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Game dealer

  • 25-09-2011 8:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭


    Just thought Id mention lads anyone selling game should hold onto receipts as you will need them for the tax man for returns it is classed as earnings :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭podge.243
    Paul Murphy


    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Apprently not if they are shot on Sundays.:p

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭browning 12 bore


    dont think that haas come into affect yet i was told maybe i was mis informed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    650gs wrote: »
    Just thought Id mention lads anyone selling game should hold onto receipts as you will need them for the tax man for returns it is classed as earnings :confused:

    And whats wrong with that isnt it normal to pay tax on additional earnings. easiest way to get rid of that is give your surplus away like the stalkers I know do. In fairness if your selling game are you not doing it as a buisness:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭650gs


    Some of us do it for a living and yes it has come in and yes if your doing someting and getting payed for it you pay tax even if you work on Sundays AND RIGHTLY SO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Mountainy Jack


    650gs wrote: »
    Some of us do it for a living and yes it has come in and yes if your doing someting and getting payed for it you pay tax even if you work on Sundays AND RIGHTLY SO

    Very few (if any) legitimate hunters do it for a living I would say. Some recoup some expenses from a few sales but I wouldn't say there are any legitimate hunters knocking a wage out of venison sales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    Very few (if any) legitimate hunters do it for a living I would say. Some recoup some expenses from a few sales but I wouldn't say there are any legitimate hunters knocking a wage out of venison sales

    since he says he shot 4 on the first morning it must make a handy wage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Mountainy Jack


    garv123 wrote: »
    Very few (if any) legitimate hunters do it for a living I would say. Some recoup some expenses from a few sales but I wouldn't say there are any legitimate hunters knocking a wage out of venison sales

    since he says he shot 4 on the first morning it must make a handy wage.

    That doesnt prove anything Garv. You would want to be leaving in an awful lot of animals to make a living out of it. You would want to be selling far more than that for every week of the season. Easier said than done. I'm not saying some guys aren't making a few bob, their ain't a living in it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭ring 20


    if times are tough why not make a few bob out of it, keep recipts for bullets diesel and the likes too, that quiten tax man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭seoirse1980


    I believe the revenue have started targeting game dealers, taking the names of people who have been dropping deer in and cross referencing the names with those on the dole. Going back as far as five years! I'd imagine they'll be looking for the dole repayments back:eek:

    I've no doubt this will dramatically reduce the large scale poaching carried out by some...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Deerspotter


    I believe the revenue have started targeting game dealers, taking the names of people who have been dropping deer in and cross referencing the names with those on the dole. Going back as far as five years! I'd imagine they'll be looking for the dole repayments back:eek:

    I've no doubt this will dramatically reduce the large scale poaching carried out by some...

    I wish they were that organised!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    You would have to be dropping about hypothecially ten a week @180 euros +/- to be making any sort of decent money.. Say 1800 euros times 24weeks[full seasonSept1st /Feb28th] 43,200 euros Gross.

    IF you were doing this above board and able to shoot that many..
    About the lower national industrial wage??? FS!!! If you ran that as a busisness with recipts,equipment depreciation,and seasonal work, etc and a good accountant,the tax man wouldnt be getting much of a cut of that.
    ASFIK that sum is even below the threshold for registering VAT ??

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭tfox


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    You would have to be dropping about hypothecially ten a week @180 euros +/- to be making any sort of decent money.. Say 1800 euros times 24weeks[full seasonSept1st /Feb28th] 43,200 euros Gross.

    IF you were doing this above board and able to shoot that many..
    About the lower national industrial wage??? FS!!! If you ran that as a busisness with recipts,equipment depreciation,and seasonal work, etc and a good accountant,the tax man wouldnt be getting much of a cut of that.
    ASFIK that sum is even below the threshold for registering VAT ??

    I'm sure that whatever you profited from a sale to a game dealer, would be easily written off against diesel reciepts, ammo, lease costs, subsistance for your days hunting, equipment purchases etc. ?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭650gs


    As a company that is registered and fully tax complaint with the revenue, specialising in all kinds of pest and vermin control we shoot deer all year round on sec 42 not only in season we work all over the country and the customer is charged for a service that we provide, the carcases are counted as a bonus 99% people do not want them.
    On one estate and Golf club in county Wicklow so far this year we have shot 57 deer there are no shortage of them at all and we are still trying to sort there problem including out.
    I might ad its a very profitable business we run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭tfox


    650gs wrote: »
    As a company that is registered and fully tax complaint with the revenue, specialising in all kinds of pest and vermin control we shoot deer all year round on sec 42 not only in season we work all over the country and the customer is charged for a service that we provide, the carcases are counted as a bonus 99% people do not want them.
    On one estate and Golf club in county Wicklow so far this year we have shot 57 deer there are no shortage of them at all and we are still trying to sort there problem including out.
    I might ad its a very profitable business we run.

    any jobs going :rolleyes::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭.243


    tfox wrote: »
    any jobs going :rolleyes::D
    ill second that ,have gun will travel :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    That doesnt prove anything Garv. You would want to be leaving in an awful lot of animals to make a living out of it. You would want to be selling far more than that for every week of the season. Easier said than done. I'm not saying some guys aren't making a few bob, their ain't a living in it though.

    4 deer.meant to be stags. what would they weight? 40 kgs? 2.00-2.40 a kg? 80 euro a deer. 320 euro in the first day.

    sure most people arent doing this but some are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    650gs wrote: »
    As a company that is registered and fully tax complaint with the revenue, specialising in all kinds of pest and vermin control we shoot deer all year round on sec 42 not only in season we work all over the country and the customer is charged for a service that we provide, the carcases are counted as a bonus 99% people do not want them.
    On one estate and Golf club in county Wicklow so far this year we have shot 57 deer there are no shortage of them at all and we are still trying to sort there problem including out.
    I might ad its a very profitable business we run.


    Question..Would you be making a profit without the sect 42???
    As you are doing this as a company that obviously provides an advanced form of "pest control"So obviously you would be tax compliant etc...Well and good.You are in a different leauge to somone who shoots three or four surplus deer and sells them on,and from the illegal deer harvester who doesnt have a sect42 and is using the 28weeks to stock up the bank account.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭steyrprohunter


    I agree grizzly45!! What this individual is talking about is a registered?? company specialising in deer control. The average deer stalker would be laughed at by the revenue if he wanted to declare an income fron deer shooting. For starters there'd be tax credits to consider, all the expenditure form hunting. And for what- selling maybe 10-15 carcasses a year. I dont think theres anything to panic about yet.


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