Irons bent to a certain loft.

Creasy_bear

I recently bought a new set of irons. I was getting such a good deal on them I never bothered to check the specs.

They are 2 degrees weeker than my last set. I've had them out now for around 6 comps and time and time again, I'm coming up short. Hitting them so much higher than before.

I'm just wondering is it possible to have them bent to two degrees stronger

and if so, would it be expensive?

heavyballs

Creasy_bear wrote: »

I recently bought a new set of irons. I was getting such a good deal on them I never bothered to check the specs.

They are 2 degrees weeker than my last set. I've had them out now for around 6 comps and time and time again, I'm coming up short. Hitting them so much higher than before.

I'm just wondering is it possible to have them bent to two degrees stronger

and if so, would it be expensive?

2 degrees seems a lot,anyway a good pro will probably charge about 70 euro for a set of irons

Corkblowin

Hit the longer club then?

Creasy_bear

heavyballs wrote: »

2 degrees seems a lot,anyway a good pro will probably charge about 70 euro for a set of irons

so it can be done.

thanks.

stockdam

I don't know.......I think cast clubs are not easy to adjust the loft without weakening the strength of the club - I'm probably wrong though.

I don't see what your problem is to be honest. Why not just recalibrate your distances........if you were hitting a 7 iron 155 yards and now it's 150 then just accept the new length? Hitting your 7 iron 150 yards each time is more important than being able to hit it 160-ish.

Creasy_bear

Corkblowin wrote: »

Hit the longer club then?

it's not just about hitting one more club. It's all about confidence. Standing over a certain shot knowing how far you can hit a certain club. Even the smallest things like chipping around the greens. The ball comes off club face differently. When you have played with a wedge thats a certain loft for years you want to stick with what you know.

Corkblowin

I know exactly what you mean about confidence - but without trying to be a smart-Alec or wise after the event - it wasn't that important when you were getting a great deal.

If you're getting them adjusted don't go cheap - make sure it's a good guy who's used to doing such things. Good luck with it.

dubber

Won't adjusting the loft affect bounce ... might there be a negative consequence of that?

Creasy_bear

Corkblowin wrote: »

I know exactly what you mean about confidence - but without trying to be a smart-Alec or wise after the event - it wasn't that important when you were getting a great deal.

If you're getting them adjusted don't go cheap - make sure it's a good guy who's used to doing such things. Good luck with it.

I agree, but when I was buying a "tp" version of an iron I was expecting them to be a normal loft, not a loft that actually makes you hit the ball higher/helps you get the ball airborn

anywho.....I'll ask my pro.

thanks all.

Corkblowin

Just one last thing - when I was coming down I spent months working with our pro to hit my irons higher so that I wasn't relying on spin as much to get the ball to stop - especially when playing to hard greens.

Creasy_bear

Corkblowin wrote: »

Just one last thing - when I was coming down I spent months working with our pro to hit my irons higher so that I wasn't relying on spin as much to get the ball to stop - especially when playing to hard greens.

you're situation is far different to mine though I play on a course where it's blowing a gale 8 times out of 10. Today was a joke.
Hitting the ball high on my course, is like pissin into the wind.

stockdam

dubber wrote: »

Won't adjusting the loft affect bounce ... might there be a negative consequence of that?

Yes it would but since the OP wants to strengthen the lie then the bounce would be a bit less. Bounce could be added by grinding the sole.

GreeBo

heavyballs wrote: »

2 degrees seems a lot,anyway a good pro will probably charge about 70 euro for a set of irons

€15 more like...

Once they have the loft & lie machine its a 30 min task.

gokster

The weaker lofts are normal when going to a 'TP' iron. The game or super game inprovement irons are designed with stronger lofts to give the higher handicap in effect an extra club. Tradiationally a pitching wedge was 48 degrees but in most game improvement sets they are now 45 degrees.

So your 9 iron is now pretty much the same as your old wedge. For me this is a help, in my old set I hit the stronger wedge 140-150 so everything from there in was a half shot or felt I was choking down. Now my PW is about 125-130ish and I hit an eight iron roughly 150, add in a gap wedge and I generally have a full shot option for every shot outside 100 yards..

Kace

GreeBo wrote: »

€15 more like...

Once they have the loft & lie machine its a 30 min task.

PureGolf in Leopardstown charge €5 per club so that's aboiut €50 for the set.

k.p.h

gokster wrote: »

The weaker lofts are normal when going to a 'TP' iron. The game or super game inprovement irons are designed with stronger lofts to give the higher handicap in effect an extra club. Tradiationally a pitching wedge was 48 degrees but in most game improvement sets they are now 45 degrees.

So your 9 iron is now pretty much the same as your old wedge. For me this is a help, in my old set I hit the stronger wedge 140-150 so everything from there in was a half shot or felt I was choking down. Now my PW is about 125-130ish and I hit an eight iron roughly 150, add in a gap wedge and I generally have a full shot option for every shot outside 100 yards..

