Offered Ovation tyres, middle of the road or comedy tyres?

Mr Magners

I rang my local Advance Pitstop on Saturday for a price on a pair of 175/65/15 tyres. Asked for a price for upper mid-range tyres. Chap on the phone said all he had to offer was Ovation tyres, he said they were a good middle of the road tyre and looked for €80 a pop. I'd never heard of them so I declined the offer.

I've since googled them and reviews say to avoid them as they are most definitely budget tyres and the stopping distance for them, particularly in the wet is diabolical.

What do you guys think. If I'd taken him at his word I could have put dangerous rubber on the car. Should I follow it up with them because of their bad advice.

I ended up getting Bridgestone for €75 a pop from a local indy instead so happy days!!

Big Nasty

Out-Standing! :pac:

coolbeans

Another tale of woe featuring Advance...

Tea 1000

Mr Magners wrote: »

I rang my local Advance Pitstop on Saturday for a price on a pair of 175/65/15 tyres. Asked for a price for upper mid-range tyres. Chap on the phone said all he had to offer was Ovation tyres, he said they were a good middle of the road tyre and looked for €80 a pop. I'd never heard of them so I declined the offer.

I've since googled them and reviews say to avoid them as they are most definitely budget tyres and the stopping distance for them, particularly in the wet is diabolical.

What do you guys think. If I'd taken him at his word I could have put dangerous rubber on the car. Should I follow it up with them because of their bad advice.

I ended up getting Bridgestone for €75 a pop from a local indy instead so happy days!!

There's your problem right there...

They usually recommend Barum tyres that are apparantly quite decent for what they are. They must have has these ovation yokes in stock and were just trying to get rid of them.

challengemaster

Advance shítstop strikes again

bazz26

RoverJames wrote: »

They usually recommend Barum tyres that are apparantly quite decent for what they are. They must have has these ovation yokes in stock and were just trying to get rid of them.

Yes, these places generally recommend what they have in stock irrespective of how good or bad they are. It's the cheap ****e tryes that they are making a living off.

OP, the first mistake people make though is usually by asking these places "what can I get in my size for €xx". Cheap crap rubber is mostly what is selling these days. And of course they are going to tell you they are decent, they are trying to sell them. Unlike most people though, you had the good sense to do a bit of research on them, most folk will just see the price and take them.

The Tyre Dude

Ovation tyres are certainly middle of the road tyres, then the other side of the road, then the middle again, then backward down the road and upside down in a ditch.

Best to stick to known brands.

E39MSport

Comedy tyres. I like it.

rai555

E39MSport wrote: »

Comedy tyres. I like it.

and you might end up with the tragedy

Fey!

OP; what's the tyre size?

Mrs Fey got Bridgestones for a Freelander (195/65/15) for €85 a corner fitted. Dunlops were the same price.

In comparison, the budget tyres Advance quoted you for don't seem too budget, unless you were getting comparably huge tyres (255/70/16 Bridgestones for my Hilux were €150 per corner fitted).

First (and last) time I got a tyre in Advance it was a directional Falken which they fitted in the wrong direction!

YouTookMyName

Fey! wrote: »

In comparison, the budget tyres Advance quoted you for don't seem too budget, unless you were getting comparably huge tyres (255/70/16 Bridgestones for my Hilux were €150 per corner fitted).

You'd get a much better tyre off camskill and fitted locally for that price.

BostonB

Last year I rang about 10 places all over Dublin and no one had a known brand in stock in the size I was looking for.

EPM

YouTookMyName wrote: »

You'd get a much better tyre off camskill and fitted locally for that price.

Not always. Definitely worth pricing online but I'd give local outfits the chance to match it. You'll find someone that will match or come pretty darned close in my experience.

YouTookMyName

EPM wrote: »

Not always. Definitely worth pricing online but I'd give local outfits the chance to match it. You'll find someone that will match or come pretty darned close in my experience.

Fair enough, i would agree with you with that in some places.

There was a little dig at the bridgestone dueller in there, which isn't well suited, imo and experience, to a double cab.

tanko

I know this is a bit off thread, but i have been quoted 180 euros to get 4 kingstar 165 70 14 tyres fitted on a 99 corolla which is used as a run around. I have never heard of this brand. Are they any good?

MugMugs

tanko wrote: »

I know this is a bit off thread, but i have been quoted 180 euros to get 4 kingstar 165 70 14 tyres fitted on a 99 corolla which is used as a run around. I have never heard of this brand. Are they any good?

Hankook budget jobs.

For that size Tyre you'd get a reputable brand for around the same.

Dilbert75

MugMugs wrote: »

Hankook budget jobs.

For that size Tyre you'd get a reputable brand for around the same.

