Why isnt

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Luke Donald spoke about as highly as tiger. The man is a machine. Maybe not a winning machine but boy is he consistant.

Nerdstrom

Woods - 14

Donald - 0

...might have something to do with it. (sigh)

Tiger also won the world u18 junior championships 3 years running as a 15, 16 and 17 year old. Then after turning 18 won the US amateur championship 3 times in a row while being 18, 19 and 20, including a couple of huge fightbacks in 2 of the finals. One 36 hole US am final was against Steve Scott, who was 5up thru 18, and shot 3 under in the 2nd 18, losing on the 35th, to Tiger who covered the last 17 holes in -8.

Then turned pro at the end of 96. Played in his first major as a pro- the 97 masters. After being out in +4 40 on the front9 of the first round, he rallied to shoot even par 72 (this may have been 39-33, cant remember). He the finished the tournament at a record setting 18 under par, so he actually covered the last 63 holes in 22 under, and won by 12 strokes.

THEN changed his swing with Harmon, and his next major win came in 2000 US open at Pebble. Hmmmm, memory escapes me, did he win by 2 or 3, or 15?? :D

To go back to your question, in golf history, players are judged on their no of major wins, and while Luke may have had a couple of top 4s, hes never even really looked like he was favourite to win one coming down the stretch. If you are basing the comparison on the fact that LD has been top two in the world rankings for some time, while TW has been rebuilding his life emotionally and physically, well then if you go back about 9 years, the WR stat were incredible, where tiger had more than double the points of world no 2, i think he had around 16.00 to 7.50 or so, while luke tops it now on 10.52.

To use an English Premier League analogy, IF spurs won the league this yr, to ask next yr, why are spurs not spoke about as highly as Manchester Utd? Spurs are a machine...

After 20 years of MUFC dominance

slave1

Luke's two putting is incomparable however

Adiaga 2

Even majors aside, Luke Donald is having a great season and his pgatour stroke average is very impressive. But one win on the pgatour this year(about 4 or 5 in total in the US) - nothing to right home about. Just shows the vacuum Woods has left and for all the talk of the young guns ready to take his place. Even when VJ got to world no. 1, he won something like 10(yes ten) pgatour events in a season. Donald is having a great year and maybe he can build on this next year and bag some more wins but he's no superstar.

waterville72

Nerdstrom wrote: »

Woods - 14

Donald - 0

...might have something to do with it. (sigh)

Tiger also won the world u18 junior championships 3 years running as a 15, 16 and 17 year old. Then after turning 18 won the US amateur championship 3 times in a row while being 18, 19 and 20, including a couple of huge fightbacks in 2 of the finals. One 36 hole US am final was against Steve Scott, who was 5up thru 18, and shot 3 under in the 2nd 18, losing on the 35th, to Tiger who covered the last 17 holes in -8.

Then turned pro at the end of 96. Played in his first major as a pro- the 97 masters. After being out in +4 40 on the front9 of the first round, he rallied to shoot even par 72 (this may have been 39-33, cant remember). He the finished the tournament at a record setting 18 under par, so he actually covered the last 63 holes in 22 under, and won by 12 strokes.

THEN changed his swing with Harmon, and his next major win came in 2000 US open at Pebble. Hmmmm, memory escapes me, did he win by 2 or 3, or 15?? :D

To go back to your question, in golf history, players are judged on their no of major wins, and while Luke may have had a couple of top 4s, hes never even really looked like he was favourite to win one coming down the stretch. If you are basing the comparison on the fact that LD has been top two in the world rankings for some time, while TW has been rebuilding his life emotionally and physically, well then if you go back about 9 years, the WR stat were incredible, where tiger had more than double the points of world no 2, i think he had around 16.00 to 7.50 or so, while luke tops it now on 10.52.

To use an English Premier League analogy, IF spurs won the league this yr, to ask next yr, why are spurs not spoke about as highly as Manchester Utd? Spurs are a machine...

After 20 years of MUFC dominance

Thats a great response Nerdstrom. Its amazing how quick people forget about Tiger Woods. In my opinion Woods is still the best golfer in the world and apart from some potential of domination shown by McIlroy the rest havent looked any way close to being dominant like Woods was. Sure they have won their tournaments but you couldnt put Donald in the same league as Woods.
Thats like saying Donald is a Hogan or a Nicklaus. Not a chance. No doubting his capability but he wont be going down as one of the greats.
If planet earth had to play an alien planet tomorrow over 18 holes of golf and our future survival depended on it(unlikely I know!) I dont think we would be looking much further than Woods to represent us. Simple as.

Atlantic1

waterville72 wrote: »

Thats a great response Nerdstrom. Its amazing how quick people forget about Tiger Woods. In my opinion Woods is still the best golfer in the world and apart from some potential of domination shown by McIlroy the rest havent looked any way close to being dominant like Woods was. Sure they have won their tournaments but you couldnt put Donald in the same league as Woods.
Thats like saying Donald is a Hogan or a Nicklaus. Not a chance. No doubting his capability but he wont be going down as one of the greats.
If planet earth had to play an alien planet tomorrow over 18 holes of golf and our future survival depended on it(unlikely I know!) I dont think we would be looking much further than Woods to represent us. Simple as.

