going straight into a job after the LC?

david....

Hi.
Well im doing my LC now this year and hopefully il be getting 300+ points anyway.

My brother is currently in college and my parents are not getting any grant and are finding it very hard to pay for 1 in college never mind 2 which will be done if i go next year.
iv been working in a supermarket for the last 3 years aswell and i would probably be able to get a full-time in that but id prefer something different if i finish school.

i always wanted to be a property auctioneer and did my work experience in this but without a degree do u think it will be virtually impossible to get a job? i live in west cork btw?

im a people person aswell and wouldn't mind any job in business besides a rep.

do ye think there would be any of these types of jobs out there for the likes of me?
all opinions welcome!

Thanks

Fbjm

I'm definitely no expert, but I'd be fairly certain that it's nigh-on impossible to get a job without any qualifications, especially in an area like business. Sure your parents will find it hard for say three years or so, but would they not think it's worth it to give you the best chance in life?

Delancey

TBH OP the Auctioneering / Property industry is in the toilet now and likely to say that way for a long time , you may need to think of another career path.

partyatmygaff

I'd say do your utmost to get in to college. Getting a job without qualifications today is more difficult than ever.

focusowner

Go to college and work part time to fund your self even if it necessitates taking a year out to build up some funds before you go that way ypur parents are not under as much pressure and a year down the line your brother will be onevyear closer to being finished

Mr. Loverman

You don't have to go to college full-time.

For example, I did my masters at night part-time, and another post grad by distance learning part-time. I'd also almost say I did my full-time degree part-time, as I worked 30 hours per week during that...!

I would highly highly highly recommend you go to college. It makes life easier in the long run. For example, I could do a masters in X now and easily switch career. Without a degree this is difficult.

So just find something you can do part-time or via distance learning.

Check this out:

http://www.oscail.ie/

babsybaby01

If your parents apply for a grant for you next year the vec/council will ask for bank statements for THIS year along with your pps number,Because you are working it will seriously damage any chan e you have of getting a grant.I've just finished the process for my son and the amount of paper work from employers to revenue they look for is an eye opener...Start saving if I were you because you maynotbe entitled to anything and god only knows what more cuts and conditions for grants will come in the next budget....Best of luck with the choice you make

biZrb

With one child already in college the requirements for a grant is reduced, not sure how much but its something you should look in to.

If you spent a year working full time in the supermarket, just to build up some cash for college that'd be a good option.

But defo go to college. Its hard to find a job with a degree, even harder without.

starlit

david.... wrote: »

Hi.
Well im doing my LC now this year and hopefully il be getting 300+ points anyway.

My brother is currently in college and my parents are not getting any grant and are finding it very hard to pay for 1 in college never mind 2 which will be done if i go next year.
iv been working in a supermarket for the last 3 years aswell and i would probably be able to get a full-time in that but id prefer something different if i finish school.

i always wanted to be a property auctioneer and did my work experience in this but without a degree do u think it will be virtually impossible to get a job? i live in west cork btw?

im a people person aswell and wouldn't mind any job in business besides a rep.

do ye think there would be any of these types of jobs out there for the likes of me?
all opinions welcome!

Thanks

There is a possibility you might get a job in business but it be something similar to what you have work experience in since you have worked there three years you might be in with some chance of getting a job but I think full time might be hard to get with just the LC, more likely to get a job part time. I think if you think about it, it be worth getting a part time job and studying! You couldn't always expect your parents to foot the bill and not be able to get a grant. Working part time might be the option but you and your parents could finance college if you wanted. If at all a possible maybe a short course maybe two to three year business course rather than four long term might work out more financially viable.

If you wish to do four years full time then maybe taking a break in between and working might help and take the odd year out there is no harm in doing that if financially you are struggling but having been in college might increase your chances of employment!?

I'd suggest go to college full time if you can and work part time otherwise if you think you could land a full time job then do a course part time at night say or if you got some kind of job you could study part time during the day say!? There are load of options there but I wouldn't advise on online distance learning unless you already hold a college qualification!

Good luck with your decision OP!

Mrs OBumble

Why don't you apply for college, and look for jobs at the same time? If you find a job, take it and defer the college.

IMHO, if you're not keen on actually going and learning, you're better off getting real work experience. When it comes to hiring, you can have all the quals in the world, but without experience they're not much use to you.

And a year in a low paid, dead end job might make you a lot more motivated to study and get something better.

yutta

There's a lot to be said for getting stuck into a bit of work straight after school. Third level education has devalued a lot in recent years. If you can get a job - go for it. You'll have three/four years' experience by the time all your mates hit the job market. That 3/4 years is worth more to an employer than any piece of paper.

Try and get any prospective employer to train you up - kind of like an apprenticeship scheme. Don't just go and be somebody's donkey, though there's always donkey work when you're new.

Oranage2

Going to college isnt the end all and be all - And I've been

I would agree with JustMary 110% - apply for college and look for a job - If you get a job then defer college, if not then go to college.

3-4 business degree is worth very little these days -

longhalloween

Stay in work, save your money then, the year your brother is finishing apply through the CAO and go to college.

You have more money, your in college, financial pressure on the family isn't worsened (prob easier in the brother has a job) and your a little older and more able to appreciate college having seen what minimum wage work is like.

Perfect!

Dan133269

Hello David just out of curiousity which supermarket is it?

I'm not familiar with all of them but I did work in Tesco for three years when I was about your age. Funnily enough this is something I was thinking about last night. If I was that age again, I would seriously consider going for the Tesco management programme, I think other supermarkets like SuperValu have similar schemes.

Basically you do the exam and training course and then become a trainee manager, if you are willing to travel and work in neighbouring supermarkets when the positions come up, you could climb the ladder very quickly. The reason it's so easy relatively speaking to climb the ladder is because once someone in a management position any of the the particular chain of supermarkets (say Tesco for the sake of argument) gets a promotion, leaves, etc, his job becomes available and when someone takes his job and then another vacancy arises. Because there are so many management positions in the Tesco hierarchy you could easy find yourself climbing the ranks.

This is not something to be sniggered at either, even during the boom years. As far as I know the money is really good. My old manager in Tesco was from west Cork actually, if I remember correctly, he started working as a trolley boy at 16, eventually did the management course and became a manager, climbed his way to the top. I saw him a while ago, he's the general manager of one of the Tesco stores. He's in his mid 30's and drives a brand new bmw 7 series.

Just an idea, just because an opportunity is in front of you and is an obvious one doesn't mean it is the wrong or easy option.

Best of luck anyway.