oil burner not working

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hi i would just like someone to point me in the right direction,have a vortex oil burner replaced the jet,new fuel pump and cleaned the filters 2 wks ago an yestherday it stoped working..the pump and the motor are working but the reset button is not working and the button on the control box stops the motor from spinnin when i press it in , the blower is staying on,doesnt seem to be igniting the reset button is doing nothing....could this be the control box??:(:(:(

DGOBS

Pe cell, solenoid or control box

Disconnect pe cell and allow to run, if it fires then goes to lock out replace pe cell
If not, remove solenoid and check resistance is approx 100 ohms, if not replace
If both are ok replace control box

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DGOBS wrote: »

Pe cell, solenoid or control box

Disconnect pe cell and allow to run, if it fires then goes to lock out replace pe cell
If not, remove solenoid and check resistance is approx 100 ohms, if not replace
If both are ok replace control box

thanks for reply, the thing is its not going to lock out not matter what i do it just keeps runing? the solenoid is working fine. and i cleaned the pe cell.

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i have just got a price for a control box €95, any one know where i can get one cheper........?

Billy Bunting

Try disconnecting the photocell in the control box, then turn on, if it fires quickly reconnect it, if it runs its the photocell.

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Billy Bunting wrote: »

Try disconnecting the photocell in the control box, then turn on, if it fires quickly reconnect it, if it runs its the photocell.

just tryed it with the photcell disconned no joy. the thing thats buging me is its not going to lock out it will stay on, and wont light up?????

Billy Bunting

Then i would go for control box, had this complaint quite a bit and its either been photocell or control, more usual to be photocell.

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what is it that gos in the control box like it dose not move or any thing so how do they brake? do they just burn out.

DGOBS

Billy, why would you quickly reconnect the PE cell? If it runs fires and lockouts when only pre purging when connected it proves the problem

Billy Bunting

DGOBS wrote: »

Billy, why would you quickly reconnect the PE cell? If it runs fires and lockouts when only pre purging when connected it proves the problem

Agree that going to lockout does prove the problem, but in my experience reconnecting after it fires but before lockout will keep it running, at least until it reaches temperature.

Billy Bunting

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what is it that gos in the control box like it dose not move or any thing so how do they brake? do they just burn out.

Several things with control boxes, electronics!! power surge, dampness poor connections.

DGOBS

Of course it will keep it going until the stat temp is reached, as the PE cell in failed in the 'see light' position, it has shorted

Billy Bunting

DGOBS wrote: »

Of course it will keep it going until the stat temp is reached, as the PE cell in failed in the 'see light' position, it has shorted

Exactly! but if you knew that why bother to ask. My posts arn't aimed at you DGOBS they were meant to help the OP, thats what we're here for, if you can prove the fault thats great but proving the fault and getting some heat on would be better, IMHO.

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lads i have just replaced the c box still no joy same as yestherday motor still going not lighting and not going to lock out it just wont go to lock out and wont reset????/

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lads i have just replaced the c box still no joy same as yestherday motor still going not lighting and not going to lock out it just wont go to lock out and wont reset????/

have just tryed new p cell still not going to lock out im thinking some thing is jamed not the pump, c box , p cell, fuel, fillters, motor if i could just reset it.

Billy Bunting

If you've correctly done all of the above i think your going to need to get a service guy in.

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Billy Bunting wrote: »

If you've correctly done all of the above i think your going to need to get a service guy in.

ill have talk with a lad in the morning:(:(:(

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where do the 2 wires go from the reset button under the little cap???

DGOBS

It can only be the PE cell, solenoid or control box that causes this issue

Billy, you taking me up wrong, was asking in case I was missing something, always new tricks to learn, and to be honest I would never evnen of thought of doing it to give some old dear a warm house (so I have learned something new) ,everyday is a learning day'

But I would normally have PE cells in stock, but a good tip!

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DGOBS wrote: »

It can only be the PE cell, solenoid or control box that causes this issue

Billy, you taking me up wrong, was asking in case I was missing something, always new tricks to learn, and to be honest I would never evnen of thought of doing it to give some old dear a warm house (so I have learned something new) ,everyday is a learning day'

But I would normally have PE cells in stock, but a good tip!

if it was any them why is it not going to lock out ????

Billy Bunting

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But I would normally have PE cells in stock,

Yep! i also keep them on the van, but i doubt the OP or that little old dear do.

DGOBS

Yeah, but after giving it some thought, don't think it would be a good idea to do it.

The cell is 'always seeing light' what if the flame failed!
It would continue to disperse oil into the hot surfaces of a boiler, creating vapor, and if it find ignition......http://b-static.net/vbulletin/images/icons/icon8.gif

A vapor ignition like that can be strong enough to blow of combustion chamber doors (have see a few that happened because of a brown out)

Billy Bunting

DGOBS wrote: »

Yeah, but after giving it some thought, don't think it would be a good idea to do it.

The cell is 'always seeing light' what if the flame failed!
It would continue to disperse oil into the hot surfaces of a boiler, creating vapor, and if it find ignition......http://b-static.net/vbulletin/images/icons/icon8.gif

A vapor ignition like that can be strong enough to blow of combustion chamber doors (have see a few that happened because of a brown out)

OK i see your point, leave the ol girl to the hypothermia then.

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i got it going this morning:D:D:D the fuel pump i put on last week was a we bit lose :o so tighted that up it started to go to lock out so happy days , then i put new p cell on agan, tryed it and it went frist time:D so it was fuel pump had to be tighted up and p cell....... thanks for help and posts.... :Di feel the floors geting hot:D