Locks

mikerd4

Im getting a new bike next week and as its of value I am not taking chances with security. Im getting a decent u lock but as per recommendations Im looking to get another lock.

Saw this
http://www.ibood.com/ie/en/

on offer today. Anyone any experience of these, good/bad/indiferent?

kenmc

Get a kryptonite new york or a faggadaboutit. Never heard of and wouldn't trust that IBOOD one tbh, why risk it?

mikerd4

Getting a decent u lock, just wanted a secondary deterrent. Saw that one and thought someone might know about them.

Otherwise Ill get a second Kryptonite u lock

seamus

Never heard of AXA locks before, but they appear to be quite popular in the Netherlands.

They're rated by Stichting ART, who appear to be Holland's equivalent of Sold Secure. And tbh I would expect Holland to know a bit about bike security.

The lock above gets four stars on their rating system. For comparison, the Kryptonite Evo that so many of us use, gets 3 stars from them, the Fagheddaboutit chain lock gets five stars.

So despite being a bit iffy initially, this doesn't look like a bad deal tbh.

Though someone with a bit of dutch might be able to say more from the ratings website: http://www.stichtingart.nl/

Doctor Bob

Assuming your first lock is a good U-look such as kenmc recommends, then I'd say it's a good option as a back-up, but it looks heavy. Will it be left somewhere, i.e. workplace parking, or will you carry it every day? If the latter, then you should probably get something lighter.

Edit: And as seamus says, Axa is a reliable brand on the mainland.

Edit2:

mikerd4 wrote: »

Getting a decent u lock, just wanted a secondary deterrent. Saw that one and thought someone might know about them.

Otherwise Ill get a second Kryptonite u lock

If you're getting two locks, best to get ones with different locking mechanisms, i.e. not two U-locks.

Lumen

seamus wrote: »

The lock above gets four stars on their rating system. For comparison, the Kryptonite Evo that so many of us use, gets 3 stars from them, the Fagheddaboutit chain lock gets five stars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ip5QoMFyi0

Is that a Fagheddaboutit chain lock @ 9 seconds in?

seamus

Lumen wrote: »

Is that a Fagheddaboutit chain lock @ 9 seconds in?

Possibly, though the chain itself looks a little thin, maybe it's an older one?

Though tbh there are no carry-able chains that will stand up to a 4-foot bolt cutters. Only the ridiculously heavy ones will.

But then not many scumbags will get away with wandering around with a 4-foot bolt cutter. The majority are likely carrying a 12-inch one up their sleeve or down their pants.

Lumen

seamus wrote: »

Though tbh there are no carry-able chains that will stand up to a 4-foot bolt cutters. Only the ridiculously heavy ones will.

Right, which is the reason why chains are only good for leaving at a locking site. For portability use a decent u-lock, which requires a noisy angle grinder and 30 seconds or so to defeat, rather than a quick snip with a 4 foot bolt cropper.

...although I use a Trelock chain when out and about with the kids, as it will lock three bikes together and is lighter than 3 u-locks.

Beasty

Lumen wrote: »

Is that a Fagheddaboutit chain lock @ 9 seconds in?

Looks like this one to me

mikerd4

Im getting my bike from cyclebike in town, when I mentioned a Fahrenheit lock he suggested one of the u locks they sell as being the equivalent. I didnt get the brand name though stupidly enough so cant search for them.

I was going to back it up in my shed (only place Ill leave my bike unattended is in work on site in a bike shed, I doubt any of the other staff would rob it) with the chain type I posted.

TBH Im looking at the videos posted and even the so called super locks are being opened in seconds either with bolt cutters or bic biros ffs. Just want the best deterrent I guess

Lumen

mikerd4 wrote: »

even the so called super locks are being opened in seconds either with bolt cutters or bic biros ffs

The bic thing was a weakness of Kryptonite locks a few years ago. They solved that some time ago.

Wishbone Ash

Lumen wrote: »

For portability use a decent u-lock, which requires a noisy angle grinder and 30 seconds or so to defeat

......and it also requires a power source. How many run-of-the-mill scumbags carry generators around with them! 99.9% will move on to an easier target.

Lumen

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

......and it also requires a power source.

Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KgJOIGS7ZM

See from 1:03.

That's over 400W. This 36V one has twice the power.

autotrader

Hi Mike,

I was advised when i bought my bike not to bother with a lock, that way i wont be tempted to leave it anywhere because it will most certainly be robbed if i do:eek:... and this advice was coming from a sales man in a bike shop, after me telling him i'm willing to spend over €100 on a lock.

I saw a bike being stolen recently by three thugs and it was done in about 3 second flat and the lock looked pretty decent. This was in broad day light outside cycleways on parnell street. nice bike too:(

mikerd4

How resistive are the kryptonite locks to someone putting a bottle jack in between them and opening it up?

mikerd4

Just found out the lock Im getting thrown in with the bike is a on guard pitbull u lock. Anyone any experience?

Lumen

mikerd4 wrote: »

How resistive are the kryptonite locks to someone putting a bottle jack in between them and opening it up?

If you use them properly, i.e. fill the lock with frame and/or wheel, then there's no problem.

Lumen

mikerd4 wrote: »

Just found out the lock Im getting thrown in with the bike is a on guard pitbull u lock. Anyone any experience?

No, but a quick Google suggests they make some crap locks, though that one might be OK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGbXyNibgM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwWFA0fR5oY

Stark

seamus wrote: »

But then not many scumbags will get away with wandering around with a 4-foot bolt cutter. The majority are likely carrying a 12-inch one up their sleeve or down their pants.

Unless they have a car like the ones I saw robbing bikes in our basement in work the other day. (On the plus side I was able to get the car reg number, on the negative side, the guards didn't seem to care too much when I rang them with it).