Thats spot on, I was going to say this too. Their are advantages to playing with the weaker lofts hence the TP or "players" irons having the weaker lofts. Mostly to accommodate a set of wedges gaped properly. Worth considering anyway but personal preference is obviously the most important thing.

GreeBo

Kace wrote: »

PureGolf in Leopardstown charge €5 per club so that's aboiut €50 for the set.

Either of the Pro's in Grange will do them for half that

Tones69

Kace wrote: »

PureGolf in Leopardstown charge €5 per club so that's aboiut €50 for the set.

Dont know many dudes with 10 irons, even if he had 3-pw its 8 irons, talking 40 blippys tops

Kace

Tones69 wrote: »

Dont know many dudes with 10 irons, even if he had 3-pw its 8 irons, talking 40 blippys tops

Maybe it's just me then......4 5 6 7 8 9 Pitch Gap Sand Lob

wcarey1975

And me too 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,PW,SW,AW

Tones69

Kace wrote: »

Maybe it's just me then......4 5 6 7 8 9 Pitch Gap Sand Lob

To get bent i meant obviously! U hardly bent your sad wedge and lob wedge did you??

GreeBo

Tones69 wrote: »

To get bent i meant obviously! U hardly bent your sad wedge and lob wedge did you??

Why wouldnt you?
My LW was off by nearly 2 degrees when I got mine done.

Tones69

GreeBo wrote: »

Why wouldnt you?
My LW was off by nearly 2 degrees when I got mine done.

ok then il retract my statement, normally peeps dont have to get their wedges done just the irons, guess il just shut my big mouth!

Deco1983

nice try Tones!!

Creasy_bear

Update.

so I spoke to a lad today that does it......he said you can only bend clubs that are forged

Then I spoke to my mate that's a pro......he said you can with my irons but no more that 2 degrees either way. My irons are not forged.

Then I spoke to my local pro......he said you can bend most irons nowadays.

Are there any pros on here? can you actually bend the lofts of the irons? or is it just the lie of them that can be bent?

k.p.h

It's really to do with the cast/forged scenario. You can bend all clubs but with cast clubs the risk of them breaking is high enough in some cases, I have also read somewhere they tend not to hold the bend as well as forged clubs.

So Pro 1 won't take the risk of breaking them, Pro 2 will but only to a certain extent , Pro 3 will but I reckon he also will only to a certain extent.

So all in all they can be bent, not too much, and their is a slight risk of them breaking. you must assume the risk if you want to get them done. I have also read somewhere that manufactures now design clubs and allow for a 2* bend as it is a common enough thing to do when custom fitting.

I reckon get them to the Pro you know and let him work away on them.

Also Tones worth taking a look in the equipment sections of some of the popular golf magazines websites. They usually have a in the Pros Bags section. It's really interesting when you look at their setups, a lot of them have clubs bent every which way from drivers right down to wedges. It took me a while to cop why but its obvious when you think about it, they gap their clubs by distance and not the degree or number printed on it.

Bubba Watson has his 60* bent to 63* too :eek: Awesome

GreeBo

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Update.

so I spoke to a lad today that does it......he said you can only bend clubs that are forged

Then I spoke to my mate that's a pro......he said you can with my irons but no more that 2 degrees either way. My irons are not forged.

Then I spoke to my local pro......he said you can bend most irons nowadays.

Are there any pros on here? can you actually bend the lofts of the irons? or is it just the lie of them that can be bent?

My Pro said that most of them will send cast clubs to the manufacturer in case they break.

Mizuno Man

Just for what it's worth, they may be more to it than just the loft. 2 degrees sounds like a lot but it really isn't. Most clubs have 4 degree gaps between them. That means 2 degrees will be no more than 6 yards difference in carry if you're a long hitter and less if you're not. And the ball flight should not be significantly different. A two degree weak 8 iron will fly higher but still won't be as high as your old 9 iron. It sounds to me like you are struggling with a much bigger difference than that.

So if you didn't check the specs it is probably much more likely to be a shaft issue. What shaft was in your old clubs and what shaft is in the new ones?

Kace

You should also see whether there is a specification listed on the manufacturers web site. My clubs are forged and have 'Bendability' listed as +/- 6-8 degrees.

Agree with others re cast clubs. Don't even attempt to have them bent unless manufacturer has specified that they can be. AFAIK all Pings are cast but can be bent by a degree or two if required. Personally I wouldn't chance it with cast.

GreeBo

Mizuno Man wrote: »

2 degrees sounds like a lot but it really isn't. Most clubs have 4 degree gaps between them.

dont forget that if you have only 2 degrees between your 5 and 6 iron then you have 6 degrees between your 4 and 5 (or your 6 and 7)
By your example thats ~18 yards between two clubs

Mizuno Man

GreeBo wrote: »

dont forget that if you have only 2 degrees between your 5 and 6 iron then you have 6 degrees between your 4 and 5 (or your 6 and 7)
By your example thats ~18 yards between two clubs

The majority of sets actually have 4 degree seperation between lofts down to the 5 and then 3 degrees from there, but I know what you saying.

However, I believe the OP is saying that his entire set is 2 degrees weak. Not just one or two clubs....