A free new non-commercial cycling magazine

Grace Johnson

Hello cyclists,


I’ve just put out the first issue of a new digital international bicycle touring magazine.
It’s called; Bicycle Traveler and you can download it for free at: www.bicycletraveler.nl . I hope you enjoy it!





Happy trails,
Grace Johnson

vektarman

Bicycle traveller. fixed.

Grace Johnson

You can spell it both ways; traveler and traveller.

tomasrojo

Grace Johnson wrote: »

You can spell it both ways; traveler and traveller.

Indeed you can.

The only trouble I can see with this American spelling reform (when forming a gerund or noun from verbs that end in a consonant to omit to double that final consonant), is that words such as "scraping" are ambiguous ('scrape' or 'scrap'?).

The American spelling is probably the more common one globally and as such is probably the right one for an international publication.

Cookie_Monster

tomasrojo wrote: »

The American spelling is probably the more common one globally and as such is probably the right one for an international publication.

God no. Americans speak American, we all speak English. There are subtle but noticeable differences

I for one, will never ride an a-loooo-mih-num bike

rich.d.berry

Well done! Some incredible photographs. Haven't had time to read the stories yet, but skimmed through a few. The quality of the writing matches that of the photography.

tomasrojo

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

God no. Americans speak American, we all speak English. There are subtle but noticeable differences

I for one, will never ride an a-loooo-mih-num bike

But you're happy to receive a gift of platinum, rather than platinium?

The discoverer of that element, Humphry Davy, called it aluminum. Somebody else "corrected" it for him.

daragh_

Well done. Great content and photography

If I'm honest the layout and typography let's the images and text down a bit. Also if you are delivering it primarily as a PDF then you might consider changing the format to a more screen friendly landscape format. In my experience very few people actually print these things out.

Needs more Blorg.

tomasrojo

rich.d.berry wrote: »

Well done! Some incredible photographs. Haven't had time to read the stories yet, but skimmed through a few. The quality of the writing matches that of the photography.

rich.d.berry

tomasrojo wrote: »

The stories I skimmed through had good quality writing and I want to read more.

I made a judgement based on a small sample.

tomasrojo

Ah, ok.

Oldlegs

daragh_ wrote: »

Well done. Great content and photography
if you are delivering it primarily as a PDF then you might consider changing the format to a more screen friendly landscape format. In my experience very few people actually print these things out.

Needs more Blorg.

The PDF opens up as a nice two-page spread which allows for great scanning and better use of real estate for pics. But that may not work on all screen sizes.

Single page, landscape, for example works much better for smaller screen sizes, especially phones etc.


Great look and feel.

daragh_

Oldlegs wrote: »

Single page, landscape, for example works much better for smaller screen sizes, especially phones etc.

Good point. Type is gank though

kincsem

The content is interesting, the photos are excellent. I would like more text, with smaller photos. Perhaps you could then have bigger versions of the photos linked elsewhere.

The problem is the layout. I read it at 100% size. The double pages were difficult to navigate. The font was not good, to narrow, tall, thin. I like Calibri font.

The equipment tips were good. More of that please. And I would like a full listing of the bikes, tyres, gearing, bags, navigation (GPS/maps) and so on.

I liked the story about the man who cycled Africa in the 1930s.

spyderski

Its Traveller. At least in English anyway. I have an old Cannondale that has "Aluminum" written on the top tube. Still bothers me after 19 years.

tomasrojo

spyderski wrote: »

Its Traveller. At least in English anyway. I have an old Cannondale that has "Aluminum" written on the top tube. Still bothers me after 19 years.

No, it's both.

At least the title wasn't "Traveling Bicyclist".

Cookie_Monster

tomasrojo wrote: »

No, it's both.

At least the title wasn't "Traveling Bicyclist".

no, it's not. Only in American English

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Doubled_consonants

otherwise it's always "ll" in proper English

But at least it's not in Dutch

tomasrojo

They're both valid. The magazine decided to use American spelling. Why not? Far more people use it globally. It's not a British publication.

Why Irish people so passionately defend a British standard is an interesting quirk. The notion that British English is "proper" English is not really tenable either. Both American English and British English have changed a lot since they branched. American English has actually retained some older features,such as having past participles like "gotten", and retaining more Germanic words like "fall" instead of "autumn", and retaining the more phonetic "-ize" verb endings that the British changed relatively recently. You could construct an equally persuasive case for American English being "proper" English on those and similar grounds.

From a marketing point of view, why wouldn't you use the spelling system that is familiar to a larger number of readers.

In fact, from now on, I'm using American spelling when posting here.

Lumen

tomasrojo wrote: »

The notion that British English is "proper" English is not really tenable either.

"English". The clue is in the title.

tomasrojo

People in Mexico speak Spanish. American English is as much descended from English spoken in England in the 1500s and later as British English is.

Do the Portuguese carry on this way too, I wonder? Brazilian Portuguese is spoken by far more people, but I wonder whether the speakers in Portugal feign ridicule when they come across variations in what is now the majority variant.

Lumen

tomasrojo wrote: »

People in Mexico speak Spanish. American English is as much descended from English spoken in England in the 1500s and later as British English is.

Do the Portuguese carry on this way too, I wonder? Brazilian Portuguese is spoken by far more people, but I wonder whether the speakers in Portugal feign ridicule when they come across variations in what is now the majority variant.

