Accident on South Georges st. involving a cyclist and SUV

Hmmzis

At about 1pm was heading for lunch and saw the aftermath of a collision between a SUV and a cyclist. The cyclist looked in quite bad shape , lots of braces were already put on him and there were lots of medics around.
Two ambulances were on the scene and a Gard was making notes.

Hopefully he recovers well.

frobisher

I saw the aftermath of this. It looked nasty and shook me a bit. I cycle a lot in twon and will be wearing a helmet always now. I found these pics of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/6210901187/

seamus

Not surprised. Doing a U-Turn from the parking spaces in front of Hogan's by the looks of it. No other way really for the SUV to end up in that position.

There are a number of roads in the city which should have a solid white line all the way down the middle and no right-hand turns onto or off the street. Would save a whole pile of traffic problems too.

Looks like the cyclist took a fairly hard collision. Garda doesn't seem excessively concerned though, so hopefully it's just a few cuts and bruises and the guy is back on his feet soon.

edanto

Poor, poor guy. Hope he's OK.

The SUV is at a very funny angle across the street.

Assuming that the SUV didn't budge after the crash, it would look like the SUV pulled out to do a U-turn, straight into the path of the cyclist. If that's what happened, that would be damn careless.

Dermot Illogical

It doesn't look too bad, thankfully. That's one of the dodgier streets in Dublin. A lot of confused people in that area.

davidsatelle100

hope hes ok

Tallon

seamus wrote: »

Looks like the cyclist took a fairly hard collision. Garda doesn't seem excessively concerned though, so hopefully it's just a few cuts and bruises and the guy is back on his feet soon.

How did you come to this conclusion?

To me, it looks like he's really comforting him

Hope he's okay

seamus

Just from facial expressions/body language after looking at one of the images full-size. Granted, I would expect a Garda to be cool and calm anyway, so I could be way off.

Tallon

seamus wrote: »

Just from facial expressions/body language after looking at one of the images full-size. Granted, I would expect a Garda to be cool and calm anyway, so I could be way off.

I get what you're saying, but from the first linked picture, it looks like he's in full control and keeping a calm head, both for the cyclists benefit and the car owner, who appears to be pretty shook up too

daragh_

Just a few doors down from my office.

I've witnessed lot's of erratic behaviour from motorists, cyclists and pedestrians on Sth Georges St. Taxi drivers outside Dunnes (not a legal rank AFAIK) are always pulling u-turns.

On the bike it's easy to pick up speed coming down from Aungier St that you really need to scrub quickly once you get down to that stretch - if you are to safely maneuver the build up of traffic.

In any case I hope that cyclist isn't badly hurt and is up and out again soon.

coolbeans

frobisher wrote: »

I saw the aftermath of this. It looked nasty and shook me a bit. I cycle a lot in twon and will be wearing a helmet always now. I found these pics of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/infomatique/6210901187/

I must say I hate the tagline for those pics..."Cycling in Dublin is a high risk activity". It really isn't.

ccull123

Tallon wrote: »

How did you come to this conclusion?

To me, it looks like he's really comforting him

Hope he's okay

How in the name of god could you come to the conclusion that the Guard did not look too concerned.........(not having a go but its a fairly poor statement to make)

tomasrojo

coolbeans wrote: »

I must say I hate the tagline for those pics..."Cycling in Dublin is a high risk activity". It really isn't.

This comment on the flickr page is about right:

Your stats are not useful without context. How many journeys were made by bicycle without incident during that time ? What are the equivalent numbers for other forms of transport?

Making sensationalist claims like the above without all the facts is irresponsible.

Obviously, I very much hope the cyclist is ok.

langdang

EEK, fair oul dent over the wheel arch of the CRV. Ouch (for the cyclist, not the Honda!)

Tallon

ccull123 wrote: »

How in the name of god could you come to the conclusion that the Guard did not look too concerned.........(not having a go but its a fairly poor statement to make)

I didn't, I was arguing the fact!

Doctor Bob

tomasrojo wrote: »

This comment on the flickr page is about right

Made by a certain former Mod, if I'm recognising the blue On One in his photostream correctly.

daragh_ wrote: »

Just a few doors down from my office.

