Glidden paints

creedp

I am currently getting prices for internal painting of a new build and one guy says that he uses glidden paints exclusively which is made by Dulux. Never head of that brand myself and am wondering if anyone else has used it and has any views to share?

If a contractor quotes with a particular type of paint, does this mean that he get this paint with a decent volume discount so changing to another brand will involve a hike in price?

cardwizzard

Yeah its not the best. True its made by the company that also own Dulux, but they have about 25% of the market share. It's light, watery and marks easily. May will do if your on a budget.

I'd presume it would involve a price increase as you will be changing the terms he has offered. Ask to see what the difference will be. Cost of materials is usually 10% or so of a job, with labour around 85-90%. IMO its pointless applying cheap paint as it will cost you in the long run, if you have to redo it in a few years time.

creedp

cardwizzard wrote: »

Yeah its not the best. True its made by the company that also own Dulux, but they have about 25% of the market share. It's light, watery and marks easily. May will do if your on a budget.

I'd presume it would involve a price increase as you will be changing the terms he has offered. Ask to see what the difference will be. Cost of materials is usually 10% or so of a job, with labour around 85-90%. IMO its pointless applying cheap paint as it will cost you in the long run, if you have to redo it in a few years time.

Thanks cardwizzard. Yea I was concerned that this might be the case but had never heard of the brand. I did a quick google and it seems to be a popular DIY brand in the US which was not too highly complemented by professional painters contributing to a particular forum. I think I will ask to upgrade paint and take the hit. As you rightly say 80-90% of the cost of the job is labour so why apply cheap paint only to have to repeat the process down the road. Also I would have to do it myself the 2nd time around:)

michael999999

At least he told you he was going to use cheaper paint, he could just have said nothing and got on with the job!

creedp

michael999999 wrote: »

At least he told you he was going to use cheaper paint, he could just have said nothing and got on with the job!

Well that is true but I suppose we pushed the issue by asking him for a colour card of the paint he intended using so we could select the colours we wanted. There was no colour card simply that he culd get any colour we wanted. However, difficult to select without a colour card!

Anyway it seems he will use crown/Fleetwood paint at no extra cost and colour trend will cost twice as much again. Seems like a big premium but there you are.

Any opinions on whether Crown or Fleetwood paints are best?

Wertz

Colortrend costs about 3 times as much as Glidden, and that's before you get into their Devine or Historic finishes. Gangsters IMO.
No problems using Glidden in the past personally, for ceilings and basecoats...wouldn't be my weapon of choice though.

creedp

Wertz wrote: »

Colortrend costs about 3 times as much as Glidden, and that's before you get into their Devine or Historic finishes. Gangsters IMO.
No problems using Glidden in the past personally, for ceilings and basecoats...wouldn't be my weapon of choice though.

Thanks, I think he used Glidden for the base coat spray paint and although it looks fine in most places I've noticed a bit of shadowing in a couple of spots where the skim colour is showing through. Also anything that hits against it causes it to mark easy and come off wall. He said he will use Crown paint for same price so I think I will go ahead on that basis and leave the colour trend for a more propserous time:)

Wertz

Mist coat's going to do that (not a fan of spraying walls tbh)...it's only a primer and matt marks easily no matter how many coats are on.
None of my business, but inquire about something wipeable if you have kids or in high traffic areas...finishing walls in soft, chalky matt isn't the key to a long lasting job...

Gorteenman

Remember paint is just pigment, resin and solvent....If you use cheap pigment and resin and excess solvent dont expect a quality finish. In the great scheme if things is €20 extra in a room worth it for a quality finish? If it is then maybe interior design is not the right thread....Just Sayin!!:):):)

Wertz

Not really such a thing as cheap pigment...they're the one thing that no paint company can properly scrimp on if they want true colour gamut...where paint is made cheaper is by poorer quality vehicle/resin and extra solvent and with vinyl matt, extra filler (which leads to that chalky markable finish).
Some premium brand paint makers take the proverbial with their product costs and when it comes to acrylics, costs can vary greatly and finish is more or less identical. once applied properly.

as for discussions on cheap paint not belonging in the interior design forum, don't know if you'd noticed but a lot of people are having a hard time of things...cutting costs is in a lot of people's interests (including struggling tradesmen).
Not bargain bin DIY store own brand crap, but not the designer boutique stuff in the bespoke tin either...there is a middle ground where people should reside if they want the best bang for their buck IMO.
You do get what you pay for when it comes to paint...up to a point, past which, the premium is being charged "because you're worth it" and the difference is miniscule (and usually comes down to specific colour tones)