ICT jobs in Revenue

NWPat

Revenue.ie is advertising jobs for experienced ICT people and graduates in ICT. Jobs will be at AO level, salary starts at about 30k. Good luck teckies.

MysticalRain

Are these software or hardware related jobs?

NWPat

If you go to :http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/careers.html it gives all the info.

Zipppy

Anyone apply for these ? Deadline was yesterday.....my App is in ..fingers crossed :rolleyes:

msg11

Zipppy wrote: »

Anyone apply for these ? Deadline was yesterday.....my App is in ..fingers crossed :rolleyes:

Was just reading what they are looking for, someone with a level 8 honours degree in IT. Sadly I don't have one, but best of luck to those that applied..

starlit

Ya I applied, haven't heard anything yet. Fingers crossed!

Zipppy

doovdela wrote: »

Ya I applied, haven't heard anything yet. Fingers crossed!

Monday was closing date..I'd say there were thousands of applications...

Starting pay is crap, if you're not an existing PS, which I am....would an experienced IT professional happily start on 29k ???

Saganist

Zipppy wrote: »

Monday was closing date..I'd say there were thousands of applications...

Starting pay is crap, if you're not an existing PS, which I am....would an experienced IT professional happily start on 29k ???

Starting pay aint great, but the increments are quite generous.



Good luck guys..

starlit

Zipppy wrote: »

Monday was closing date..I'd say there were thousands of applications...

Starting pay is crap, if you're not an existing PS, which I am....would an experienced IT professional happily start on 29k ???

I am a recent IT Graduate with IT work experience so its the graduate role I am hoping to get. Ya it was. Just happened to get it in on time. Pity it couldn't just been emailed rather than posted. All that printing and writing, there was a lot in the application form took a while to get it done.

Say there will be a lot of applications I'd imagine they will have a cut off point so not everyone will get interviewed.

29k isn't bad now, I be happy enough with that myself for a graduate salary but I suppose for an experience professional you'd expect more. There are just more cuts now in the civil public service so think a certain salary will be main-streamed for everyone.

Good luck to everyone else!

mickman

good money to start with in fairness

knowing the revenue though - u wud prob be just sitting down doing nothing

Saganist

mickman wrote: »

good money to start with in fairness

knowing the revenue though - u wud prob be just sitting down doing nothing

Not a chance mate..

tenchi-fan

Saganist wrote: »

Not a chance mate..

:rolleyes:

MysticalRain

Revenue run a tight ship from what I've heard.

jd83

mickman wrote: »

good money to start with in fairness

knowing the revenue though - u wud prob be just sitting down doing nothing

You will go through their recruitment process, show off all your i.t related skills and qualifications, get the job and then end up in paye or something absolutely nothing to do with your skills. Revenue will end up hiring a load ao who end up sitting around getting paid more and doing a clerical officers job.

However Ive had the joy of working on various temporary civil service contracts, Revenue would be by far the best run ive seen even though it is so inefficient.

NWPat

jd83 wrote: »

You will go through their recruitment process, show off all your i.t related skills and qualifications, get the job and then end up in paye or something absolutely nothing to do with your skills. Revenue will end up hiring a load ao who end up sitting around getting paid more and doing a clerical officers job.

However Ive had the joy of working on various temporary civil service contracts, Revenue would be by far the best run ive seen even though it is so inefficient.

This previous post is a crock of sh*te. If you get one of these positions you will be employed as an IT specialist (AO equivelent) and will never be asked to do CO duties. It is amazing, that in these times, there are still people offering up such banal rantings in an attempt to de motivate those wishing to improve their own situations.

Nolanger

Put it this way, if Revenue need some new app written in Java etc they will more than likely hire in consultants. The AO will not usually be doing this work regardless of the skills shown off at the interview.

BostonB

I guess it would depend where you are in the public sector. Where I've been theres been a mix of contractors and internal staff doing development. But certainly the plan (where I've been) is to move to use contractors more. Simply because there isn't the resources internally. Theres probably a policy somewhere in Revenue that states what their plan is.

NWPat

Nolanger wrote: »

Put it this way, if Revenue need some new app written in Java etc they will more than likely hire in consultants. The AO will not usually be doing this work regardless of the skills shown off at the interview.

Again, no truth in this statement at all. The vacancies are for IT specialists not general servive AO's. General service AO's would never have and never will do this job but IT specialists will. The closing date for applications has passed now so no one can be put off by mis infomation of this ilk.

BostonB

Slightly off topic, but whats it like in IT in the reset of the CS, from anyone thats worked there?

Saganist

BostonB wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but whats it like in IT in the reset of the CS, from anyone thats worked there?

Ive only worked in IT in Revenue, but have to say that its probably the most IT'centric PS body that there is.

Zipppy

Anyone hear anything yet??

starlit

No not yet.

Milk & Honey

BostonB wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but whats it like in IT in the reset of the CS, from anyone thats worked there?

Mixed bag. Mostly bad.

Zipppy

BostonB wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but whats it like in IT in the reset of the CS, from anyone thats worked there?

