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Gilbert's Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin

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  • 04-10-2011 10:10pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 10,264 ✭✭✭✭


    I found a load of these volumes in an old wardrobe in my Granny's house. Some of the pages have not even been opened yet (they're still stuck together at the top). Does anyone know much about them? Are they useful? I tried looking through them but it seems to be just a list of events and passings of laws, Dublin Assembly Rolls etc.

    Don't seem to be the kind of books you'd take to bed with a cup of tea :p

    Mum said she'd took some of them to a bookdealer years ago to see if they were of any value, and he seemed quite interested in a few volumes that were apparently very difficult to come across.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Uncut you say.

    Here is what they are about.

    [Sir] John Thomas Gilbert (1829-98)
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    Life [J. T. Gilbert, Esq.; Sir John Gilbert]; b. Dublin, ed. Bective Coll., established Public Records Office, in Dublin, 1867, but was involved in contention with Samuel Ferguson over the post of Keeper of the Records, and said to be irascible; author of History of the City of Dublin (1854-59), compiled from notebooks and organised by streets, which was awarded RIA Gold Medal; History of the Viceroys of Ireland (1865) [see note, infra]; arranged Muniment Room, 1866; corresponded with the Aryan and Celtic philologist Ernest Windisch;
    bequeathed his large library to Dublin Central Library, Pearse St., where it forms a large part of the collection; a printed catalogue was compiled by Douglas Hyde and D. J. O’Donoghue (the latter amending the work of the former); there is a biog. by Rosa Mulholland (Lady Gilbert), whom he married in 1891; d. suddenly 23 May 1898; centenary commemorations took the form of a lecture series hosted by the Dublin Corporation Public Libraries, commencing with Douglas Bennett on ‘The Streets of Dublin Revisited’ (Mansion House, Feb. 1998). CAB ODNB JMC DIW DIB DIL OCIL
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    Works
    • ‘The Streets of Dublin’, in Irish Quarterly Review, 2 (June 1852), cp.290-91;
    • Documents relating to Ireland, 1795-1804 (Dublin: J Dollard 1893);
    • History of the City of Dublin, 3 vols. (Dublin: McGlashan & Gill; London: William S. Orr 1854-59), xvi, 437pp., vi, 335, viiipp, iv, 382pp., ill. [map, fold.]; Do. [another edn., Duffy 1861) [preface subscribed, ‘Villanova, Black Rock, Dublin, 9th Dec. 1854’; details]; Do. ( Dublin: Quaritch; London: Dollard, 1903) [selected & condensed by the author from his History of the City of Dublin, 1861] and Do. [facs. rep. of 1861 edn.], introduced by F. E. Dixon, with an index by Diarmuid Breathnach (Shannon: IUP 1972);
    • History of the Viceroys of Ireland (Dublin: James Duffy 1865) URL="http://www.ricorso.net/rx/az-data/authors/g/Gilbert_J/life.htm#Viceroys"]details[/URL;
    • Historic & Municipal Documents of Ireland 1172-1320, from the archives of the City of Dublin (1870);
    • History of the Irish Confederation and the War in Ireland, 1641-49, 7 vols. (Dublin 1882-1891) [cited in Cat. of Bradshaw Coll. of Irish Books, Cambridge, 1916];
    • Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin (Dublin Corp. 1889). [Check dates of 1st edns. and early reps. of his History of the City of Dublin, 3 vols., ?1854, 1859, 1861.]
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    Related material
    • Catalogue of the Books & Manuscripts Comprising the Library of the Late Sir John T. Gilbert, compiled by Douglas Hyde & D. J. O'Donoghue for the Corporation of the City of Dublin (Dublin: Browne & Nolan 1918), xxiii, 962pp., 26cm.


    http://www.ricorso.net/rx/az-data/authors/g/Gilbert_J/life.htm

    He also did a guide to street names -though didn't touch the North side :D

    A link to street name origans

    http://www.chaptersofdublin.com/books/DublinSt/intro.htm


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,264 ✭✭✭✭Alicat


    Thanks for the link, but I'm still no closer to understanding the books we have! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Alicat wrote: »
    Thanks for the link, but I'm still no closer to understanding the books we have! :)

