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Euthanasia: Should it be legal?

  • 15-10-2011 11:44am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭


    I really think it should be, but only in the case of someone who won't get better.

    What's the point of someone suffering if they don't want to be here? It's just cruel and a waiting game for the person in question.

    I'm all for it under the above guideline.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭gernon


    its the youth in Ireland that worries me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    In principle, yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭T0mmy C


    gernon wrote: »
    its the youth in Ireland that worries me

    Why?

    There's bad in all places unfortunately.

    Some people are just scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Sooopie


    Absolutely, I think it should be introduced 100%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Damn Chinese kids!

    *gets coat*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    T0mmy C wrote: »
    I really think it should be, but only in the case of someone who won't get better.

    It depends on exactly what you mean by "Euthanasia".

    Assisted Suicide > Euthanasia


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 448 ✭✭tunedout


    does anybody know where to buy earphones for a mobile phone i saw a guy listening to music on his phone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I'd say yes but under very strict conditions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭T0mmy C


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    It depends on exactly what you mean by "Euthanasia".

    Assisted Suicide > Euthanasia

    That's not legal in the UK. You'd probably be sent down for manslaughter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    What I don't understand is that vets will put sick dogs or cats down because it's considered 'humane.' Even though they can't express their wishes it's the general consensus that it would be more humane to put them down than to let to them live.

    Meanwhile humans that are suffering from long term illnesses and would rather die are forced to stay alive until they die naturally. Why would it not be considered more humane to allow a doctor to put humans down too?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    I do in theory. But how do you measure the quality of life (or lack of) regarding illness.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    What I don't understand is that vets will put sick dogs or cats down because it's considered 'humane.' Even though they can't express their wishes it's the general consensus that it would be more humane to put them down than to let to them live.

    Meanwhile humans that are suffering from long term illnesses and would rather die are forced to stay alive until they die naturally. Why would it not be considered more humane to allow a doctor to put humans down too?
    how many 24 hours vets do you know ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    for anybody who is terminal definitely.
    for others on merit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kells...


    tunedout wrote: »
    does anybody know where to buy earphones for a mobile phone i saw a guy listening to music on his phone

    *Stumbles into wrong part of forum*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭Peep O'Day


    It's a tough one but I think there would be too much room for exploitation if it was legalised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    I agree with euthanasia in the definate, terminal cases. But it would always be exploited - it's completely inevitable that loopholes and such would be found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Yes, Definitly. It is cruel to leave someone suffer so harshly and a waste of medication and hospital resources to boot.
    I cant see how it could be exploited if we had rules and regulations concerning it.

    But in a backasswards country such as this, where you cant even choose to have an abortion this will never happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    RichieC wrote: »
    In principle, yes.

    In practice, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I think it should be legal if your sick or not. If you want to go thats your choice. I too would worry that it could be abused but I think if the proper regulations were put in place I can't see how it could be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Sulmac


    It should be, along the lines of the legislation they have in the Netherlands:
    The law allows medical review board to suspend prosecution of doctors who performed euthanasia when each of the following conditions is fulfilled:
    • the patient's suffering is unbearable with no prospect of improvement
    • the patient's request for euthanasia must be voluntary and persist over time (the request cannot be granted when under the influence of others, psychological illness or drugs)
    • the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects and options
    • there must be consultation with at least one other independent doctor who needs to confirm the conditions mentioned above
    • the death must be carried out in a medically appropriate fashion by the doctor or patient, in which case the doctor must be present
    • the patient is at least 12 years old (patients between 12 and 16 years of age require the consent of their parents)

    I don't agree with the Swiss model, which seems to be a bit of a free-for-all (and encourages suicide tourism).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    GarIT wrote: »
    I think it should be legal if your sick or not. If you want to go thats your choice. I too would worry that it could be abused but I think if the proper regulations were put in place I can't see how it could be.

    Type lawyer into google...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Sulmac wrote: »
    the Swiss model, which seems to be a bit of a free-for-all (and encourages suicide tourism).

    I cant see what is the great hang up people have about drug/sex/suicide/whatever tourism.

    Why is tourism deemed to be fine and dandy so long as the "tourists" dont avail of any product/service legally available to residents of ones own country but not the tourists ?

    Maybe customers should be required to produce passports before being served in pubs/off licences/nightclubs in order to prove theyre not Saudi Arabian "drink tourists" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Sulmac


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    I cant see what is the great hang up people have about drug/sex/suicide/whatever tourism.

    Why is tourism deemed to be fine and dandy so long as the "tourists" dont avail of any product/service legally available to citizens of ones own country but not the tourists ?

    Good point, though I think that governments should just have the balls to legislate on controversial issues rather than depending on other countries to do it for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Type lawyer into google...

    I meant the doctors abusing it, if your own choice they would be no need for the people to abuse it. If someone chooses to die nobody else should have the right to stop them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 843 ✭✭✭maygitchell


    Should it be legal?


    Over my dead body


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    We should adopt a system based on the German T4 Euthanasia programme of the 1930's and 1940's. It proved to be most effective.

    /Evil Nazi Trollface


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭AulBiddy


    tunedout wrote: »
    does anybody know where to buy earphones for a mobile phone i saw a guy listening to music on his phone

    Your username is appropriate to your post.
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    Most definitely yes, I can think of no reason for it to be illegal. We allow people to put their dogs down when they are in agony yet we somehow see it moral to watch our fellow human beings die slow painful deaths.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Yes i should be!! I would hate to , through an accident or somthing turn into a vegtable, and have to just sit there ****ting myself and not being able to communicate with anyone for 40+ years, that would be sheer torture and just cruel . I wouldl want to die.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    We need suicide booths!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Yes i should be!! I would hate to , through an accident or somthing turn into a vegtable, and have to just sit there ****ting myself and not being able to communicate with anyone for 40+ years, that would be sheer torture and just cruel . I wouldl want to die.

    In this case I think it would be no harm to have some sort of legal document which you can sign, on condition you are over 18, stating that in the event of this happening to you, you would rather be given an injection which would put you to sleep - definately would not want to live like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭vampire of kilmainham


    yes it should be legal and thats it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Hitler thought it was OK.
    Franco thought it was OK
    Mussolini thought it was OK
    Japonees thought it was OK
    Chineese thought it was OK
    So it must be OK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    For people who are terminally ill and spending the last few weeks/ months in immense pain, then yes, definitely!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    In fairness it's only going to be terminally ill people and the like availing of this. If you're able bodied you could just do it the old fashioned way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie




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