, worth a €1000 if even, depends on the damage, color, condition, mechanics, interior would be all important, seems like a big restoration job to get it back to 100%, Has it still got the original suspension or has it been swapped out.

I'd walk away from this one, much easier get one that's right.

rugbyman

Thanks for your reply.

this car is probably in good mechanical order , has not done 10,000 miles in five years , . Out of my head i reckoned it was worth 2k all day long. If it is for sale I shall recommend to the owner that it be put through NCT, the cheapest 50 euro check up in the world.

the one you looked at clearly was a minter, but no one would aspire to re create that.

Regards Rugbyman

unkel

rugbyman wrote: »

If it is for sale I shall recommend to the owner that it be put through NCT, the cheapest 50 euro check up in the world.

Sound advice. If it passes the NCT, I agree with you that it must be worth 2k all day long even with bad paintwork

goochy

its not actually a cosworth only the earlier 2.3 model had the cosworth cylinder head

Fishtits

As an aside guys, what are 190E's in general like in terms of body/chassis corrosion?

mike65

Strong, mine was 16 years old when I waved it goodbye and apart from the rotted battery tray, some very slight crumbling inside a jacking point (they are a tube inside the body) and a very small bit of hidden rust at the left hand rear light cluster it was fine.

mike65

goochy wrote: »

its not actually a cosworth only the earlier 2.3 model had the cosworth cylinder head

This is a matter for debate, there are 2.5 lumps with Cossy markings around. Its usually said the larger engine was made by Mercedes with the 2.3 design as the template.

WDB123

the 2.3 was made by cosworth and the 2.5 mercedes so the only true cossie is a 2.3
nearly certain i am sure some people will correct me if i am wrong

In terms of value,whatever someone is prepared to pay as prices are baaaad at the minute,

Mach 2

rugbyman wrote: »

I looked on Ebay Uk and there are a few around 1500 ,but not yet sold, still 5 days to go, and a few minters asking 4 to 5 k Pounds.

Any ideas ?

Thanks in advance , Rugbyman

A £1500 2.3 or 2.5-16 I'd avoid rule of thumb. There's little or no 'minters' available at £4-5k here or the UK, that sort of money will buy an o.k. car requiring work in the sort or medium term. The very best are worth between 8k & 15k.


As for the comments regarding Cosworth. There is no such thing as a Merc Cosworth be it a 2.3 or a 2.5-16. As for the cylinder heads on both, all 2.3's were cast by Cosworth and all 2.5's that I'm aware of have the same Cosworth casing mark as the 2.3's even if the 2.5 head is different i.e. modifed for even better flow, so one could surmise that Cosworth cast all heads or Merc used the Cosworth casts in-house for the 2.5's. No one other than Mercedes & Cosworth know the answer. And really, it's all a bit immaterial as no self respecting owner would call his 16V a Cosworth.

VolvoMan

One of these is rotting in a driveway across the road from me.

It's on a Northern reg, but I think I remember the owner telling me that in a past life it was used by Buckingham Palace security.