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Egypt now has Nazi party

  • 29-09-2011 10:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭


    The Arab Spring seemingly will include a supremacist party.

    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=222367
    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/3131.htm

    Tbh, they look a bit clueless but you never know what will happen down the line.
    Apparently they don't want to fight the Jews as the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood wants but still, wasn't the Jews the main enemy of the nazis?

    Dr. Mordechai Kedar, of Bar-Ilan University’s Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, said Egypt was going through a highly turbulent period, adding that all manner of bizarre individuals were launching Facebook groups and attracting members.
    Historically, he said, the German Nazi party saw three attempts to copy it in the Arab world in the 1930s in Lebanon, Iraq and Egypt. The Egyptian party of that time was led by former president Anwar Sadat, who went on to sign a peace treaty with Israel in 1979.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Why they are even getting attention is beyond me. 3 hoods is what they basically are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Well now.
    Those are two of the least objective examples of journalism I have seen.
    Not surprising considering the sources.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Dirk Gently


    Egypt now has a nazi facebook group (along with every other country) .........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Even Israel has Nazi's:

    Israeli 'neo-Nazi gang' arrested

    Pretty desperate of the Jerusalem Post and Memri to make out a facebook group to be more than it is.

    Also, it should be pointed out that Memri are not a trust worthy source:
    From Source Watch: Middle East Media Research Institute
    --SNIP--
    Issues of reliability and veracity

    MEMRI is operated by a group closely associated with the Israeli intelligence organizations. Now, in an article in Haaretz, we find that the Israeli Army has sought to plant stories about "terrorism" in the press, and

    "Psychological warfare officers were in touch with Israeli journalists covering the Arab world, gave them translated articles from Arab papers (which were planted by the [Israel Defense Forces] IDF) and pressed the Israeli reporters to publish the same news here." --Amos Harel, IDF reviving psychological warfare unit, Haaretz, January 25, 2005.

    This should raise a question or two about the reliability and veracity of the stories peddled by MEMRI.

    This is what Prof. Juan Cole had to say about this:

    "So is MEMRI, which translates articles from the Arabic press into English for thousands of US subscribers, in any way involved in all this? Its director formerly served in… Israeli military intelligence. How much of what we "know" from "Arab sources" about "Hizbullah terrorism" was simply made up by this fantasy factory in Tel Aviv?
    As someone who reads the Arabic press quite a lot, this sort of revelation is extremely disturbing.
    I also saw an allegation that British military intelligence had planted stories in the US press about Saddam's Iraq.
    You begin to wonder how much of what you think you know is just propaganda manufactured by some bored colonel. No wonder post-Baath Iraq looks nothing like what we were led to to expect by the press, including the Arab press!" [2]

    Another assessment:

    If you rely on MEMRI for your knowledge of Arab discourse, you are really not informed. Arab public opinion, based on MEMRI's releases, is reduced or caricatured to either Bin Laden fans or Bush fans, while Arab public opinion is mosty a fan of neither people. --As'ad AbuKhalil [3]

    Although widely used in the mainstream media as a source of information on the Arab world, it is as trustworthy as Julius Streicher's Der Sturmer was on the Jewish world. --Norman Finkelstein [4]
    --SNIP--

    Also, there known for faking translations:
    From Source Watch: Middle East Media Research Institute
    --SNIP--
    Wafa Sultan

    Los Angeles based Syrian/American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan appeared on an al-Jazeera television show opposite Dr. Ibrahim al-Khouly, a lecturer at Cairo's Al-Azhar University. Memri offered a heavily edited version of the show, and mistranslated several of the exchanges, making it appear that al-Khouly had issued a death fatwa against Sultan. Wafa Sultan became known as someone who had her life threatened because of her "Clash of Civilizations" point of view.

    It turns out that Sultan had appeared on a daytime al Jazeera show, roughly equivalent to Jerry Springer, that Western Educated Dr. Ibrahim al-Khouly had not issued a fatwa, and as he is not a recognized Mufti, had he issued a fatwa, it would not be considered in any way, authoritarian.

    A secularist blog covering topics broadly related to MENA, named Aqoul, took a tape of the whole show, and translated it, making it available in a PDF file: Transcript Translation: al-Jazeera - The Opposite Direction (26/02/2006). Posts on Aqoul, as well as one on the Winds of Change blog offer a great deal of insight into the distortions:
    --SNIP--

    Thats just one example of there fake translations. More can be found online easily. So there not trust worthy at all.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,601 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    A Nazi party is sort of surprising, but a more basic fascist party I would have expected. Fascism in Italy greatly played upon the concept of bringing together a deeply divided nation - and Egypt is pretty damn divided at the moment. Still wont take off in today's world I expect!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 715 ✭✭✭HellsAngel


    wes wrote: »
    Even Israel has Nazi's:

    Israeli 'neo-Nazi gang' arrested
    And it's not just in Israel that some Zionists flirt with teh extreme right, here's Zionists at an English Defence League rally in London. Birds of a feather as they say.

    4062166462_851c97f6bab1.jpg3999420004_b3b36e5a41.jpg

    Neo Nazi's for Israel
    http://www.tentaclesofzion.com/miscellaneous/neonazis-for-israel/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Wait, so those guys from the former Soviet have Neo-Nazi leanings, what exactly is it that makes them Zionists ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    biko wrote: »
    Tbh, they look a bit clueless but you never know what will happen down the line.
    How many of the various Facebook 'likes' come from the various Israeli and Egyptian security organsations?
    Apparently they don't want to fight the Jews as the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood wants but still, wasn't the Jews the main enemy of the nazis?
    No. The Naxi Party's primary targets were communists, socialists and trade unions as they provided rival power structures. The targetting of ethnic / religious and social groups (various liberal thinkers, artists, gays, etc.) was secondary - these groups didn't have cohesive power structures. That said, as a proportion of population, Jewish people did suffer very badly.

    "Enemy" might not be the most accurate word there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Wait, so those guys from the former Soviet have Neo-Nazi leanings, what exactly is it that makes them Zionists ?

    I think you could hardly call them Zionists,just Russians with a distant connection to Judaism who took advantage of the Law of Return. Pretty sick little group of people.


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