Chuggers face fines (UK)

22-09-2011 9:31am #1

I'm pretty sure this will be great news for anyone who has been "assaulted" by these annoying people - Wolverhampton has made it so that any overly aggressive Chuggers will be fined £500. Really hope it catches on over here.

On my mobile, so this is the link www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15005504

Wolverhampton 'chuggers' threatened with fines
Charities employing overly-aggressive street fundraisers, or "chuggers", could face fines in Wolverhampton.
The city council, worried the collectors are putting people off visiting, has warned charities they risk a fine of up to £500.
A spokesman said they could be taken to court if it was found they contravened by-laws introduced last year.
The Public Fundraising Regulatory Association (PFRA) said it was disappointed at the news.
The council has written to the PFRA, the firm which regulates fundraisers, warning it of the situation.
A council spokesman said the warning stemmed from a request made through Twitter, asking for people's thoughts on the fundraisers.

chin_grin · 22-09-2011 9:34am

Great now the grey line of what denotes "overly aggressive". What could be 'cocky-but-cute' to one person would be downright annoying to another.

What's my point? Oh yeah, fine all the chuggers!

Temptamperu · 22-09-2011 9:37am

I say get rid of them all together. Whats wrong with just having the ads on tv that spoil your dinner?

FatherLen · 22-09-2011 9:37am

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

Snakeblood · 22-09-2011 9:38am

chin_grin wrote: »

Great now the grey line of what denotes "overly aggressive". What could be 'cocky-but-cute' to one person would be downright annoying to another.

What's my point? Oh yeah, fine all the chuggers!

Have them institute a no speaking unless spoken to policy, or a set 'Can I ask you to donate to XXXX charity' and if the answer is no, then they have to shut up.

I've never wanted to stab someone so much as a chugger the other day who tried to accost me in the pouring rain, him with an umbrella and me without.

neilthefunkeone · 22-09-2011 9:40am

FatherLen wrote: »

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

Charity muggers..

The hippy in town stopping you for 5 quid a month..

Temptamperu · 22-09-2011 9:40am

FatherLen wrote: »

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

The lads that stand in town in hi vis tops looking for donations to charity.

charity muggers/ chuggers

22-09-2011 9:40am

FatherLen wrote: »

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

A charity mugger.

also thanks to the Magic Elf that fixed my post.

chin_grin · 22-09-2011 9:42am

FatherLen wrote: »

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

Charity + Muggers. You know the ones who just stare at you walking up to them and leap on you like you're a long lost friend that you traveled the world with and owes you money. Except now it feels like you owe them money.

Very good point Snakeblood. Usually at a polite "no thanks" some see this as a challenge and try to accost you harder. F*ckers!

If they gave out a card or a pin to say "I've signed up. Leave me alone"? Then we could all forge them and be about our business in peace! Yay!

OldGoat · 22-09-2011 9:42am

chin_grin wrote: »

Great now the grey line of what denotes "overly aggressive". What could be 'cocky-but-cute' to one person would be downright annoying to another.

What's my point? Oh yeah, fine all the chuggers!

The line is easy to find. If they persist in talking to me after I've said 'No' once means that I can use a staple gun on their forehead to stipple out the message 'No' in braille.

Fart Knocker · 22-09-2011 9:44am

Just smear yourself with dogsh1t and they'll leave you alone.

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 9:44am

I thnk you''ll find turning to them as they're walking backwards by your side and saying "F*ck off" works pretty well!

Temptamperu · 22-09-2011 9:45am

Fart Knocker wrote: »

Just smear yourself with dogsh1t and they'll leave you alone.

Tends to be problematic once you get back to work though

Snakeblood · 22-09-2011 9:46am

MrStuffins wrote: »

I thnk you''ll find turning to them as they're walking backwards by your side and saying "F*ck off" works pretty well!

I'm not a big fan of being thrust into the position where I have to tell someoen to f*ck off. I'd rather it happened organically.

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 9:48am

Snakeblood wrote: »

I'm not a big fan of being thrust into the position where I have to tell someoen to f*ck off. I'd rather it happened organically.

It feels great to tell people to f*ck off though!

22-09-2011 9:50am

How does everyone have so much trouble with them? My friend and I shake our heads, keep walking, end of...