IT in local authorities is a joke......first hand experience :mad:

miju

Nolanger wrote: »

Put it this way, if Revenue need some new app written in Java etc they will more than likely hire in consultants. The AO will not usually be doing this work regardless of the skills shown off at the interview.

wont be the case for much longer in any Dept really given the ridiculous cost of IT consultants in the PS

boobar

miju wrote: »

wont be the case for much longer in any Dept really given the ridiculous cost of IT consultants in the PS

I agree with Miju on this, Departments are under pressure to reduce budgets so in the past where external contractors would have been drafted in to complete complex programming tasks, more is being asked of Departmental staff in this area now. I believe that there will be lots more asked in the future so funding on training in this area will be available for those who are fortunate enough to get one of these positions. I think this is a good job for someone who wants to develop these skills.

BostonB

Rather than contractors they might simply outsource the projects entirely. Isn't that a possibility too?

boobar

BostonB wrote: »

Rather than contractors they might simply outsource the projects entirely. Isn't that a possibility too?

Anything is possible I suppose BostonB, but in my view many public service organisations did not focus on developing these skills during the boom times. Now that money has dried up there is a push on (better late than never) to have staff develop these skills. Market rates for programmers are rising so the public service has to look at cheaper options. The entire outsourcing of these projects is unlikely in my view as the project management & business analysis of systems is mainly carried out by in house staff at a reasonable cost. It just seems to be the programming element that is lacking.

miju

BostonB wrote: »

Rather than contractors they might simply outsource the projects entirely. Isn't that a possibility too?

Thats whars being done at present and to say the taxpayer is being sickeningly over charged to point of millions is an understatement

Zipppy

I'm assuming we'll be ages waiting on this as I'd say there were thousands of applications

BostonB

miju wrote: »

Thats whars being done at present and to say the taxpayer is being sickeningly over charged to point of millions is an understatement

That the downside of a recruitment embargo. The advantage is you won't have to pay pensions or keep them on between projects.

BostonB

Zipppy wrote: »

I'm assuming we'll be ages waiting on this as I'd say there were thousands of applications

A few short years back people would have said anyone working in IT would be crazy to move into the public sector. We're I was we got almost no Irish or EU applicants for IT roles in the public sector.

miju

BostonB wrote: »

That the downside of a recruitment embargo. The advantage is you won't have to pay pensions or keep them on between projects.

would still be cheaper paying an established civil servant their pensions and keeping them on after a project than paying these mental fees tbh

Zipppy

miju wrote: »

would still be cheaper paying an established civil servant their pensions and keeping them on after a project than paying these mental fees tbh

Apparently not the case..

I'm PS and the cost of upskilling and keeping skills relevant for ICT staff is deemed more expensive than paying daily rates of 600-800 for contractors..

Seems madness....:eek:

Government plans for eGov and shared services out on Thursday so might be some eye openers in there.....

miju

Zipppy wrote: »

Apparently not the case..

I'm PS and the cost of upskilling and keeping skills relevant for ICT staff is deemed more expensive than paying daily rates of 600-800 for contractors..

Seems madness....:eek:

I know it's actually hilarious even if the Govt were to pay for you privately it wouldn't cost anywhere near the €290,000 a year per consultant.

Zipppy

Just advised by email that I've been shortlisted for interview so it's happy dayz.................until interview day come :rolleyes:

boobar

Zipppy wrote: »

Just advised by email that I've been shortlisted for interview so it's happy dayz.................until interview day come :rolleyes:

Well done Zippy,

Best of luck with it.

alwayssideways

Zipppy wrote: »

Just advised by email that I've been shortlisted for interview so it's happy dayz.................until interview day come :rolleyes:

I havent heard anything back yet, but just wondering does anyone have a copy of the advertisement they had on their website regarding the job. Would like to give it a quick read if i did get called for an interview.

Thanks

Daxve

From Revenue's public service agreement action plan update today there are 30 AO ICT jobs available there will also be a further competition later on for 10 EO ICT jobs.

Given 30 jobs available the shortlist for interview would be about 200. Good luck to all that are called. You will be sent any information you need about the job prior to the interview. If it's like most other Revenue interviews you will fill out an application based around 4 competancies required for the job which you submit before hand and your interview will be based on this you may also have to give a short presentation.

SLDeviant

Daxve wrote: »

From Revenue's public service agreement action plan update today there are 30 AO ICT jobs available there will also be a further competition later on for 10 EO ICT jobs.

Given 30 jobs available the shortlist for interview would be about 200. Good luck to all that are called. You will be sent any information you need about the job prior to the interview. If it's like most other Revenue interviews you will fill out an application based around 4 competancies required for the job which you submit before hand and your interview will be based on this you may also have to give a short presentation.

Do you have a link to where they posted that? I'm fairly certain the interviews only ran long enough to accomodate 100 or so interviewees so if they are hiring 30 that would put your chances pretty high if you got as far as the interview.

EDIT> Found the link to the document, wow, that's great news.