Northern Ireland Reg Car

trepasers

Just wondering what is involved if I do buy a car from northern ireland from start to finish if I want to bring her down here??

Atlantic Dawn

First make sure you get the full V5 form from the seller, they take a small cutoff export section that they send to the DVLA to declare the car exported. Then when you get south call the NCT to book it in for inspection for how much VRT you will pay. Then pay the VRT and put the new plates on the car within 3 days. You can see how much the VRT should be on www.revenue.ie, if the car has any modifications from the standard spec like leather seats or sat nav an additional charge is usually added to account for these.

slimjimmc

Needless to say you need to keep your insurer in the loop so that you're covered to drive the car from the dealer in the north and to drive around here while you're waiting for it to be registered. Don't rely on your "driving-other-cars" extension because that only applies to cars you don't own. While the Gardaí are likely to turn a blind eye the PSNI might be a bit more fussy about seeing a tax disc.

CiniO

slimjimmc wrote: »

While the Gardaí are likely to turn a blind eye the PSNI might be a bit more fussy about seeing a tax disc.

I don't think Garda in ROI would have anything to do with NI car tax.
There doesn't seem to be any regulations in relation to foreign cars being taxed in home country, while on Irish roads.

slimjimmc

CiniO wrote: »

I don't think Garda in ROI would have anything to do with NI car tax.
There doesn't seem to be any regulations in relation to foreign cars being taxed in home country, while on Irish roads.

In theory there is the possibility the car is not technically road legal in the home country and there are opinions as to whether or not that includes motor tax/road tax. It has been debated on Boards.ie before without any conclusive evidence either way and I'm sure the topic will crop up again.

Just make sure you've got NI tax or trailer it as the PSNI could come down on you on your way to the border.

CiniO

slimjimmc wrote: »

In theory there is the possibility the car is not technically road legal in the home country and there are opinions as to whether or not that includes motor tax/road tax.

Obviously road legality in home country includes motor tax (if it's required there).
The question is - what requires a foreign car on Irish roads, to be road legal in home country?
So far I didn't see any Law in regards this.

slimjimmc

CiniO wrote: »

Obviously road legality in home country includes motor tax (if it's required there).
The question is - what requires a foreign car on Irish roads, to be road legal in home country?
So far I didn't see any Law in regards this.

I don't know, probably none as Ireland is not a signatory (pdf) to the Vienna convention so I'm not claiming there are any such laws here. My advice to the OP is more concerned with complying with UK rules while driving in the UK, plenty of people have fallen foul in Britain for no tax while driving to the ferry port.

pennylemon

I live in Donegal and I'm pretty sure that when you buy over the border ya gotta change the plates etc. The Gardai definately check that along with tax disks and nct.

You can check the price of the vrt here;
https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html?execution=e2s1

aujopimur

To re-register you need.
V5
MOT
Purchase receipt
ID
PPS No.
Money (VRT)
NCT Appointment (only a limited no. of centres cater for VRT)

MidlandsM

aujopimur wrote: »

To re-register you need.
V5
MOT
Purchase receipt
ID
PPS No.
Money (VRT)
NCT Appointment (only a limited no. of centres cater for VRT)

the MOT is not required.
Also, you need proof of residence, ie a utility bill and proof of PPS no, like a tax letter/ p60 or the like.

challengemaster

MidlandsM wrote: »

the MOT is not required.
Also, you need proof of residence, ie a utility bill and proof of PPS no, like a tax letter/ p60 or the like.

the MOT (or equivilant) IS required if it's over 4 years old

NCTS.ie/vrt wrote:

#9) For vehicles over 4 years old, an unexpired roadworthiness certificate confirming that an equivalent to the NCT test has been passed. The vehicle will be called for a roadworthiness test (NCT) shortly after registration.

You also need to download and fill out the form provided on the ncts website.

Read through ncts.ie/vrt, it tells you everything you need in a clear way.

MidlandsM

challengemaster wrote: »

the MOT (or equivilant) IS required if it's over 4 years old



You also need to download and fill out the form provided on the ncts website.

