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Who do we reckon for top spots in Kona 2011

  • 01-10-2011 11:01pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭


    Race list below, for me its,
    Men
    1st Raelert, 2nd Henning 3rd Vanhoenacker

    Women
    Don't know all of them enough but i pretty much know first:)
    1st Wellington, 2nd Carfrae, 3rd Marsh
    Pro men

    1 Craig Alexander (AUS)
    2 Raynard Tissink (RSA)
    3 Timothy O'Donnell (USA)
    4 Eneko Llanos (ESP)
    5 Faris Al-Sultan (GER)
    6 Marino Vanhoenacker (BEL)
    7 Jan Raphael (GER)
    8 Luke Bell (AUS)
    9 Timo Bracht (GER)
    10 Andreas Raelert (GER)
    11 Pete Jacobs (AUS)
    12 Jozsef Major (HUN)
    13 Mathias Hecht (SUI)
    14 Cameron Brown (NZL)
    15 Frederik Van Lierde (BEL)
    16 Petr Vabrousek (CZE)
    17 Ronnie Schildknecht (SUI)
    18 Maik Twelsiek (GER)
    19 Luke McKenzie (AUS)
    20 Ben Hoffman (USA)
    21 Michael Weiss (AUT)
    22 T.J. Tollakson (USA)
    23 Patrick Vernay (NCL)
    24 Axel Zeebroek (BEL)
    25 Chris Lieto (USA)
    26 Tom Lowe (GBR)
    27 Rasmus Henning (DEN)
    28 Torsten Abel (GER)
    29 Andy Potts (USA)
    30 Balazs Csoke (HUN)
    31 Andi Boecherer (GER)
    32 Sergio Marques (POR)
    33 Dirk Bockel (LUX)
    34 Bert Jammaer (BEL)
    35 Michael Lovato (USA)
    36 Michael Goehner (GER)
    37 Mike Schifferle (SUI)
    38 Joe Gambles (AUS)
    39 Matthew Russell (USA)
    40 Cyril Viennot (FRA)
    41 Matty White (AUS)
    42 Paul Amey (GBR)
    43 Daniel Fontana (ITA)
    44 Mike Aigroz (SUI)
    45 Mike Neill (CAN)
    46 Georg Potrebitsch (GER)
    47 Ian Mikelson (USA)
    48 Matty Reed (USA)
    49 Marko Albert (EST)
    50 Courtney Ogden (AUS)
    51 Hiroyuki Nishiuchi (JPN)

    Pro women

    101 Mirinda Carfrae (AUS)
    102 Chrissie Wellington (GBR)
    103 Caroline Steffen (SUI)
    104 Yvonne Van Vlerken (NED)
    105 Karin Thuerig (SUI)
    106 Tyler Stewart (USA)
    107 Leanda Cave (GBR)
    108 Julie Dibens (GBR)
    109 Heleen Bij De Vaate (NED)
    110 Kelly Williamson (USA)
    111 Amy Marsh (USA)
    112 Rachel Joyce (GBR)
    113 Sonja Tajsich (GER)
    114 Catriona Morrison (GBR)
    115 Silvia Felt (GER)
    116 Heather Wurtele (CAN)
    117 Virginia Berasategui (ESP)
    118 Tine Deckers (BEL)
    119 Lucie Zelenkova (CZE)
    120 Sofie Goos (BEL)
    121 Kate Bevilaqua (AUS)
    122 Kim Loeffler (USA)
    123 Caitlin Snow (USA)
    124 Linsey Corbin (USA)
    125 Amanda Stevens (USA)
    126 Samantha Warriner (NZL)
    127 Uli Bromme (USA)
    128 Mary Beth Ellis (USA)
    129 Maki Nishiuchi (JPN)
    130 Miranda Alldritt (CAN)
    131 Jackie Arendt (USA)
    132 Joanna Lawn (NZL)
    133 Natascha Badmann (SUI)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭kingQuez


    Women
    Don't know all of them enough but i pretty much know first:)
    1st Wellington, 2nd Carfrae, 3rd Marsh
    Pro men

    Chrissie is the obvious one to win, but between the DNS lastyear and her recent crash she's going to have a lot of pressure/nervousness in the run up to the race this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭griffin100


    I have a feeling that Chrisie won't have it all her own way this year, assuming she makes it to the start line of course. Carfrae ofr YVV maybe?

