American Cancer Society turns down $500k from Aheist/Secular group

MrStuffins

Apologies if this has been posted already but this is beyond a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iv9fdAfCoE

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Cancer research doesn't need more money. Money isn't the problem.

MrStuffins

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Cancer research doesn't need more money.

Why not?

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MrStuffins wrote: »

Why not?

Sorry I edited my post.

The issue with the research is not monetary. Aids needs more money than cancer research.

MrStuffins

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Sorry I edited my post.

The issue with the research is not monetary. Aids needs more money than cancer research.

But this is not the issue.

And research always needs money.

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Is religious prejudice really surprising to you?

MrStuffins

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Is religious prejudice really surprising to you?

Are you having trouble seeing what the issue is here?

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Haha not at all. An American group set up to "help people" have an issue with non-Christians helping them. It's the whole feel good factor. Please 2 not accept money from the devil. People who donate or help out to make themselves feel better sicken me.

Calibos

MrStuffins wrote: »

Are you having trouble seeing what the issue is here?

I'm having trouble seeing what the issue is.....whats the video about again, everytime I watch it I get distracted....:D

MrPudding

Hmmmm, so hawt....

MrP

MagicMarker

Sure what do they need 500k for? They can just have a good aul pray instead.

the_syco

The video was excellent. It's a pity I didn't have any sound

http://www.examiner.com/humanist-in-national/american-cancer-society-refuses-500-000-from-atheists

The American Cancer Society has turned down a donation worth $500,000 from the Foundation Beyond Belief, a secular charity funded by atheists, freethinkers, and humanists.

Thursday, the Foundation Beyond Belief issued a formal statement indicating that their offer to raise up to a half million dollars through the American Cancer Society's Relay for Life program was recently tabled when the American Cancer Society declined to allow the Foundation to create a national Relay team as other non-profits have done.

While the American Cancer Society (ACS) claims their inability to work with the Foundation Beyond Belief (FBB) has nothing to do with the Foundation's godless stance, the evidence indicates otherwise. The fact is, the ACS allows other non-profits to participate in the national relay, and the only conceivable reason for the ACS to disallow the FBB from participating is their somewhat controversial position towards religious belief.

Originally the American Cancer Society was receptive to the generous offer made by the secular charity. Yet in the end, the American Cancer Society rejected the Foundation Beyond Belief‘s request to participate as a National Team for this year’s Relay For Life. This, despite the fact that there is good reason to believe that if given the opportunity, atheists and humanists around the country could have raised at least $500,000 for cancer research.
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The reaction to the decision by ACS to reject the generous offer made by the secular group has been one of disbelief and anger. The ACS Facebook page has been flooded with angry posts disgusted with what they believe to be religious discrimination, and what many believe to be a foolish decision to decline a generous offer that could have done much good towards the fight against cancer.

MagicMarker

MrPudding wrote: »

Hmmmm, so hawt....

MrP

Calibos wrote: »

I'm having trouble seeing what the issue is.....whats the video about again, everytime I watch it I get distracted....:D

Wouldn't mind bumping into her in a darkened elevator.

Knasher

You've got to wonder if they discriminate when they are distributing the funds as well.

liamw

Perhaps the cost of negative PR in accepting this donation outweighes the cost of rejecting potential donations from atheist/secular groups?

UDP

Knasher wrote: »

You've got to wonder if they discriminate when they are distributing the funds as well.

and find a cure for just christian cancers?

robindch

UDP wrote: »

find a cure for just christian cancers?

Why don't they just pray? God is loving, answers all prayers, etc, etc.

irishh_bob

i can see the logic behind this on a purely practical level , by rejecting the 500 k from the heathens , they might very well see thier coffers swell from the god botherers :mad:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

We feel a need to address some of the comments posted on this Facebook page and a recent blog post related to the relationship between the American Cancer Society and Foundation Beyond Belief. We hope to clarify some misinformation and correct any misconceptions.

The Society has not turned down the Foundation Beyond Belief’s generous donation offer and we definitely don’t want to discourage the group’s participation in Relay For Life. We are grateful for their interest in saving lives from cancer. In fact, we continue to discuss with this group ways in which we can work together.

The Foundation sought to participate in Relay For Life’s National Team Program, which is a program for corporate donors and supporters. The Foundation Beyond Belief is not a corporate entity, so our representative offered alternatives to the National Team Program that are consistent with the way in which Relay For Life works with other foundations, student groups, social and philosophical organizations, and other types of groups across the country that do not meet the criteria of the National Team Program. Our representative encouraged participation by the Foundation Beyond Belief at the community level, and offered to make introductions to local Relay events in communities wherever the Foundation has affiliates across the country. The Society has similar relationships with millions of individuals representing similar organizations nationwide.

It is true that there are some recognition benefits available only to groups that are part of the National Team Program, and it is regrettable that some people may feel offended that the Foundation Beyond Belief would not be eligible to take advantage of those benefits. In managing Relay For Life, with thousands of community events and millions of passionate participants nationwide, we strive to deal fairly and consistently with everyone.

We sincerely hope we can find a resolution to this situation that is agreeable to all concerned , because it is clear that we all share a passion for Relay and our mission of helping people stay well, get well, find cures, and fight back against cancer. And at the end of the day, saving lives is what it is all about.



Reuel Johnson

National Vice President, Relay For Life

TLDR, foundation beyond belief tried to get into the corporate sponsored area. was told "no, you're not corporate sponsors". then threw a massive hissy fit and atheists all around the internet cover themselves in glory.

http://www.acsworkplacesolutions.com/relayteamprogram.asp

the program they were trying to join. note the names of the groups entered "**** atheists" "nonbelievers are scum" "kill all ******s".
maybe you all actually have a point after all.

robindch

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

a massive hissy fit

All I see here is a shoulder-shrug or two, some lame jokes and a few comments about a smokin' hot presenter.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the program they were trying to join. note the names of the groups entered "**** atheists" "nonbelievers are scum" "kill all ******s". maybe you all actually have a point after all.

Pubs open already I see.

Rev Hellfire

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People who donate or help out to make themselves feel better sicken me.

That's most likely everybody then.

Otacon

Did anyone else laugh at the below quote?

The reaction to the decision by ACS to reject the generous offer made by the secular group has been one of disbelief and anger.

amacachi

I've always wondered what would happen if one of the "charities" paid for something useful, I assume it would be doled out at cost price. LOL.

I'd sooner buy shares in a company working on cancer research, be just as effective but at least ya get profit out of it too.

goose2005

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Sorry I edited my post.

The issue with the research is not monetary. Aids needs more money than cancer research.

AIDS already gets plenty of money; it's water-borne diseases that are underfunded.

sbsquarepants

MrStuffins wrote: »

Are you having trouble seeing what the issue is here?

The american cancer society don't want the money, which is very odd i'll grant you, but for whatever reason they don't want it.
So give it to someone who does?
I don't know anything about either group, but they don't seem to mesh so why even try to deal with each other? Seems like point scoring to me. Surely there are any number of cancer charities that would take the hand off you for that kind of money.

MrPudding

One other point. They did not turn down $500k, they turned down a commitment to try to raise $500k. Might be a small point but I think it is worth noting.

MrP

ItsAWindUp

Would be funny if it wasn't so serious an issue.

ShooterSF

I'll take it.