Read through ncts.ie/vrt, it tells you everything you need in a clear way.

i stand corrected, thats new, but I've never been asked for one or had any issues

CiniO

slimjimmc wrote: »

I don't know, probably none as Ireland is not a signatory (pdf) to the Vienna convention so I'm not claiming there are any such laws here.

That's actually very interesting, as my point was that Vienna convention doesn't require any car in international traffic to be taxed in home country, or even road legal in home country.
Few main point from Vienna convention about driving abroad is that car has to be insured, it has to comply with technical requirements from country of registration, and driver has to carry vehicle registration cert while driving abroad at all times. Vehicle taxation is revenue thing, and Vienna convention has nothing to do with it.

I must admit though, that you shocked me a bit with that PDF according to which Ireland hasn't sign, neither ratified Vienna convention. Does it make Ireland only country like that in EU?

As well in that case, what rules govern foreign cars driving in Ireland? Is this defined in any legislation?

ardmacha

In the case of a NI car the Vienna Convention is neither here nor there. There have been regulations concerning mutual requirements for cars to be taxed and insured going back to the 1920s.

CiniO

ardmacha wrote: »

In the case of a NI car the Vienna Convention is neither here nor there. There have been regulations concerning mutual requirements for cars to be taxed and insured going back to the 1920s.

Would you be able to provide any link to those regulations?

corktina

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

First make sure you get the full V5 form from the seller, they take a small cutoff export section that they send to the DVLA to declare the car exported. Then when you get south call the NCT to book it in for inspection for how much VRT you will pay. Then pay the VRT and put the new plates on the car within 3 days. You can see how much the VRT should be on www.revenue.ie, if the car has any modifications from the standard spec like leather seats or sat nav an additional charge is usually added to account for these.

the parties fill in the relevant sections but the seller does NOT remove the export section, instead he gives the entire V5C to the buyer and writes to the DVLA (NI in this case) to tell them the car has been bought by an "overseas" buyer.The export section is only for the registered owner to use if exporting personally.The reason for this is because the registered owner cannot be sure the buyer will export it.

Our man in Havana

Why does it need a MOT if you will be forced to NCT in any event?

aujopimur

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Why does it need a MOT if you will be forced to NCT in any event?

Them is the rules, NCT require proof of roadworthinees before assessing for VRT.

challengemaster

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Why does it need a MOT if you will be forced to NCT in any event?

Who knows, I assume (if there's any logic behind it) that its to do with the time between getting the car imported & vrt'd and getting the NCT done, to know that the car is actually in a roadworthy condition...

Break all ties

I wonder what NCTS would do if I brought them a Bulgarian technical test card? I doubt very much they would be able to read it let alone know what it is.

Also the BG test is a simple annual brake test and visual inspection so hardly the same as a NCT.

CiniO

aujopimur wrote: »

Them is the rules, NCT require proof of roadworthinees before assessing for VRT.

Is it for real?

What if car which is imported doesn't have a valid test from country of origin?

Our man in Havana

CiniO wrote: »

Is it for real?

What if car which is imported doesn't have a valid test from country of origin?

Turn it around and go get one it would seem.

Our man in Havana

Break all ties wrote: »

I wonder what NCTS would do if I brought them a Bulgarian technical test card? I doubt very much they would be able to read it let alone know what it is.

Also the BG test is a simple annual brake test and visual inspection so hardly the same as a NCT.

I think you could have hours of fun with that. You can imagine the vacant looks from yer wan behind the counter. "What are these funny letters?"

aujopimur

CiniO wrote: »

Is it for real?

What if car which is imported doesn't have a valid test from country of origin?

They will test it for you.

Our man in Havana

Hang on. To re-register it they demand a MOT or similar. Now your saying you don't really need one?

Break all ties

I think you could have hours of fun with that. You can imagine the vacant looks from yer wan behind the counter. "What are these funny letters?"

Like this?

challengemaster

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Hang on. To re-register it they demand a MOT or similar. Now your saying you don't really need one?

If not I think they have to assess it, charge you for the assessment, and then VRT it...

corktina

You dont need an MoT, just if you don't have one they will want to inspect it for road-worthiness. Simpler all round if you do have one.

corktina

challengemaster wrote: »

If not I think they have to assess it, charge you for the assessment, and then VRT it...

All these charges will be deducted from the VRT.