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Right to Disassociation

  • 18-10-2011 9:10pm
    #1
    Contra Proferentem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭


    I know this will be harkening back to days of yore for some in this particular forum, but for others, it's a current topic.

    It's well known that there is an implied right to disassociation within the Constitution of 1937 and I've always wondered how university student's unions are permitted to claim all members of the student body as paying members since it could be said that people have a right to disassociate from any particular organisation as they see fit.

    Nothing life and death in it or anything, but during my long hours of study idleness it was something that got my curiosity up and running.


Comments

  • #2
    234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    Nobody is obliged to pay the fee to any student's union. If pushed, no union would claim that they represented all students; only their members.


  • #3
    Contra Proferentem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭Contra Proferentem


    As a matter of interests are students bound by agreements the unions make with college administrations? And if so, if someone has disassociated (made known the union doesn't represent them), are they not entitled to be consulted individually?


  • #4
    Jo King
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Jo King


    No. It would not be practical. By consulting with the students union the college gives a means for all students to have a say. It is similar to workers committees in non unionised employments where there are requirements for employee consultation.
    I do know of a person who objected to their union giving money to the Labour Party and got a pro rata reduction in their union subscription.


  • #5
    234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    If students are bound by an agreement it would be because the college has the authority to make certain orders, etc. it would not be because of the party negotiating. Various interest groups could lobby the boards of colleges and the boards would then make a decision. It is this decision that binds the students, not the lobbying force.

    The same principle can be applied to the workings of a government. If IBEC lobbies for lower corporation tax for SMEs and this is brought in by the government then every SME is bound to comply with the new legislation whether they are a member of IBEC or not. This is because they are boud by the authority of the government.


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