    Alexander for the mens!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 212 ✭✭HobbyMan


    Great to see Natascha Badmann racing. :)

    Not sure about top 3 for the men. I'm hoping for a close race and an upset. I'll be watching the race live on my laptop. ;)

    Womens race would be easier to guess but let's see who gets to the starting line first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    My mens pick of Raelart for 1st may come good yet, moving very well on the run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Crowie for me. Been there done that on the biggest day. Watch him
    The record will surely go

    Molloy had great bike split - 4:52. He did 4:53 in the "short" IM Austria.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Abhainn wrote: »
    Crowie for me. Been there done that on the biggest day. Watch him
    The record will surely go

    Molloy had great bike split - 4:52. He did 4:53 in the "short" IM Austria.

    I think the record will go, Crowie not a cert Raelart has near taken a minute out of him, it will be close run thing. I wish they would hurry up so i can go to bed:)

    Molloy going very well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Nwm2


    My mens pick of Raelart for 1st may come good yet, moving very well on the run.

    Time gap shrinking very slowly though? 3:00 at the start of the run, 2:30 now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Crowie was excellent and a course record to boot, i wrote him off at my peril as i thought the 70.3 worlds were too close and i did not think he could live with some of the uber bikers, how wrong was i:o
    Chapeau sir .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Crowie was excellent and a course record to boot, i wrote him off at my peril as i thought the 70.3 worlds were too close and i did not think he could live with some of the uber bikers, how wrong was i:o
    Chapeau sir .

    8:03:56. and the record. Unreal. His illness and the period unable to train and race at the start if the year was key to his victory. Race less, win more

    And 38yrs young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Mike Aigroz 6th!! Fair play to him. He had said season was over after Galway when talking to him there so thats a hell of a result. I think it was the downing of the pint of Guinness that got him there!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Either Molloys timing chip is awol or else something has happened, he has gone from top 5 in AG to 111:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    yeah something happened at the 2nd timing mat. he's 7th now it says


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭couerdelion


    There was some fantastic racing. Unfortunately the live coverage was using silverlight which isn't compatible with iPads / iPhones and my laptop was in work so I had to make do with following on twitter.

    Crowie had been working on his bike all year and it showed with no one getting a decent break away and a big enough lead into the run to hold him off. At one point after the turn around Leito was hitting speeds of 80kmh! His average was >41kmh.

    In the womens race Dibbens got a flyer being second out of the swim and then leading all the way on the bike (ave speed of 38 kmh) but it seems her foot injury was her downfall in the end. Wellington was 10 minutes down coming out of the swim and 20+ mins down on the bike course. I had written her off at that point and went to bed, but she came good on the run with a 2:52 marathon, a fourth world title and still unbeaten at Iron distance... and still hardly a mention in the British press (only seen small articles online in the Independent and Telegraph). In any other country she would be commanding the back page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Either Molloys timing chip is awol or else something has happened, he has gone from top 5 in AG to 111:confused:

    Really impressive debut by Molloy.

    TG for twitter as it's the only place I could get updates on Saturday night. Wife was going nuts with me constantly checking it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    pgibbo wrote: »
    Really impressive debut by Molloy.

    TG for twitter as it's the only place I could get updates on Saturday night. Wife was going nuts with me constantly checking it :D

    The coverage was excellent online. I have no idea what silverlight what is but I had it.

    I had the laptop on while the gf watched X Factor. In the end, she was asking me how Wellington was doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Great coverage, i had the top two right in the womans and my top 3 in the mens i only had Raelart placed. Crowie really must of worked hard on the bike this year as i think that is the earliest he took the lead in all his wins and it was all down to the work he done on the bike.
    Great going by Molloy, a 9:13 and 87th overall inc pros is not to be sniffed at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Great going by Molloy, a 9:13 and 87th overall inc pros is not to be sniffed at.


