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Are there any movies that satisfy this rule
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14-10-2011 8:00pm#1
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Thelma and Louise? The titular ladies do, at times, talk about more serious matters than Brad Pitt's Abs.
Miss Congeniality II has the two leads discussing the case they're trying to solve: the kidnapping of a woman (Miss United States).
I see the point, though: most films seem to be about men making a mess, and if there are women around, they're the ones who have to clean up the mess afterwards.
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I saw that too, not sure what that has to do with what I said. They're not in a movie, after all... not unless the movie is Bound, a movie I could not watch all they way through, but which might fit the bill. :rolleyes:Am I the only one who spotted that the two characters in the comic appear to be a lesbian couple?You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.
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I saw that too, not sure what that has to do with what I said. They're not in a movie, after all... not unless the movie is Bound, a movie I could not watch all they way through, but which might fit the bill. :rolleyes:
I guess I was trying to imply the comic was some sort of feminist anti-male propaganda
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There's thousands of films which don't satisfy this rule, it's better to find films that don't satisfy it!It's called The Bechdel Test
Found this on stumble upon last week: http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/10-famous-films-that-surprisingly-fail-the-bechdel-test.php
Pretty interesting stuff
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So?I'm pretty sure the 2 female characters in Alien talked to each other about at least one of the several male characters in it at some point.
The rule is that they have to talk about something other than a man, not that they can't ever talk about a man.
Rom Coms are out because the main focus is women vrs men. But msot other films appear to satisfy it.
Yes, that's actually the whole point of the "Rule".Am I the only one who spotted that the two characters in the comic appear to be a lesbian couple?
The name of the comicstrip is "Dykes to Watch Out For"
Which was named after the above comic, it was drawn by Alison Bechdel.It's called The Bechdel Test.0 -
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Playing Devil's advocate she could apply the exact same logic substituting two women for:- Two people over 50 talking about something that doesn't involve talking about people under 50, for more than one minute.
- Two black people talking about something that doesn't involve talking about non-black people, for more than one minute.
- Two ugly people talking about something that doesn't involve pretty people, for more than one minute.
- Two non-US people talking about something that doesn't involve US people, for more than one minute.
- Two overweight people talking about something that doesn't involve thin people, for more than one minute.
- Two bald people talking about something that doesn't involve people with hair, for more than one minute.
0 - Two people over 50 talking about something that doesn't involve talking about people under 50, for more than one minute.
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As a test of perceived institutional and mainstream bias, it's something perhaps worthy of a bit of thought. But applied to cinema as a 'whole', it kind of falls apart. Martha Marcy..., Margaret, Meek's Cutoff, Guilty of Romance (well, that one's a complex argument
) Confessions, Poetry, A Separation: all among the last twelve month's most brilliant films, and all featuring strong female leads placed in unusual and well-considered circumstances.
It's an interesting argument on one hand, certainly when applied to consensus Hollywood opinion. But there are still tonnes of great roles for women - you just, like always, have to step outside the box to experience.0 -
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »As a test of perceived institutional and mainstream bias, it's something perhaps worthy of a bit of thought. But applied to cinema as a 'whole', it kind of falls apart. Martha Marcy..., Margaret, Meek's Cutoff, Guilty of Romance (well, that one's a complex argument) Confessions, Poetry, A Separation: all among the last twelve month's most brilliant films, and all featuring strong female leads placed in unusual and well-considered circumstances.
It's an interesting argument on one hand, certainly when applied to consensus Hollywood opinion. But there are still tonnes of great roles for women - you just, like always, have to step outside the box to experience.
Yes outside the mainstream it's definitely better. But just because you could name a few doesn't mean that it's not a problem, because no one is saying that NO movies pass the test. I'd say even if you looked at the movies in the IFI or the Screen (usually better than what you'd find in the the multiplexes) for the past 6 months, the films that pass would be a minority.
And remember that if you're thinking that for movies to have a fair representation of women, then about half the movies out there should pass the test, then you're misunderstanding the test. The test is for the MINIMUM meaningful presence of female characters, so ideally more than half should pass or even the majority (although no one's saying all movies should pass because a lot of movies wouldn't logically focus on any women).
If you're a guy, can you even imagine what it would like if things were the other way around? If there was a test about whether a movie had two male characters who talk to each other about something other than a woman, and most movies failed it? If it was actually hard to come up with a list of movies with developed male characters? If you looked at lists of the top grossing movies, top rated movies, most popular movies, most awarded movies and most of them failed the test?? Can't you see how weird that would be??0 -
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