Lollipops23 · 22-09-2011 9:54am

I remember walking towards one in town with the ex about 2 years ago. Yer man copped us from 10 metres away and I started shaking my head at him. He continued to stride towards us and asking us to stop, and ended up getting in my way( my direct line of walking). At this point I loudly went "No, leave us the fúck alone!!"
The ex got all pissy with me "for being so rude". I swear sometimes I wonder if that was a lesbian relationship.

Duggy747 · 22-09-2011 9:56am

I was walking home the day I learned me and others we're being laid off work so I was in a foul, foul mood.

Pissed off all the way home when a hip and happening chugger came up to me, I mumbled no to him, kept walking by him and then next thing he pulled my earphones out and asked "Why not?"

I roared the shìte out of the little prick for touching me, he then said in that stupid sub Irish-American twang hip people seem to have "Like, woah, chill out dude".

I should've been given a medal for restraint and not kicking him up the arse repeatedly until all he could taste was his underwear.

I used to have to dodge shop street in Galway specifically because of these assholes.

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 9:56am

bluewolf wrote: »

How does everyone have so much trouble with them? My friend and I shake our heads, keep walking, end of...

You've been lucky. Some of them are ridiculously aggresive. They'll follow you down the street and get in your way while you're walking so you'll stop.

chin_grin · 22-09-2011 9:57am

OldGoat wrote: »

The line is easy to find. If they persist in talking to me after I've said 'No' once means that I can use a staple gun on their forehead to stipple out the message 'No' in braille.

What are your anger levels like if you carry a staple gun around?! :pac:

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 9:58am

Duggy747 wrote: »

I was walking home the day I learned me and others we're being laid off work so I was in a foul, foul mood.

Pissed off all the way home when a hip and happening chugger came up to me, I mumbled no to him, kept walking by him and then next thing he pulled my earphones out and asked "Why not?"

I roared the shìte out of the little prick for touching me, he then said in that stupid sub Irish-American twang hip people seem to have "Like, woah, chill out dude".

I should've been given a medal for restraint and not kicking him up the arse repeatedly until all he could taste was his underwear.

I used to have to dodge shop street in Galway specifically because of these assholes.

I havent been in a fight since I was in school and I forget what it's like to actually throw a punch in anger, but i'm sorry, if he'd have done that to me i'd have put him down! Prick!

Lollipops23 · 22-09-2011 10:00am

bluewolf wrote: »

How does everyone have so much trouble with them? My friend and I shake our heads, keep walking, end of...

That simply doesn't work with some of them. I've been followed down the street with them.

22-09-2011 10:00am

MrStuffins wrote: »

You've been lucky. Some of them are ridiculously aggresive. They'll follow you down the street and get in your way while you're walking so you'll stop.

i encounter them all the time in town

some put out their hands to catch you in politeness- no
some keep talking at you while you walk past but then give up
never been followed

ye obviously all look like pushovers :pac:

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 10:02am

bluewolf wrote: »

i encounter them all the time in town
some put out their hands to catch you in politeness- no
some keep talking at you while you walk past but then give up
never been followed

ye obviously all look like pushovers :pac:

I'm off to shave my head and have a Swaztika carved into my forehead!

Lollipops23 · 22-09-2011 10:03am

MrStuffins wrote: »

You've been lucky. Some of them are ridiculously aggresive. They'll follow you down the street and get in your way while you're walking so you'll stop.

I complained to Concern in the end, I was walking through Temple Bar on my own one afternoon and three male chuggers converged on me. I advised Concern that making young females feel terrified and in danger was not the way to get donations :rolleyes:

OldGoat · 22-09-2011 10:14am

chin_grin wrote: »

What are your anger levels like if you carry a staple gun around?! :pac:

DID YOU CALL ME ANGRY!?!!?

The staple gun is a useful deterent. It'll suffice till I manage to find a portable Dremmel tool with the various interchangable heads for maximum forehead messaging artistry.

castie · 22-09-2011 10:21am

Never have an issue with them.
They get in my way I walk into them.

Im heavy enough so they usually dont try this twice.

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 10:22am

castie wrote: »

Never have an issue with them.
They get in my way I walk into them.

Im heavy enough so they usually dont try this twice.

