VRT Commercial Vehicle nightmare!!!

seabre

Hi All

I bought a Toyota Hiace Powervan S SWB and was getting some work done on it up north with the previous owner before I brought it in. I am now trying to bring the van into the state ad it is proving to be a nightmare to say the least.

Firstly the Revenues VRT calculator does not seem to recognise my exact van type and is telling me a Toyota Hiace is a category B vehicle and liable to 13% of its value.

Secondly it is calculating the value at ....wait for it a staggering 5600 euro!!! The van is 01 with over 100k miles on the clock - I paid 1350 pounds for it!!! The VRT on their value for the van is 750 euro - long way from the 200 euro I was assured was liable for commercial vehicles!

When I rang the revenue they cannot do calculations for specific vehicles over the phone - neither can the NCTS - They advised me if I cant find my exact vehicle type on the system I would need to go ahead with a booking for importation and find out on the day if it is classed as category B or category C vehicle!!!

I can apparently do a calculation of: Gross vehicle weight, divided by Mass in service and if that is over 130% I do have a category c vehicle - the less than 4 seats is no longer enough to class it as such alone!

Any help on how to find out the figures to do this calculation would be welcome or indeed if anyone knows of a definitive way of finding out my vehicle classification I would be most greatful! - Oh and can I dispute the value of my van should I be liable for 13% of its value - Thanks.

R.O.R

I think you are going to need the Certificate of Conformity for the vehicle to get the official "Mass In Service". That's the only place I've ever seen that terminology used.

If it still has the handbook in the vehicle, it might have figures in there.

Only info in the oldest Commercial sales guide I have is for the 2002 onwards LWB model.
GVW is 3,000kg on that with a payload of 1,245kg, which means an unleaden weight of 1,755kg (which seems very high to me for a panel van).

The Plus model has a higher payload, but the same GVW so apparently it weighs less

To get the Certificate of Conformity, you are probably best to contact Toyota UK.

Eric Cartman

once its under 2307kg kerb weight it should be a cat C vehicle, and that would seem a fairly heavy weight for a hiace ,

seabre

Eric Cartman wrote: »

once its under 2307kg kerb weight it should be a cat C vehicle, and that would seem a fairly heavy weight for a hiace ,

Thanks Eric - Do you mind me asking where you got this info from - would be nice to be able to go in forearmed with the info - Thanks

R.O.R

Eric Cartman wrote: »

once its under 2307kg kerb weight it should be a cat C vehicle, and that would seem a fairly heavy weight for a hiace ,

seabre wrote: »

Thanks Eric - Do you mind me asking where you got this info from - would be nice to be able to go in forearmed with the info - Thanks

I think that might be the old regulations, only new regulations I can find are:

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/revised-vehicle-classification.html

Which is only what you have.

Eric Cartman

seabre wrote: »

Thanks Eric - Do you mind me asking where you got this info from - would be nice to be able to go in forearmed with the info - Thanks

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/revised-vehicle-classification.html

Category N1 - Vehicles that, at the time of manufacture, have less than four seats and have a technically permissible maximum laden mass weight that is greater than 130 per cent of the mass in service of the vehicle with bodywork in running order

mass in service = kerb weight , since the GVW is 3000kg the MIS / Kerb weight would need to be 2307 or under to qualify ,

get it weighed at a weighbridge and explain this to them

seabre

Ah thanks Eric - No one on the phone seemed to understand the terms - no more than myself of course!! Thanks again for your help.

shamwari

I had reason to query the rate on a conversion of a commercial jeep (cat to its passenger carrying equivalent (cat A). I rang a VRO here in Dublin and unfortunately the didn't know answer and kept trying to bounce me to the NCTS. After much perseverance, I eventually got a number for Revenue in Rosslare and they knew the answers straight away. I'd say ring them directly and see how you get on (number on revenue website)