rutting buck

hunterpajero

was out for a stalk this morn,heard a buck grunting in full swing just beside a young plantation where i shoot,i got within 150yds but couldnt get a shot off the bipods at him,i had to stand up and with that a doe that i never saw at the far side of the hedge gave a bark,stalk ruined again,the buck took off running to the wood to the left of me with his 5 does and stooped just at the edge of the wood at 80yds,i had a quick heart and lung shot fired but missed off the shoulder,my question is will he be back this eve or saturday morn,he was on his ruttinn stand?

garv123

hunterpajero wrote: »

was out for a stalk this morn,heard a buck grunting in full swing just beside a young plantation where i shoot,i got within 150yds but couldnt get a shot off the bipods at him,i had to stand up and with that a doe that i never saw at the far side of the hedge gave a bark,stalk ruined again,the buck took off running to the wood to the left of me with his 5 does and stooped just at the edge of the wood at 80yds,i had a quick heart and lung shot fired but missed off the shoulder,my question is will he be back this eve or saturday morn,he was on his ruttinn stand?

Should have left him off and not taken the shot and he might have been back again that evening. The sound of gunfire could have him very alert for danger for a while.

hunterpajero

i know i know,but he is a big lad,he turned just as i was squeezing the trigger,would it be to soon to wait in this evening or best to wait untill saturday?

deerhunter1

hunterpajero wrote: »

i know i know,but he is a big lad,he turned just as i was squeezing the trigger,would it be to soon to wait in this evening or best to wait untill saturday?

No I doubt it, he will hang around local, he will be more alert but well worth keeping a eye out,

hunterpajero

i know i shouldnt have fired and left him for another day,oh temptation,just roll on november god help that melanistic doe that barked

Feidhlim Dignan

hunterpajero wrote: »

i know i shouldnt have fired and left him for another day,oh temptation,just roll on november god help that melanistic doe that barked

why not leave her to produce more of the same colour?

hunterpajero

there is a lot of melanistic coloration here around the ground i shoot on,she is not the only one around

fallowbuck

They are quiet common in tipp north and south and waterford small amount in the east cork area there are a few about nice to see.

Tackleberry.

hunterpajero wrote: »

stoped just at the edge of the wood at 80yds,i had a quick heart and lung shot fired but missed off the shoulder,my question is will he be back this eve or saturday morn,he was on his ruttinn stand?

How sure are you that you missed heart and lung (engine shot as I call it) aint going to always stop them in there track you give a good look around for blood as he could be in the wood?? should of went high shoulder/neck shot

hunterpajero

yes 100% positive that i missed,he turned as i was firing,there was no thump report sound hitting him instead the bullet hitting the wood,still followed up the shot and no blood or hair to be found,didnt get a chance to go back this eve but we will have a date saturday morn:)

hunterpajero

oh what a disaster,went for him again yesterday and not a sight or sound of him only a bout three year old buck at the plantation,had gun resting on a stake and fired at him heart and lungs at 110yds and never even tickled him,wtf like,went on then again yesterday and missed two more bucks after that,what a disaster of aday,came home and checked the rifle and was firing roughly 4 inches to the left,i adjusted the scope and then it was firing 3 inches to the right,i fired seven shots at the target yesterday and could not get them to group at all,the nearest grouping i got was bout one and a half to two inches,anyone any suggestions??

iwsf

4 inches to the left would still be on "target" if you were aiming at the heart. Would hit i suppose the shoulder.
Are you sure you missed them ?
Shot a hind last year at about 150 m , heart in 2 pieces. She still stood up (she was lying) as if nothing happened and made 20 meters before dropping. So i guess a buck during the rut could go a long way especially if you missed the lungs and heart.

hunterpajero

yes again 100% misses i follow up all my shots,talking to glensman there he reckons it could be the crown of the barrell,im going investagating now to see,hopefully i can pin point the problem and prat the problem is not me:(

endasmail

what set up are you using?

had siimiliar with my set up ,it ended up with my scope being faulty
so ended up sending to back to meopta to be serviced and fixed

not a bother on it now

garv123

what scope are you using? maybe its not holding zero

PippaSpaniel

Hi hunterpajero, What type of set up do you have?? rifle,calibre, scope and what range do you zero your rifle at??

