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  • 09-10-2011 3:39pm
    #1
    lahiffr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭


    So we've seen the Late Late show we've seen Vincent Browne what about TG4? Are we going to have a debate as Gaeilge? or anymore for that matter?


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  • #2
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    anymore doesn't debate ;)


  • #3
    thebman
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    Don't see the point in a debate in Irish TBH. Most of the country wouldn't know what they were saying and half of them probably wouldn't be able to do a debate in Irish.


  • #4
    Sunnyisland
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    Prime time on wednesday, another debate.


  • #5
    jonniebgood1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    Matt cooper has one on Today FM. I think it is this Tuesday.


  • #6
    Liam Byrne
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    Will the debates change anyone's minds, though?

    I know that I called it day one as Michael D being the best of a bad lot, and nothing I've seen changes that.

    If I was contemplating a 5th or 6th preference, maybe those would swap places, but since there are only 2 that I can vote for and since #2 won't ever catch up on #1 (either in my opinion or in the polls) it's a done deal.

    And I would think that those in the McG camp couldn't possibly be convinced, while anyone still supporting Norris is unlikely to change either.


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  • #7
    Turbine
    Site Banned Posts: 317 ✭✭Turbine


    lahiffr wrote: »
    what about TG4? Are we going to have a debate as Gaeilge? or anymore for that matter?
    thebman wrote: »
    Don't see the point in a debate in Irish TBH. Most of the country wouldn't know what they were saying and half of them probably wouldn't be able to do a debate in Irish.

    TG4 will be hosting a bilingual debate on Tuesday Oct 18 at 7pm.


  • #8
    blahfckingblah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    Turbine wrote: »
    TG4 will be hosting a bilingual debate on Tuesday Oct 18 at 7pm.
    just on that note, do all of the candidates themselves have fluent irish? asking more out of curiosity than anything else.


  • #9
    Turbine
    Site Banned Posts: 317 ✭✭Turbine


    blahfckingblah wrote: »
    just on that note, do all of the candidates themselves have fluent irish? asking more out of curiosity than anything else.

    No I doubt it, I think thats the logic behind having a bilingual debate instead of a full debate as Gaeilge. Under the rules, all 6 candidates (bar Dana) will be required to make their opening and closing statements as Gaeilge, and then they'll be allowed to speak freely either as Gaeilge nó as Béarla.

    For anyone interested, heres a full list of upcoming debates:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/debates-debates-everywhere-your-guide-to-the-remaining-aras-clashes-250240-Oct2011/


  • #10
    InchicoreDude
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    Turbine wrote: »
    No I doubt it, I think thats the logic behind having a bilingual debate instead of a full debate as Gaeilge. Under the rules, all 6 candidates (bar Dana) will be required to make their opening and closing statements as Gaeilge, and then they'll be allowed to speak freely either as Gaeilge nó as Béarla.

    For anyone interested, heres a full list of upcoming debates:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/debates-debates-everywhere-your-guide-to-the-remaining-aras-clashes-250240-Oct2011/


    Why is Dana excluded from the rules?


  • #11
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Turbine wrote: »
    No I doubt it, I think thats the logic behind having a bilingual debate instead of a full debate as Gaeilge. Under the rules, all 6 candidates (bar Dana) will be required to make their opening and closing statements as Gaeilge, and then they'll be allowed to speak freely either as Gaeilge nó as Béarla.

    For anyone interested, heres a full list of upcoming debates:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/debates-debates-everywhere-your-guide-to-the-remaining-aras-clashes-250240-Oct2011/

    Ah for god's sake, bilingual debate. What a waste of time. No one cares if they can speak Irish. I think Michael D. is the only one that can speak the language fluently and I suppose the others will be forced to say a few words in Irish....badly.

    The fact that it's going to be a bilingual debate demonstrates the uselessness of the language.


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  • #12
    Turbine
    Site Banned Posts: 317 ✭✭Turbine


    InchicoreDude wrote: »
    Why is Dana excluded from the rules?

    I meant she won't be included in the debate. Apparently she has "other engagements".


  • #13
    Turbine
    Site Banned Posts: 317 ✭✭Turbine


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Ah for god's sake, bilingual debate. What a waste of time. No one cares if they can speak Irish. I think Michael D. is the only one that can speak the language fluently and I suppose the others will be forced to say a few words in Irish....badly.

    The fact that it's going to be a bilingual debate demonstrates the uselessness of the language.

    It demonstrates that not all candidates are fluent in Irish. But at least they're having a go at it with whatever Irish they have.

    Whether you think the language is useful or not, plenty of people will be interested in it, and these new style of debates as Gaeilge will appeal to a lot of people, both fluent and non-fluent in Irish.


  • #14
    hotmail.com
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    Turbine wrote: »
    It demonstrates that not all candidates are fluent in Irish. But at least they're having a go at it with whatever Irish they have.

    Whether you think the language is useful or not, plenty of people will be interested in it, and these new style of debates as Gaeilge will appeal to a lot of people, both fluent and non-fluent in Irish.

    Plenty...you mean a few dozen people?


  • #15
    MadsL
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    Could anyone confirm if David Norris is an Irish speaker?


  • #16
    hotmail.com
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    Just to remind those that are interested, there is a radio debate today with all the candidates on the The Last Word on Today FM starting at 4.30.


  • #17
    dulpit
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    MadsL wrote: »
    Could anyone confirm if David Norris is an Irish speaker?

    Apparently he is, or at least he's made it look like he is...

    So in short, I don't know. But I think he might be.


  • #18
    tipptom
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    I would have thought that the head of the constituition should be able to speak the irish language.


  • #19
    jonniebgood1
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    tipptom wrote: »
    I would have thought that the head of the constituition should be able to speak the irish language.

    Why?


  • #20
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    MadsL wrote: »
    Could anyone confirm if David Norris is an Irish speaker?

    Good question
    I emailed his campaign but got no reply

    But that Labhrás Ó Murchú said himself and Norris often talk so it seems he is


  • #21
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    tipptom wrote: »
    I would have thought that the head of the constituition should be able to speak the irish language.
    Well the constituition is written in Irish and translated to English.They are representing ireland abroad,they should be able to speak in our native language,even the queen could do that.


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  • #22
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    tipptom wrote: »
    Well the constituition is written in Irish and translated to English.

    No, it wasn't. it was written in English and translated into Irish.

    The funny bit is that they then made the Irish version the primary one, so if there are any translation errors, the faulty version is the official one!


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