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Driving on a learners permit

  • 27-09-2011 12:02pm
    #1
    Brother Psychosis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭


    I know what the law says on both driving unaccompanied and not displaying L plates on a learners permit, but with a two month old learner permit, i can't get my full license until the new year. I am now under pressure with work to be driving full time. What is the reality of driving alone/without L plates? alternatively, is there any way of circumventing the 6 month waiting period?

    nb: i am not looking for advice on how to break the law, merely if there are any exceptions or leeway in this regard


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  • #2
    Compton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    Brother Psychosis wrote: »
    I know what the law says on both driving unaccompanied and not displaying L plates on a learners permit, but with a two month old learner permit, i can't get my full license until the new year. I am now under pressure with work to be driving full time. What is the reality of driving alone/without L plates? alternatively, is there any way of circumventing the 6 month waiting period?

    nb: i am not looking for advice on how to break the law, merely if there are any exceptions or leeway in this regard

    1. You must wait 6 months to do the test.

    2. It is illegal to drive by yourself of a LP.

    3. You can get fined 1000 euro for each offence.


  • #3
    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    Brother Psychosis wrote: »
    I know what the law says on both driving unaccompanied and not displaying L plates on a learners permit,
    shblob wrote: »
    1. You must wait 6 months to do the test.

    2. It is illegal to drive by yourself of a LP.

    3. You can get fined 1000 euro for each offence.

    Not very helpful! ...:rolleyes: We were ALL learners once!!!!

    There are no exceptions for the 6 month wait but i'm sure a letter from your employer to the RSA certainly won't make the process any slower!!

    Give them a call and tell them you have a letter and see what they say


  • #4
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    JustAddWater wrote: »
    Not very helpful! ...:rolleyes: We were ALL learners once!!!!

    How is stating the facts "not very helpful"?


  • #5
    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    chin_grin wrote: »
    How is stating the facts "not very helpful"?

    Because he said he already knows the facts. He wants help not facts he already knows


  • #6
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    JustAddWater wrote: »
    Because he said he already knows the facts. He wants help not facts he already knows

    Indeed he does want help but nobody here on boards.ie can change the laws so what help exactly is the OP expecting if he already knows the rules/law?

    Its paramount to posting "How do I not break the law by driving 80km/hour in a 60km/hour zone?"....you can't.

    Stating the facts isn't unhelpful in fairness.


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  • #7
    cosmic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭cosmic


    Brother Psychosis wrote: »
    I am now under pressure with work to be driving full time.

    Why would your employer be putting pressure on you to drive full time, knowing that you don't have a full licence? This makes no sense. Unless you mean that you are under pressure to drive to and from work daily, in which case, see if one of your co-workers (who has a full licence for 2+years) would commute with you. It'd be handy for them, they don't have to drive or pay for petrol, and you get to do all the driving you like.


  • #8
    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    There is no way around the 6 month wait.

    Just be aware that you can apply for your test at any time, I believe you can leave a note on the application stating the date you can take the test on.


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    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #10
    Gavo175
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    <SNIP>....This is just what I have heard, I do not condone breaking the law in any way. :D


  • #11
    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Gavo175 wrote: »
    <SNIP>....This is just what I have heard, I do not condone breaking the law in any way. :D

    Posts encouraging others to act illegally are not allowed on this forum, or Boards.ie. Since you are a new poster you can take this as your warning.

    Please read the charter before posting in forums.

    This is the Learning to Drive charter.


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  • #12
    Gavo175
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭Gavo175


    <SNIP>


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    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #14
    Brother Psychosis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Brother Psychosis


    cosmic wrote: »
    Why would your employer be putting pressure on you to drive full time, knowing that you don't have a full licence?

    i'm self employed and my travel commitments are now looking a lot heftier than i originally thought and to various different places, so car pooling etc is out. public transport isn't always helpful either

    for the record, i know what the penalties are on paper - perhaps i wasnt clear enough, i was really just wondering what the reality of the situation is and if anyone had any experience of how Gardai treat it at the roadside


  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP, you ask about the reality of driving by yourself - it is indeed illegal as others have said. I did it though, and was never stopped, but I was prepared to pay the consequences if I was stopped. It doesn't lesson the illegality of it, but I kept the L plates up to alert other drivers that I was still learning.

    To lesson the wait, I believe you can apply for a test before the 6 months are up, but that you can't take a test before the 6 months are up. So perhaps keep that in mind.

    Finally, it's best to always consider that you're always learning when you're on the road, and that everyone else is an idiot. Best of luck.


  • #16
    nlgbbbblth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    Dónal wrote: »
    It doesn't lesson the illegality of it, but I kept the L plates up to alert other drivers that I was still learning.

    The fine is twice as much if no L plates are displayed. OP would crazy to take them down.


  • #17
    [Deleted User]
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    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    The fine is twice as much if no L plates are displayed. You'd be crazy to take them down.

    Yup. But most when driving by themselves take down the L plates because they don't want to draw attention to themselves, which isn't the point if you're still learning. I know plenty of my mates who have been on permits for years just took down the L plates when the regulations changed and still drive with them down.


  • #18
    nlgbbbblth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    Dónal wrote: »
    Yup. But most when driving by themselves take down the L plates because they don't want to draw attention to themselves, which isn't the point if you're still learning. I know plenty of my mates who have been on permits for years just took down the L plates when the regulations changed and still drive with them down.

    I agree - the L plates should be kept up to send the message to other drivers that one is still learning. Seems irresponsible not to have them.


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