I've witnessed lot's of erratic behaviour from motorists, cyclists and pedestrians on Sth Georges St. Taxi drivers outside Dunnes (not a legal rank AFAIK) are always pulling u-turns.

Pedestrians especially are badly catered for on South Great George's Street- there really should be some sort of crossing right at the entrance to the Market. And Yes, where the taxis park is a loading bay, not a taxi bay. I do sometimes see the Guards clamp down on them, but it's a daily occurrence, and is really problematic at evening rush hour when I've seen taxis double parked, queueing back into the junction and blocking the turn into Exchequer Street, etc.

DirkVoodoo

They have moved his head under a folded up jacket, if he was really in a bad way they wouldn't have touched him until the paramedics arrived.

frobisher

To me it seemed serious, the Garda seemed to have that stay-calm-in-a-bad-situation buzz about him. Although this is COMPLETELY just the feeling I got, not based on fact. In fact, when I first arrived I looked for the cameras as it all seemed so slow moving and kind of relaxed. I kept looking for the guy on the ground to move but he didn't, but the Garda could have told him to stay still to be on the safe side.

The driver was either the male or female in a couple with a young kid in the back seat. They looked very shook up too.

I was surprised at how slow moving the ambulance seemed to be as they were leaving, so maybe he wasn't too bad. I certainly hope so.

I found this info on cycling accidents: http://www.traceysolicitors.ie/blog/cyclists-in-dublin-facts-figures-on-accidents/

goldencleric

Agree re the irresponsible tagline. Are we right to assume now that pedestrians/ motorists are free of danger in the city?

Khannie

frobisher wrote: »

I kept looking for the guy on the ground to move but he didn't, but the Garda could have told him to stay still to be on the safe side.

I've done first aid courses before and this is almost certainly the case if there's any potential at all for any kind of neck or back injury. It's what we were told to do anyway.

frobisher wrote: »

I found this info on cycling accidents: http://www.traceysolicitors.ie/blog/cyclists-in-dublin-facts-figures-on-accidents/

I wonder if it's significantly better now with the HGV ban in place.

frobisher

Khannie wrote: »

I wonder if it's significantly better now with the HGV ban in place.

And the 30kph limit. The city certainly feels better, but I didn't cycle much until the last year so I can't compare. What about those that have? Is it any better?

edanto

In my experience, it's a lot safer without the HGVs. Haven't really noticed the speed limit that much, so few people obey the 30k.

I think the main problems come from drivers deciding to do something at the last minute - a quick turn left without indicating/checking, or in this case obviously a U-turn. Letting passengers out in traffic is a good one too, I've had to slam on the anchors a few times to avoid crashing into a recently opened door.

blorg

FWIW I've been restrained onto one of those stretchers and told not to move after an accident, more than once in fact. Most ambulance rides they do it. One time I was standing when the ambulance arrived (albeit with a bad neck wound) and they still strapped me onto it. It is a precaution. The other time I was left lying on the ground after the accident but the gardai were keen I didn't move. Hopefully the cyclist is OK.

coolbeans

frobisher wrote: »

To me it seemed serious, the Garda seemed to have that stay-calm-in-a-bad-situation buzz about him. Although this is COMPLETELY just the feeling I got, not based on fact. In fact, when I first arrived I looked for the cameras as it all seemed so slow moving and kind of relaxed. I kept looking for the guy on the ground to move but he didn't, but the Garda could have told him to stay still to be on the safe side.

The driver was either the male or female in a couple with a young kid in the back seat. They looked very shook up too.

I was surprised at how slow moving the ambulance seemed to be as they were leaving, so maybe he wasn't too bad. I certainly hope so.

I found this info on cycling accidents: http://www.traceysolicitors.ie/blog/cyclists-in-dublin-facts-figures-on-accidents/

Those stats are published for commercial reasons and are very out of date. I bet Traceys won't be publishing the dramatically improved numbers over the last four to five years as that wouldn't serve their aim to construct a climate of fear around cycling.

HivemindXX

coolbeans wrote: »

Those stats are published for commercial reasons and are very out of date. I bet Traceys won't be publishing the dramatically improved numbers over the last four to five years as that wouldn't serve their aim to construct a climate of fear around cycling.

I still think it's useful to see the percentage breakdown of the source of injuries. Injuries being the important bit since usually you only see stats on fatalities.