    This is what you have
    The Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin was edited by Sir John Thomas Gilbert and by Lady Gilbert and was published by Dublin Corporation in 19 volumes between 1889 and 1944. The Calendar contains transcripts and translations of documents from the city's archives for the period 1171 to 1841, including selected Dublin City Charters and extracts from the Liber Albus and the Chain Book of Dublin, together with Dublin City Assembly Rolls from 1447 to 1841. This magisterial work is the most extensive and important publication of original archival records undertaken by any local authority in Ireland.

    http://www.fourcourtspress.ie/product.php?intProductID=329

    There are e books on the text on line

    http://www.archive.org/details/calendarancient01weldgoog


    Author: Dublin (Ireland); Gilbert, John Thomas, Sir, 1829-1898, ed; Gilbert, Rosa M. (Rosa Mulholland), 1841-1921; Weldrick, John Francis
    Publisher: Dublin, J. Dollard; [etc., etc.]
    Year: 1907
    Possible copyright status: NOT_IN_COPYRIGHT
    Digitizing sponsor: Google
    Book from the collections of: University of Michigan
    Collection: americana
    Notes: Vols. 8-17 edited by Rosa M. Gilbert; v. 18- by John Francis Weldrick.

    There are 19 volumes ,so you need to work out what volumes you have on the title pages - which volume numbers.

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    Lot of 2 Important Histories of Dublin by J.T.Gilbert - 1857 & 1896
    Lot of 2 Important Histories of Dublin by J.T.Gilbert - 1857 & 1896

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    Title - (Two Items) History of the City of Dublin Vol.1 & Parliament House, Dublin. Maps and Illustrations.
    Author - John T. Gilbert
    Date - (1) History of Dublin 1857, (2) Parliament House 1896
    Size - (1)150mm x 235mm (2)200mm x 263mm
    Condition - Good. Usual age related toning of pages. First couple of pages of The History... have damp stains running to page 4 including the map of Dublin. Otherwise very good.



    Lot of 2 Scarce books on Dublin by Historian Sir John T.Gilbert



    Two scarce items by John Thomas Gilbert the noted book-collector, librarian, historian and archivist who is best known for his 3 volume, 'History of the City of Dublin', and the 'Calendar of Ancient Records of Dublin'.



    This lot includes



    Vol.1, dated 1857, from his 3 volume set 'History of the City of Dublin', and includes the original map of Dublin. The book has been re-bound in a modern cloth binding, and apart form damp stains to first couple of pages is in good condition.
    A copy of his 1896 publication, 'Parliament House, Dublin', which was published just 2 years before his death in 1898. In very good condition, original binding with gold lettering, and numerous illustrations. (please look at photographs)


    A scarce and attractive lot in good condition.



    Important and Scarce Dublin Histories.



    http://www.oldirishmaps.com/proddetail.php?prod=dbooksonDubbyGilbert&cat=13



    Item ID: 15857-0
    Price: €375.00 (€386.81 Inc. VAT)
    Other currencies guide: $525.00 | £322.50

    VAT is payable by EU resident customers

    A full set will be more of interest than a partial set -but hopefully this gives you an idea what you have.

    The prices he quotes are retail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,264 ✭✭✭✭Alicat


    Super, thanks!

    I think we have 18 of them. Will double check again and try a few sellers to see what they think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Alicat wrote: »
    Super, thanks!

    I think we have 18 of them. Will double check again and try a few sellers to see what they think.

    I am not an expert - it caught my imagination .

    Ask if you can buy the missing one. :D

    I imagine a full set would be worth more .


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Alicat wrote: »
    Super, thanks!

    I think we have 18 of them. Will double check again and try a few sellers to see what they think.
    You could discuss this collection with Kennys' bookshop in Galway - they're great for this kind of material - both to buy from and sell to.
    http://www.bookshop.kennys.ie

    Mealy's could be worth a shout too.
    http://www.mealys.com/rarebooks/

    And then there's the National Archive.
    http://www.nli.ie/en/how-we-acquire-our-collections.aspx


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