I'm not ridiculing anything, but English English is proper English. As spoken by Princess Cheryl of Newcastle-Upon-Tyne.

tomasrojo

http://languages-of-the-world.blogspot.com/2011/07/bbc-enquires-why-do-some-americanisms.html

Fallacy #2: British English is "the original version of the English language". The proponents of this view assume that British English is closer to the way English was in "the good old days", before the establishment of the United States. In other words, they believe that Shakespeare spoke "propah" BBC English. As we've already discussed, Standard American English is in many respects closer to Elizabethan English than BBC English is. Shakespeare himself probably sounded more like a Midwesterner than a posh Londoner today. And it's not just the pronunciation. Vocabularies and grammars too have changed on both sides of the Atlantic. For the great bard, both the hood and the bonnet referred to articles of clothing, not parts of a motorcar.

Probably not what you're arguing, Lumen. But I don't know exactly what "proper" means in this context. That it's the most valid variant?

This isn't really about cycling, is it?

Lumen

tomasrojo wrote: »

http://languages-of-the-world.blogspot.com/2011/07/bbc-enquires-why-do-some-americanisms.html

Probably not what you're arguing, Lumen

No. I'm arguing that English English is by definition more English than any other sort of English.

tomasrojo

But that assumes that the language "English" is so called, because it belongs to England. It's so called because it originated in England. The English no more own it than the Irish or the Americans. Americans clearly speak English, and it's perfectly valid version, and it's as carefully standardized as British English.

Dermot Illogical

I enjoyed reading the magazine. Some very nice photos too.

rp

tomasrojo wrote: »

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Do the Portuguese carry on this way too, I wonder? Brazilian Portuguese is spoken by far more people, but I wonder whether the speakers in Portugal feign ridicule when they come across variations in what is now the majority variant.

They do! And don't get started on the French and Swiss/Belgium/Canadian French...

TheBlaaMan

Thanks for the magazine - its a great read and wonderful photos. The work put into the production of a magazine is considerable, all the moreso when it is free.!

recedite

tomasrojo wrote: »

At least the title wasn't "Traveling Bicyclist".

or Traveler on my Bike

Roadtoad

and the ads on P17 are a right mix-up of g/m2, pounds, feet, inches...and don't try using the serious end of the spork as a tire lever/tyre levier (old French).

dave_o_brien

tomasrojo wrote: »

But that assumes that the language "English" is so called, because it belongs to England. It's so called because it originated in England. The English no more own it than the Irish or the Americans. Americans clearly speak English, and it's perfectly valid version, and it's as carefully standardized as British English.

Chemicals are standardized too, by the IUPAC. They call the substance aluminium, although they still allow the use of it's variant, aluminum. But Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Ireland and the United Kingdom have chemical associations that approve the nomenclature of chemicals, and it's aluminium in the majority of the English speaking world. And non-English speaking world, too...

But I digress, the important thing here is that Humphry Davy did NOT call it aluminum. He called it alumium.

Oh, the magazine looks nice too.

tomasrojo

dave_o_brien wrote: »

But I digress, the important thing here is that Humphry Davy did NOT call it aluminum. He called it alumium.

True, initially, and then changed his mind and called it aluminum.

dave_o_brien

tomasrojo wrote: »

True, initially, and then changed his mind and called it aluminum.

Oh, fine then. And sure it was no time at all before Quarterly Review "standardized" it. And we've been arguing since! The big question is this; can you assume that a man who spelt Humphry with no 'e' was not dyslexic?!

rp

According to Bill Bryson, who knows everything:

A Short History of Nearly Everything wrote:

The confusion over the aluminum/aluminium spelling arose because of some uncharacteristic indecisiveness on [Humphry] Davy's part. When he first isolated the element in 1808, he called it alumium. For some reason he thought better of that and changed it to aluminum four years later. Americans dutifully adopted the new term, but many British users disliked aluminum, pointing out that it disrupted the -ium pattern established by sodium, calcium, and strontium, so they added a vowel and syllable.

Lumen

rp wrote: »

According to Bill Bryson, who knows everything

British pedantry beats American dithering. :pac:

biketard

Boy, this thread hasn't gone off-topic much, has it?

Great magazine, Grace. Thanks for posting.

thebouldwhacker

Im glad you ladies sorted out yer differences, Thought I'd bump this, any news on the jan issue of the mag?

justo

Grace Johnson wrote: »

Hello cyclists,


I’ve just put out the first issue of a new digital international bicycle touring magazine.
It’s called; Bicycle Traveler and you can download it for free at: www.bicycletraveler.nl . I hope you enjoy it!





Happy trails,
Grace Johnson

Thank you for posting this. Lovely publication. I've subscribed.

tomasrojo

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

Im glad you ladies sorted out yer differences

Are you implying that women are excessively quarrelsome?

(I'm trying out trolling with an outdated vocabulary, gadzooks!)

thebouldwhacker

I was simply making comment that after the op presented the good and the great of Boards with a gift of a free mag saying 'here, my work and a window into my soul for free because we share the same passion' the first thing that happened was a query re spelling followed by a debate over the (completely off topic) usage and history of aluminum vs aluminium
My use of the word 'ladies; was therefore more of a Gunnery Sergeant Hartman moment than an outright sexist insult (Hartman famously fell out with Contador due to a mix up over what the 'finger bang' meant), or my mistaking the quarrelsome posters as being female......

There should be a scary picture of said Sergeant from full metal jacket here
making my post fantastically hilarious but the Nanny on the interweb said I'm not allowed!!!

tomasrojo

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

the first thing that happened was a query re spelling followed by a debate over the (completely off topic) usage and history of aluminum vs aluminium

It certainly went wildly off-topic. I guess, to go with RLJ and helmet threads, we now must fear 'Al' threads.

I see the "Aluminium" page on Wikipedia is locked, and I think I know why!

Keep_Her_Lit

tomasrojo wrote: »

I guess, to go with RLJ and helmet threads, we now must fear 'Al' threads.

And Hi-Viz threads, of course. Or should that be High-Vis?