    +1 fastest IRL by far although he may have pushed the bike a little hard. Top 10 AG is a savage result for his first Kona. 20 mins odd ahead of the pair of Austria sub9ers, Muldoon and Martin too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    Bit of an epic thread on slowtwitch after a poster appears to have identified a cheater at Kona last week.

    http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Should_this_be_a_DQ_or_DNF_at_Kona_P3578365

    Grab a cup of tea, it gets good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    nerraw1111 wrote: »
    Bit of an epic thread on slowtwitch after a poster appears to have identified a cheater at Kona last week.

    http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Should_this_be_a_DQ_or_DNF_at_Kona_P3578365

    Grab a cup of tea, it gets good.

    Meh, its like the fella who got the bus for the Marathon. Cheaters everywhere, usually their own negative self beliefs + peer pressure getting the better of them and they act irrationally. Yes it gives us a good laugh. Events are not fool proof either, where there is a will there is a way. I saw several people cut their run lap short by about 400m at the Spiddal Tri this summer. I bet there were more cheaters he at Kona as much as it beggars belief. He just got caught and poor guy has to live with that forever unless he takes up a new sport and a new attitude. Fair play for the person who found him out and brought it to the surface, I hate cheating. However, I'm with the fool me once, fool you, fool me twice, fool me.. crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Meh, its like the fella who got the bus for the Marathon. Cheaters everywhere, usually their own negative self beliefs + peer pressure getting the better of them and they act irrationally. Yes it gives us a good laugh. Events are not fool proof either, where there is a will there is a way. I saw several people cut their run lap short by about 400m at the Spiddal Tri this summer. I bet there were more cheaters he at Kona as much as it beggars belief. He just got caught and poor guy has to live with that forever unless he takes up a new sport and a new attitude. Fair play for the person who found him out and brought it to the surface, I hate cheating. However, I'm with the fool me once, fool you, fool me twice, fool me.. crowd.

    Few years ago I did the national champs in middle distance, came 8th. or so i thought. Worst organised event I've seen and it wasn't thought through so people did 2 instead of 3 laps and organiser refused to listen. Down as 9th on official results.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I wonder if he'd have admitted it if he hadn't realised she was suspicious and seen he was down as a DNF?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    As Mcos said cheating goes on everywhere and to varying degrees. I was laughing to myself when i seen the number of people taking shortcuts inside the buoys in the UKIM swim only to shave a few mtrs off the 3.8km distance. Whats the point as it diminishes the achievement!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    I was surprised to hear of someone cheating at Kona. I don’t get that mentality. Fantastic bit of research by the original poster to nail the person.

    Not sure if I buy his apology given that he was openly boasting about his marathon split which doesn’t fit in with his ‘I got carried away with the crowds.’

    I can see how you might get carried away and end up cheating. But to boast about it afterwards suggests that it was intentional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Re. cheating I often wounder if any of the AG'ers that get to Kona have used PED's to help them on their way. Think about it, if EPO for example can give you a 10% improvement that's a lot of time for a 9.30-10hr AG'er. You juice up for the qualification races where there's no testing and then drop of use post qualification once you've got your spot. Far fetched....I wounder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    griffin100 wrote: »
    Re. cheating I often wounder if any of the AG'ers that get to Kona have used PED's to help them on their way. Think about it, if EPO for example can give you a 10% improvement that's a lot of time for a 9.30-10hr AG'er. You juice up for the qualification races where there's no testing and then drop of use post qualification once you've got your spot. Far fetched....I wounder.

    Doping is rife within AG triathlon and over the last few years there have been a number of allegations against Irish AGers. (To clarify this could be just idle speculation, jealousy, I don't know what - the whispers were never official)
    Almost impossible for an AGer to get caught and a course of EPO costs alot less than a disc wheel and would bring alot more benefit.


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