hunterpajero

im using a 8x56 schmidt and bender 1inch klassik on tikka 243 walnut stock,scopes seems to be fine,no dents or scratches mystery after that lads

hunterpajero

PippaSpaniel wrote: »

Hi hunterpajero, What type of set up do you have?? rifle,calibre, scope and what range do you zero your rifle at??

i sight it in at 100yds centre i dont leave it at an inch or two high at this

garv123

Have you a mod on it that could be loose?
check that the rings are nto after coming loose on the scope or if you have a different scope try that.
Even though a S&B should last decades.

hunterpajero

garv123 wrote: »

Have you a mod on it that could be loose?
check that the rings are nto after coming loose on the scope or if you have a different scope try that.
Even though a S&B should last decades.

no dont have a moderator and its not threaded i tightened the mounts yesterday before i went to set it everything seems fine,yes i agree the s&b rarely if ever give trouble

PippaSpaniel

Sounds like you have a good set up there no question about that!!! are u firing rounds in quick succession or letting the barrel cool before each shot?? You shud be getting half inch groups with it asuming the barrel is not fouled completely.Also i have a 243 and you would be better off necking any deer with it,from experience it knocks them down and they won,t be getting up. I hope u get it sorted.

hunterpajero

PippaSpaniel wrote: »

Sounds like you have a good set up there no question about that!!! are u firing rounds in quick succession or letting the barrel cool before each shot?? You shud be getting half inch groups with it asuming the barrel is not fouled completely.Also i have a 243 and you would be better off necking any deer with it,from experience it knocks them down and they won,t be getting up. I hope u get it sorted.

no i can only fire two rounds and have to let it cool for ten min or that,the third shot is always out by a few inches if i dont otherwise,ive shot deer red fallow and sika neck and lung shots and have stopped 99% of them,well thats if i hit em:mad:by anychance could it be the box of bullets im firing,all misses have being from the same box and the shots at the target yesterday were from that box aswell

PippaSpaniel

What type of ammo are you using ? With my Tikka i found federals and hornadys very good!! You will have to try out another box of ammo to be sure.

tfox

Is it a floating barrel ?

If so check its not touching the forend anywhere as this will put your shot off by a fair bit.

Last year b4 the season I was having all sorts of trouble grouping mine, cudnt get it within 5 inches, turned out it was slightly rubbing the forend with mod on and on bi-pod due to flexible forend.

I stiffened up the forend, no there is no way the barrel can touch it and it's
1/2 inch at 100 when I put my mind to it :rolleyes:

hunterpajero

im using federal soft point 80grain,i havent had any problems with these before,i get a box tomorrow in thurles and i know then for sure

PippaSpaniel

Make sure the stock is bedded in right as well. and that there is no movement.Other than that i don,t know

hunterpajero wrote: »

no i can only fire two rounds and have to let it cool for ten min or that,the third shot is always out by a few inches if i dont otherwise,ive shot deer red fallow and sika neck and lung shots and have stopped 99% of them,well thats if i hit em:mad:by anychance could it be the box of bullets im firing,all misses have being from the same box and the shots at the target yesterday were from that box aswell

hunterpajero

ya its a free floating barrell and ive put a A4 sheet up threw it no problems

hunterpajero

im gona strip it down tomorrow and start from scratch and try the new ammo,fingers crossed

tomcat220t

Is there any damage to the crown ,even the slightest damage will have it all over the spot ?Was the barrel ever shot with water or cleaning oils in it ?Sounds like it needs another person with a fresh set of eyes and a clear mind to look at it.Maybe a gunsmith .

hunterpajero

stripped down my rifle last week and gave it a thorough cleaning,took off scope mounts and barrel,i reasembled it and put the shoy saver threw it,went to the field and fired 3 shots was all to get it zeroed,finally confidence was back...and here is the final result,the rutting buck

iwsf

glad for you you got it sorted
At least you made that rutting buck a happy one......for the time being at least.

hunterpajero

hunterpajero

iwsf

thinking about it he doesn't look too happy
nice buck

hunterpajero

he had his few days of glory:Dtime to let another lucky fellow take over his women