Rescue 169 before Rescue 115?

msg11

Just wondering why Rescue 169 RAF was doing a shout in the area Rescue 115 works in?

Was watching National Geo Sea Patrol UK and Rescue 169 was scrambled to a tanker ship off the West Coast of Ireland, it had to refuel in Ireland and dropped the casualty off at Shannon, just found it strange that Rescue 169 was called before Rescue 115.

Anyone know the reason behind this ?

eroo

Maybe Rescue 115 were busy at the time with another call?

msg11

eroo wrote: »

Maybe Rescue 115 were busy at the time with another call?

Was thinking that but would they have not tried Rescue 117, Rescue 169 coming from the South of England over to the West of Ireland is alot of distance to cover. Just odd maybe they were all busy or something and sought help from England.

So that begs the question would Rescue 117 help out Rescue 169? If so great use of resources and seeing both services working so closely. Thumbs up.

goldie fish

Where exactly was the rescue? The UK SAR area surrounds the Irish area, particularly in the Northwest.

msg11

goldie fish wrote: »

Where exactly was the rescue? The UK SAR area surrounds the Irish area, particularly in the Northwest.

The range of helicopter out off the West Coast of Ireland (Cork) in the Atlantic Ocean.

If it's there area that clears up the matter. But would it still not be more practical for our own SAR to get shout ?

donkey balls

This was posted on the aviation forum some time ago were the USAF&RAF mounted a SAR OP together.

An injured crewman has been sucessfully lifted from a cargo ship off the Kerry coast and brought to Shannon Airport.


Anna Rickmers
Injured crewman was airlifted
The two US helicopters involved were due to land at Shannon at about 10pm from where the injured seaman was expected to be taken to the Midwest Regional Hospital in Limerick.
His condition is understood to be stable.
British and US rescue aircraft participated in the rescue operation 600 miles off the Kerry coast.
It is understood the Burmese man sustained the injuries when he fell into the hold of the 'Anna Rickmers'.
Two US Pave-hawk helicopters based at Lakenheath in England, an RAF Nimrod and a US Hercules C130 were involved in the operation.

Hooch

msg11 wrote: »

Just wondering why Rescue 169 RAF was doing a shout in the area Rescue 115 works in?

Was watching National Geo Sea Patrol UK and Rescue 169 was scrambled to a tanker ship off the West Coast of Ireland, it had to refuel in Ireland and dropped the casualty off at Shannon, just found it strange that Rescue 169 was called before Rescue 115.

Anyone know the reason behind this ?

What year was it?? Before Irish helicopters and The aer corps the RAF and RN cover the west of ireland. Many a time they refuelled in Shannon and went on route to a rescue. Circa before 1989 I think but am open to correction

civdef

This may help.

msg11

NGA wrote: »

What year was it?? Before Irish helicopters and The aer corps the RAF and RN cover the west of ireland. Many a time they refuelled in Shannon and went on route to a rescue. Circa before 1989 I think but am open to correction

NGA looked about 2010 from the footage no later than 2007. Is there a way of extracting footage from the UPC box ? It's on my DVR, I could get it off if anyone knows how?

civdef wrote: »

This may help.

Still a little unsure, Rescue 169 refuelled in Ireland. I remember watching rescue 115 and they were in a similar situation and saying that there aircraft was at it's limits in terms of reach. So why would Rescue 169 came from England to put it's aircraft to the same limits that Rescue 115 can go to and I am nearly sure they both refuelled at the same point. They even had to get overhead cover for communication.

Don't get me wrong they done an excellent job. It's just why is the question !

ratracer

AFAIK the SeaKing heli has a longer working range than the Sikorski's used here. It's not the first time this has happened, and hence the refuelling as close to the coast as possible. You'll recall from the program the extra full fuel bladders even leaked a bit because they were trying to cram as much fuel as possible on board.

I presume if it wasn't a serious medical call they would have just let the ship sail close enough to shore for R115 to do the lift.

Goonerdee

I think it is just a case of whoever is thought to reach the casualty first will be the one tasked. I see in the chart Civdef posted it seems the Irish SRR doesn't cover North Eastern NI, but I know Irish helicopters have been used in these areas.

Klunk001

msg11 wrote: »

NGA looked about 2010 from the footage no later than 2007. Is there a way of extracting footage from the UPC box ? It's on my DVR, I could get it off if anyone knows how?



Still a little unsure, Rescue 169 refuelled in Ireland. I remember watching rescue 115 and they were in a similar situation and saying that there aircraft was at it's limits in terms of reach. So why would Rescue 169 came from England to put it's aircraft to the same limits that Rescue 115 can go to and I am nearly sure they both refuelled at the same point. They even had to get overhead cover for communication.

Don't get me wrong they done an excellent job. It's just why is the question !

There were a couple of reasons at the time for this. Falmouth CG were calling the shots on this one, 169 had camera's on board at the time filming the show in question. RAF SAR sea kings have about six hours endurance, IRCG heli's have about five hours endurance, RN SAR sea kings about four hours.

searescue

Asked one of the 115 pilots about this a few months ago when I saw it - think it was Sea Patrol UK?

The Icelandic volcano was erupting at that time and the western airports of Ireland weren't allowed to have aircraft depart.

UK was still open so they were allowed to depart and take the call on their behalf.

Doesn't make much sense when they would only be flying 1,000FT-ish but it was what the IAA (Irish Aviation Authority) implemented.

Hope this helps.