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Overpayment of SW

  • 23-09-2011 2:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭


    I recently started a new job and get paid monthly. Prior to that was on JSA for a few months. I just got my payslip today and I realised I was paid an extra week that I wasn't expecting. I have closed my JSA claim but had closed it from the date I had assumed I was being paid from. Do I contact my local SW office or the Dept directly to rectify this. I don't mind repaying any SW that was paid in error, is this usually deducted from wages?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    stinkle wrote: »
    I recently started a new job and get paid monthly. Prior to that was on JSA for a few months. I just got my payslip today and I realised I was paid an extra week that I wasn't expecting. I have closed my JSA claim but had closed it from the date I had assumed I was being paid from. Do I contact my local SW office or the Dept directly to rectify this. I don't mind repaying any SW that was paid in error, is this usually deducted from wages?

    You can contact your sw office and find out for certain if there is an overpayment. You can pay this directly to the sw office and you will receive a receipt for the payment. It is not deducted from your wages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    great thanks for the advice, couldn't get through to local office earlier but will persevere next week. mods can close the thread


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Pay it back at 1 euro a week,they cant refuse you on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭brightspark


    Are you sure you got paid an extra week, some monthly salaries have an element of pay in advance as well as in arrears.

    Not many companies will pay you for a week before you start with them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Pay it back at 1 euro a week,they cant refuse you on that.


    yes they can.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    yabadabado wrote: »
    yes they can.


    Eh no they cant.

    If you state to them that you have too many bills to pay and cant afford to pay it all back at once,then you can make a weekly offer to them.

    They cannot refuse you,and if it went to court than a judge will slam the SW for not accepting your offer and failing to sort out a deal/weekly payment plan with you.

    I speak from more or less 1st hand experience of this matter through a family members experience of the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan


    stinkle wrote: »
    I recently started a new job and get paid monthly. Prior to that was on JSA for a few months. I just got my payslip today and I realised I was paid an extra week that I wasn't expecting. I have closed my JSA claim but had closed it from the date I had assumed I was being paid from. Do I contact my local SW office or the Dept directly to rectify this. I don't mind repaying any SW that was paid in error, is this usually deducted from wages?

    As long as you signed off and informed SW of the date on which your job was due to actually commence you have no need for concern.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/signing_off.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Eh no they cant.

    If you state to them that you have too many bills to pay and cant afford to pay it all back at once,then you can make a weekly offer to them.

    They cannot refuse you,and if it went to court than a judge will slam the SW for not accepting your offer and failing to sort out a deal/weekly payment plan with you.

    I speak from more or less 1st hand experience of this matter through a family members experience of the above.
    DSP have tightened up the structure of the overpayments in the last year.They wouldnt refuse you but they will set the weekly amount and its up to you to prove you cant pay it,then it will be decided whats fair.Thay can also set up an overpayment deduction from any scheme you are on(including child benefit) ,it doesnt have to be the one you got overpaid on.
    BTW who is going to bring that to court?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    yabadabado wrote: »
    DSP have tightened up the structure of the overpayments in the last year.They wouldnt refuse you but they will set the weekly amount and its up to you to prove you cant pay it,then it will be decided whats fair.Thay can also set up an overpayment deduction from any scheme you are on(including child benefit) ,it doesnt have to be the one you got overpaid on.
    BTW who is going to bring that to court?


    Did you not read the part where I said that if you have lots of bills and cant afford to pay.

    You tell them what you can afford to pay back and they have to accept that.

    And this particular matter was very reecnt too (6 weeks ago to be precise)


    SW tried to have a family member of mine on this matter,an offer was made and SW flatly refused,even from the word go when written proof was handed into them prooving that the family member was not is a financial position to pay back the overpayment in 1 go.

    SW demanded and hounded the family member with threatening letters and threats of legal action for full repayment.

    A straight to the point and strongly worded letter issued to SW by a FLAC (Free Legal Advice Centre) solicitor soon had the SW back tracking very fast and accpeting my family members original and only offer to them.

    SW are a bunch of spineless numpties sometimes with matters like this.:rolleyes::mad:


    The general and genuine "joe soap" is allways made out to be the villan by SW in matters like this.

    That is not right or fair.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    If people (the genuine joe soap public person) know their rights and actually stand up to the SW system,then they cant be hounded by them or bullied around by them either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Are you sure you got paid an extra week, some monthly salaries have an element of pay in advance as well as in arrears.

    Not many companies will pay you for a week before you start with them!
    No its def an extra week, the contract only arrived this week and the start date is the earlier date. I was taking over the job from someone else and the boss was away that week and was a bit vague beforehand, so there was confusion on my part about the definite date. The only 'work' I would have done is filling out forms and shadowing the guy I was replacing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    paddy147 wrote: »

    SW are a bunch of spineless numpties sometimes with matters like this.:rolleyes::mad:

    .
    This is not a forum for insulting staff of govt departments. Users are reminded to read forum charter before posting.
    User infracted.

    Thread locked at request of OP in an earlier post.


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