€45 each? That's cheap. I'd rather throw an extra €60 at them and get something decent, even though Hankook themselves used to be ok.

MugMugs

Sorry. Wasn't clear there. King star are the Hankook budget brand.

Fey!

YouTookMyName wrote: »

You'd get a much better tyre off camskill and fitted locally for that price.

I've gone down that road before and not been happy.

I'll take my tyre guys recommendation because it's his job to know what's right and what's wrong, and I trust him to do so. I also know that if I have any problems (even those caused by using a different tyre centre or internet tyres), he'll sort me out. This means that now I won't bother going anywhere else, even if he works out a couple of quid a corner more expensive.

There's a lot to be said for a professional, local service you can trust.

Also, I don't drive a double cab.

Bluetonic

Fey! wrote: »

I've gone down that road before and not been happy.

I'll take my tyre guys recommendation because it's his job to know what's right and what's wrong, and I trust him to do so. I also know that if I have any problems (even those caused by using a different tyre centre or internet tyres), he'll sort me out. This means that now I won't bother going anywhere else, even if he works out a couple of quid a corner more expensive.

There's a lot to be said for a professional, local service you can trust.

Also, I don't drive a double cab.

Is a tyre your ordering, not some medical operation.

There is very little advice a professional, local service can offer which can not be acquired by ones self through a little research. There are significant savings to be made without any added risk in my opinion.

Gophur

Got 4 new GT-Radials fitted yesterday.

Should be interesting!

E39MSport

^^ what Bluetonic said.

This is definitely something you should/could research yourself and purchase at consdierable saving when compared with Irish resellers.

Mr Magners

E39MSport wrote: »

Comedy tyres. I like it.

Thanks, can't claim the credit for it though, saw it on here somewhere.

Fey! wrote: »

OP; what's the tyre size?

Mrs Fey got Bridgestones for a Freelander (195/65/15) for €85 a corner fitted. Dunlops were the same price.

In comparison, the budget tyres Advance quoted you for don't seem too budget, unless you were getting comparably huge tyres (255/70/16 Bridgestones for my Hilux were €150 per corner fitted).

First (and last) time I got a tyre in Advance it was a directional Falken which they fitted in the wrong direction!

Tyres are 175/65/15.

That was part of my point. They offered me budget tyres, claiming they were middle of the road and charging quite close to top-end money (€80 a pop). I got Bridgestones from an indy for €75.

Fey! wrote: »

I've gone down that road before and not been happy.

I'll take my tyre guys recommendation because it's his job to know what's right and what's wrong, and I trust him to do so. I also know that if I have any problems (even those caused by using a different tyre centre or internet tyres), he'll sort me out. This means that now I won't bother going anywhere else, even if he works out a couple of quid a corner more expensive.

There's a lot to be said for a professional, local service you can trust.

Also, I don't drive a double cab.

They've just proven, to me anyway, they can't be trusted.

To be honest I've become a lot more aware of the dangers of cheap rubber from reading threads on here so when he mentioned Ovation I said no thanks and 30 seconds on Google proved this to be the correct thing to do. If I didn't have this awareness, which the majority of car owners don't, I would have trusted the local, professional outfit and put unsafe, expensive rubbish on the car.

Fey!

Bluetonic wrote: »

Is a tyre your ordering, not some medical operation.

There is very little advice a professional, local service can offer which can not be acquired by ones self through a little research. There are significant savings to be made without any added risk in my opinion.

It's not just advice, it's getting the job done properly.

We got Dunlop tyres from a tyre centre a couple of years ago which resulted in high road noise and a lot of vibration. It turned out that there was no E mark on the tyres, and the tyres were sub-standard.

I got a directional tyre from another national centre several years ago; they fitted the tyre backways.

Then there are the guys like the OP encountered who recommend and charge high money for not very good tyres.

These would be, in my opinion, not professional, where the guy who knows his stuff and gets it right every time I would deem to be professional.

I have bought tyres online, but after fitting and disposing of the old tyres I saved a total of about €10, which to me in not worth the hassle.

As for it not being a medical operation, the wrong (substandard or badly fitted) tyre can easily leave you requiring a medical operation.

Finally, there are threads on here, and on other motoring forums, all the time asking about various tyre brands, and some of these give dubious recommendations (I saw one recommending Roadstones which, from experience, I wouldn't put on a rollerskate, not to mind a car).

Maybe the mods should put up a tyre sticky or a tyre sub-forum where people can find reviews and opinions from forum members easily.

Mr Magners

Fey! wrote: »

Maybe the mods should put up a tyre sticky or a tyre sub-forum where people can find reviews and opinions from forum members easily.

I'd agree with this, there's hardly a day goes by without someone starting a new thread looking for adivce/opinions on tyres. Might be handy to keep them all in the one place.