True sportsmanship!

EdMoses

Just came across this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wQLEKw0Nkc&feature=feedlik Pretty amazing if you ask me. Would it happen today? I think not.

corny

He stopped because he knew he could catch up.

RoyMcC

corny wrote: »

He stopped because he knew he could catch up.

Begrudgery is alive and kicking :mad:

TFBubendorfer

corny wrote: »

He stopped because he knew he could catch up.

That's an appalling comment.

EdMoses wrote: »

Would it happen today? I think not.

Paolo Di Canio catching the ball in the Everton penalty area when he saw that the keeper was injured comes to mind.

nerraw1111

Not sure it would happen today given there is so much at stake re money/sponsorship due to people now making a living from the sport. I presume Landy went back to the day job after that race?

I'm reminded of the Ironman New Zealand race in 1990, which I just recently watched. http://ironman.com/columns/ironmanlife/ian-heppenstall-recounts-the-closest-finish-in-ironman-history#axzz1aBFtQF1T

With the finish chute in sight, Ken Glah and Pauli Kiuru were shoulder to shoulder. Kiuru suddenly went the wrong way with Glah seemingly about to win the race by default. However, Kiuru rejoins the race route and bursts for the line and takes the win.

What was interesting was Glah's reaction. He went from thinking 'This is a horrible way to win' to

'It taught me a valuable lesson. I learned that I should have taken the opportunity when Pauli went off the course. This sport is not about who is fittest or fastest but who is the toughest mentally. Ironman is hugely mental. It was my dumb luck to have two punctures that day. It was his dumb luck to go the wrong way.

'I should have taken advantage and not felt guilty. I learned a big lesson that day on how to be mentally prepared to win a race.


If someone falls in a race and you didn't cause the trip, should you keep going? It's a different scenario in IMRA of course where you should see if someone is ok.

corny

RoyMcC wrote: »

Begrudgery is alive and kicking :mad:

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's an appalling comment.

A few touchy types in here so i'll go a bit further. I'm sure John Landys a lovely man and one of the best and most famous runners of all time but he knew he could catch up and pass the others with little bother. Would he stop in an Olympic final if Bannister was out in front and it cost him a medal? For me, probably not. Nice gesture all the same.

RoyMcC

Rubbish. You imagine Landy saw Clarke go down and his thoughts were 'I'll stop and help Ron here because it doesn't matter - I can easily make up those 30 metres and it'll look really good on the telly.'? Mightn't you think instead that it was a spontaneous sporting gesture? Cynicism or what.

It's irrelevant what he might have done in a different race.

longjump67

EdMoses wrote: »

Just came across this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wQLEKw0Nkc&feature=feedlik Pretty amazing if you ask me. Would it happen today? I think not.

Amazing gesture of sportsmanship alright, if it happened today he would probably be DQ'ed for stepping off the track, bloody red tape.

corny

RoyMcC wrote: »

Rubbish. You imagine Landy saw Clarke go down and his thoughts were 'I'll stop and help Ron here because it doesn't matter - I can easily make up those 30 metres and it'll look really good on the telly.'? Mightn't you think instead that it was a spontaneous sporting gesture? Cynicism or what.

It's irrelevant what he might have done in a different race.

Begging your pardon but it's very relevant. Same race conditions but higher stakes does the same thing happen? If no, then it almost certainly proves what i said first was correct - 'he stopped because he knew he could catch up'.

And no i don't think looking good on the telly came into it but he gave 30 metres away and won by 10 metres. I'm pretty sure he was aware of his superiority.

madon

I hate when you tube links are posted coz I get carried away watching related ones- found thishttp://youtu.be/kZlXWp6vFdE I don't remember seeing this at the time
Then I got reminded of Dick and Rick Hoyt who done the ironman and started watching videos on them now I'm a blubbering mess sitting here and I've no house work done!

SWL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxGNttpaZA

Jan Ullrich waiting for Armstrong when only seven seconds sperated them. need to watch it all to get the story.

Pisco Sour

There's a statue here in Melbourne dedicated to this moment. It's opposite the MCG, very close to Rod Laver Arena (where the tennis takes place) and the now demolished Olympic Park, where this piece of sportsmanship took place. Sad to see the stadium knocked. Collingwood FC (AFL team) knocked it and are turning it into a training ground. A travesty.

Brianderunner

SWL wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxGNttpaZA

Jan Ullrich waiting for Armstrong when only seven seconds sperated them. need to watch it all to get the story.

I remember Lance said in his book that he's not sure Ullrich waited for him. He also said he wasnt on drugs too of course :rolleyes:

Contador certainly didnt wait for schleck when his chain came off in last years Tour. Worst display of bad sportmanship i've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KbR5fyhRsU

SWL

Brianderunner wrote: »

I remember Lance said in his book that he's not sure Ullrich waited for him. He also said he wasnt on drugs too of course :rolleyes:

Contador certainly didnt wait for schleck when his chain came off in last years Tour. Worst display of bad sportmanship i've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KbR5fyhRsU

Hard to know if Jan waited it looked like he slowed down, for a big big man he could climb with the best.

Schleck attacked Contador and made a complete mess of things, had it been the other way round:) Contdor certainly knew something had gone wrong and still attacked so yes i would agree

Pisco Sour

Brianderunner wrote: »

I remember Lance said in his book that he's not sure Ullrich waited for him. He also said he wasnt on drugs too of course :rolleyes:

At which point his nose grew longer...

nerraw1111

Brianderunner wrote: »

I remember Lance said in his book that he's not sure Ullrich waited for him. He also said he wasnt on drugs too of course :rolleyes:

Contador certainly didnt wait for schleck when his chain came off in last years Tour. Worst display of bad sportmanship i've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KbR5fyhRsU

I'm not sure if its as straight forward as that. Theories abound that Schleck made a basic error rather than a case of bad luck and that Contador was right to go. Personally, I've no idea where I stand on that particular incident.

ThisRegard

The Schleck incident is an interesting one, Schleck dropped his chain purely due to his own mistake, no professional should do that. Whereas if it was mechanical like a puncture or broken chain it could be looked at in a different light.

In formula 1 would you expect a driver who made up a place due to the driver infront going wide at a corner to slow down and let the other driver ahead again ?

frankeee

ThisRegard wrote: »

The Schleck incident is an interesting one, Schleck dropped his chain purely due to his own mistake, no professional should do that. Whereas if it was mechanical like a puncture or broken chain it could be looked at in a different light.

In formula 1 would you expect a driver who made up a place due to the driver infront going wide at a corner to slow down and let the other driver ahead again ?

On the other end of the spectrum I love the story (not 100% sure if it's true, or exaggerated) of Sean Kelly in his amateur days when he was in a break with a buddy of his. Kelly had a mechanical of some sort & his friend waited for him. Apparently once sorted Kelly took advantage of a passing car & went straight past his friend and went on to win alone. When asked afterwards why he did it simply replied "I needed the money"