Woods is the greatest golfer of our generation and nobody in our lifetime is likely to come close to what he has achieved.

That said, few golfers have been as consistent as Luke Donald this year. That's why he's World Number 1 and why Woods is Number 49 today, 24/9/2011. Woods has had injuries and has not played well this year but Donald can only better what's put in front of him and the World Rankings rate him Number 1 at this moment in time for that reason.

Woods has a lot of work to do if he's to get back in the World Top 10, not to mind getting back to Number 1. At the moment, he's yesterday's man. Two years ago I wouldn't have thought that anyone would write something like that.

I'd take my hat off to him if he got back in the Top 10 but, with so many really good players around at the moment, I doubt if he'll ever beat Jack's Major record or get back to World Number 1.

And having watched McIlroy in Killarney, and on tv since he won the U.S. Open, I certainly wouldn't accuse him of potential domination. He's an angry little man when things don't go his way and, in my humble opinion, his greatest potential, at this moment in time, is to be another Colin Montgomerie.

GreeBo

Atlantic1 wrote: »

And having watched McIlroy in Killarney, and on tv since he won the U.S. Open, I certainly wouldn't accuse him of potential domination. He's an angry little man when things don't go his way and, in my humble opinion, his greatest potential, at this moment in time, is to be another Colin Montgomerie.

Ouch.

dnjoyce

waterville72 wrote: »

......If planet earth had to play an alien planet tomorrow over 18 holes of golf and our future survival depended on it(unlikely I know!) I dont think we would be looking much further than Woods to represent us. Simple as.

Surely you jest? There are 48 other guys whose record over the past 2 years is better than Woods. I'm not doubting his past achievements etc etc but on current form he shouldn't even be in the presidents cup team, let alone representing our planet against alien golfers - I'm sure they have google in space, so even they would know that his aura of invincibility has been shattered - perhaps never to return. Donald would have to get the nod in that match.

BoardsMember

dnjoyce wrote: »

Surely you jest? There are 48 other guys whose record over the past 2 years is better than Woods. I'm not doubting his past achievements etc etc but on current form he shouldn't even be in the presidents cup team, let alone representing our planet against alien golfers - I'm sure they have google in space, so even they would know that his aura of invincibility has been shattered - perhaps never to return. Donald would have to get the nod in that match.

Nonsense. Harrington would be the only man for the job. Everyone knows that aliens have the ability to read human thoughts, the poor alients would be head-melted by the first tee with all the stuff flying around in Padraig's head.

HugoBr

interesting thread....2 quick questions though

Has the alien golfer handed in 3 cards to get an official handicap prior to this match?

Given that the Alien golfer is likely to have superior vision to us humans and will have his yardages nailed down, will the human golfer be allowed to use a rangefinder?

stockdam

HugoBr wrote: »

interesting thread....2 quick questions though

Has the alien golfer handed in 3 cards to get an official handicap prior to this match?

Given that the Alien golfer is likely to have superior vision to us humans and will have his yardages nailed down, will the human golfer be allowed to use a rangefinder?

I wouldn't worry. Firstly the alien has no hands to hold the clubs nor has it any eyes so seeing the ball will be a problem; oh and it's only 1 inch tall so may even get eaten by a passing bird.

k.p.h

Atlantic1 wrote: »

And having watched McIlroy in Killarney, and on tv since he won the U.S. Open, I certainly wouldn't accuse him of potential domination. He's an angry little man when things don't go his way and, in my humble opinion, his greatest potential, at this moment in time, is to be another Colin Montgomerie.

<--- Makes mental note to bump this thread on 8/4/2012

mr.jingle

Atlantic1 wrote: »

And having watched McIlroy in Killarney, and on tv since he won the U.S. Open, I certainly wouldn't accuse him of potential domination. He's an angry little man when things don't go his way and, in my humble opinion, his greatest potential, at this moment in time, is to be another Colin Montgomerie.

At least Rory has a major to cheer him up:D

Myksyk

Atlantic1 wrote: »

...having watched McIlroy in Killarney ... his greatest potential, at this moment in time, is to be another Colin Montgomerie.

You mean, the breast golfer of his generation!!?

Atlantic1

k.p.h wrote: »

<--- Makes mental note to bump this thread on 8/4/2012

Aw, come on, K.P.H. We both know that Montgomerie hasn't a hope of winning the Masters!

Atlantic1

mr.jingle wrote: »

At least Rory has a major to cheer him up:D

Yes, Mr. Jingle, but it isn't Colin's fault that he never won a major. What about all those nasty butterflies who regularly disturbed him during tournaments by fluttering their wings in the adjacent meadows?

Myksyk wrote: »

You mean, the breast golfer of his generation!!?

Nice one, Myksyk!

Atlantic1

GreeBo wrote: »

Ouch.

I feel much, much better now, Greebo!

mr.mickels

Nerdstrom wrote: »

Woods - 14

Donald - 0

...might have something to do with it. (sigh)

It might!!!