Unusual cattle in Co Meath

MajorMax

On the road between Kilcock and Enfield near the old bog road, I spotted a herd of cattle. The strange thing is that they all had fully developed horns, their colouring was slightly unusual. Rusty coloured splotches over a tan body. Almost like a Texas Longhorn but with smaller horns

My uncle had a cattle farm (Beef) in Wicklow and he always de-horned his cattle to prevent them scoring each other. Why would these be left horned?

Does anyone have any info on these cattle?

pakalasa

Parthanaise



Aubrac




Any of the above?
They were probably imported, hence the horns.

MajorMax

No the colouring is wrong, more splotchy

pakalasa

Have a trail through this.
http://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/beef/

Cavanjack

MajorMax wrote: »

On the road between Kilcock and Enfield near the old bog road, I spotted a herd of cattle. The strange thing is that they all had fully developed horns, their colouring was slightly unusual. Rusty coloured splotches over a tan body. Almost like a Texas Longhorn but with smaller horns

My uncle had a cattle farm (Beef) in Wicklow and he always de-horned his cattle to prevent them scoring each other. Why would these be left horned?

Does anyone have any info on these cattle?

Drove that way a few weeks ago look like shorthorns with big horns.

Atilathehun

You saw Longhorn cattle, like this guy

Rovi

Atilathehun wrote: »

You saw Longhorn cattle, like this guy

That's a 'gal'

Atilathehun

Rovi wrote: »

That's a 'gal'

Shure tis impossible to tell between guys and gals these days:P

Bizzum

There is a chap outside Enfield with a some Vosgienne cattle but these don't fit the description.
Could they be Maine Anjou I wonder?

MajorMax

I had a look at the link below. They look like shorthorns to me. I wonder what they're doing there

http://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/beef/

Kovu

MajorMax wrote: »

I had a look at the link below. They look like shorthorns to me. I wonder what they're doing there

http://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/beef/

Shorthorns are a native Irish breed.....

Bizzum

Karen112 wrote: »

Shorthorns are a native Irish breed.....

I thought they were English?

http://www.irishshorthorns.com/index.php/society/breed-history

I see links between Shorthorn and Maine Anjou. I never knew that!

newmug

MajorMax wrote: »

I had a look at the link below. They look like shorthorns to me. I wonder what they're doing there

http://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/beef/

Grazin and back-chawin I'd say! Nothing unusual about shorthorns, they're all over the country!

johngalway

Atilathehun wrote: »

You saw Longhorn cattle, like this guy

So what's the deal with longhorn cattle and their, uhm, horns? Do they get some type of dispensation or are they subject to the same rules as other breeds?

leg wax

johngalway wrote: »

So what's the deal with longhorn cattle and their, uhm, horns? Do they get some type of dispensation or are they subject to the same rules as other breeds?

they weigh better at the mart with the horns ,

pakalasa

Shorthorns with long horns. Isn't that an Oxymoron.:D
Fook it, I'm well awake for 8 in the morning.

Kovu

Bizzum wrote: »

I thought they were English?

http://www.irishshorthorns.com/index.php/society/breed-history

I see links between Shorthorn and Maine Anjou. I never knew that!

I could be wrong, they just have always seemed to be around. Would you know if British blues originated in Britain or have they just stolen the breed? Just wondering, it confused me at Balmoral this year.

Bizzum

Karen112 wrote: »

Would you know if British blues originated in Britain or have they just stolen the breed? Just wondering, it confused me at Balmoral this year.

My understanding of British Blues is that they are not a breed in the same way as Irish Angus are not a breed.
They are BB bred in the UK.

Bactidiaryl

Atilathehun wrote: »

You saw Longhorn cattle, like this guy

I hope he dont have diagional feed barriers in the slatted unit.

Rovi

johngalway wrote: »

So what's the deal with longhorn cattle and their, uhm, horns? Do they get some type of dispensation or are they subject to the same rules as other breeds?

I'm pretty sure the law is a general ban on the sale of horned cattle in marts or for export, with a dispensation for pedigree and 'special' breeds.
This stuff is covered by the Diseases of Animals Act, 1966, Section 54, but I can't find anything official anywhere detailing what is currently 'ordered exempt' by the Minister.

sculptor

They are english longhorn. Which were mysteriously improved by Bakewell in the late 1700's. Which had nothing to do with the 50,000 'inferior':rolleyes: Irish LongHorn (now extinct) that used to land every year in Melton Mowbay and walk past his farm on the way to London.

jc bamford

As far as I know the rules involved in 'Organic food production' do not allow cattle to be dehorned. Whatever about the breed, this could account for the horns.

Juniorhurler

Bizzum wrote: »

My understanding of British Blues is that they are not a breed in the same way as Irish Angus are not a breed.
They are BB bred in the UK.

Kind of right I think. They are bred based on the Belgian blue but they have to be able to valve their own calves naturally, I.e without a caesarean. I am reasonably sure that's the case anyhow.

The Royal Scam

Would they be part of larcill I wonder

See the picture on the website?


http://www.rte.ie/tv/waterways/pages/features/larchill-arcadia.html

Justjens

jc bamford wrote: »

As far as I know the rules involved in 'Organic food production' do not allow cattle to be dehorned.

News to me..........