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Where to buy a scrum cap?

  • 27-09-2011 9:46pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    Might anyone have any advice on the best place to buy a decent scrum cap?

    Just checked rugbystore - they seem very expensive...

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Those ones don't strike me as being particularly expensive. Your talking €20-25 minimum unless they're on sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Have you played with one before? If not try get a lend of one for a game and give it a go. I got one and it lasted 10 mins before I took it off. Irritated me having soemthing on my head and I felt restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    Have you played with one before? If not try get a lend of one for a game and give it a go. I got one and it lasted 10 mins before I took it off. Irritated me having soemthing on my head and I felt restricted.

    Cheers but I had a few concussions a few seasons back and it seems to happen more easily now whenever I take a knock. Just have to get used to wearing one!

    Can't understand why more people don't wear them to be honest. Look at the likes of Berrick Barnes and John Fogarty...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I don't think Barnes is a great advocate of scrum caps preventing concussion as hasn't he worn them for ages? As in long before the recent head problems, actually I can't picture him without one, defo he wore one in the 2007 World Cup.

    My advice would be if you're getting concussed easier and easier is to quit the game. Certainly SEEK MEDICAL ADVICEas a scrum cap will do nothing.

    Read Bernard Jackman's book, he had the exact same problem as you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I don't think Barnes is a great advocate of scrum caps preventing concussion as hasn't he worn them for ages? As in long before the recent head problems, actually I can't picture him without one, defo he wore one in the 2007 World Cup.

    Umm.. Taken four days ago against the US:

    Berrick-Barnes.jpg

    I've never seen him play without one.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Yeah I can't picture him without one either. He took a complete break from rugby earlier this year as he was having serious head problems after taking a few bangs.

    He was even trying to get the standards scrum caps are made to changed to provide more protection!

    Even think about the name scrum cap. It's for use in the scrum when your head and ears would be rubbed and abrasied. It was a tool to stop cauliflower ears. Nothing to do with heavy impacts that might cause concussion!




  • A scrum cap is not a helmet. Yes it is better than nothing, but I doubt it gives anywhere near adequate protection of your head in collisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    There are plenty of studies that indicate that a scrum cap will do little to prevent concussion. It's great to take the sting out of a knock and to protect the ears while scrummaging, mauling etc but that's about it.

    Also, don't get one online unless you've tried it on, or ideally had a lend of the same one to try out in anger. I got a Canterbury that was very uncomfortable around the chin/throat, so just had to ditch it. I got a puma one last year which is better, but not as good as a RugbyTech one that I bought years ago. I think it was the same one that Anthony Foley used to wear. Very, very comfy:

    Foley-Munster.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    A scrum cap is not a helmet. Yes it is better than nothing, but I doubt it gives anywhere near adequate protection of your head in collisions.
    Eoin wrote: »
    There are plenty of studies that indicate that a scrum cap will do little to prevent concussion.

    Lads, I just asked where to buy one?!

    I've heard that about scrum caps re concussions, and I understand fully that they need to have such a disclaimer. But in my experience they do lessen the impact on the head area significantly (knees in ruck etc) and as such offer protection against potential concussions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    Not complete protection of course..... Just 'some' protection, which is a hell of a lot better than nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    ALH-06 wrote: »
    Lads, I just asked where to buy one?!

    I've heard that about scrum caps re concussions, and I understand fully that they need to have such a disclaimer. But in my experience they do lessen the impact on the head area significantly (knees in ruck etc) and as such offer protection against potential concussions!

    Just pointing it out as you mentioned multiple concussions. Feel free to ignore.

    If you're based near South Dublin, then try Active Sports in the Blackrock SC, or Elverys in Dundrum maybe.


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