Yeah one of them tried it once. I'm over 6ft and around 15st. Pretty silly of him. I'd have been angry if it wasnt so funny to see the shock on his face when I walked straight into him!

Giselle · 22-09-2011 10:28am

bluewolf wrote: »

ye obviously all look like pushovers :pac:

I think there's probably some truth in that.

I never give in to the pressure but I obviously look like I might, because they're pretty persistent with me.:(

biko · 22-09-2011 10:30am

FatherLen wrote: »

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

Let me google that for you http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=chuggers

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 10:39am

bluewolf wrote: »

How does everyone have so much trouble with them? My friend and I shake our heads, keep walking, end of...

Possibly because some people work/study in town and have to navigate a minefield of "hello..Hi ..do you have a moment...can I stop you...hello....hi..do you have a second..." a few times every day.

22-09-2011 10:40am

Giselle wrote: »

bluewolf wrote: »

ye obviously all look like pushovers :pac:

I think there's probably some truth in that.

I never give in to the pressure but I obviously look like I might, because they're pretty persistent with me.:(

I used to and once found myself signing up to something just to get them off my back. Now it's a simple shake of the head and then verbally saying no, in a rather aggressive tone.

Usually works.

chin_grin · 22-09-2011 10:42am

Ok here's the deal people you need to stop wearing earphones they're too small and hidden.

Headphones is where it's at. And a cap. Essentially blocking two of the main "gotcha" senses that chuggers have.

I'd love to do a sketch where it's like Jurassic Park "If I don't move he can't see me" t-rex type thing, but I don't have the balls.

clonadlad · 22-09-2011 10:45am

Chunts.

22-09-2011 10:48am

luas_dublin wrote: »

Possibly because some people work/study in town and have to navigate a minefield of "hello..Hi ..do you have a moment...can I stop you...hello....hi..do you have a second..." a few times every day.

Yes, I already said I work in town; I negotiate a minefield of chuggers and "here have a free paper" people.

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 10:49am

chin_grin wrote: »

Ok here's the deal people you need to stop wearing earphones they're too small and hidden.

I think it's pretty heard to miss when someone is wearing earphones, especially iPod ones.

My earphones are luminous green, no way they can miss them!

chin_grin · 22-09-2011 10:49am

bluewolf wrote: »

Yes, I already said I work in town; I negotiate a minefield of chunts (genius) and "here have a free rag full of useless waffle" people.

FYP. :pac:

MrStuffins · 22-09-2011 10:50am

bluewolf wrote: »

Yes, I already said I work in town; I negotiate a minefield of chuggers and "here have a free paper" people.

Free paper people aren't too bad coz they don't follow you, Normally I take the first paper and hold it in my hand until I get when i'm going. If they see I have one, they dont hold one out for me to take.

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 10:51am

By the way I don't bear most of these guys any ill will personally .
Its a sh!tty job usually aimed at students/young people and I reckon they're forced to be as pushy as possible. I think the whole practice is a horrible idea and I vote with my cash by refusing to donate money to charities that use it.

cruiser178 · 22-09-2011 11:09am

Duggy747 wrote: »

I was walking home the day I learned me and others we're being laid off work so I was in a foul, foul mood.

Pissed off all the way home when a hip and happening chugger came up to me, I mumbled no to him, kept walking by him and then next thing he pulled my earphones out and asked "Why not?"

I roared the shìte out of the little prick for touching me, he then said in that stupid sub Irish-American twang hip people seem to have "Like, woah, chill out dude".

I should've been given a medal for restraint and not kicking him up the arse repeatedly until all he could taste was his underwear.

I used to have to dodge shop street in Galway specifically because of these assholes.

Pretty much the same thing happened to me about 2 years ago as well. Walking up the main street in Limerick, my job had ended 2 weeks before hand, when this jumping fcuking jelly bean of a chugger lept out on front of me asking me for my bank details (the same day I didn't have 2 pennies to rub together and 4 kids to be cloth and fed at home) When I said no this bitch got even more persistent, then I told her to fcuk off, too which she replied, (in a sarcastic voice) "Oh, so you just don't want to help the less fortunate than you".
I had to cross the street in temper in case I got extremely violent with her.

Phenomenally Phrank · 22-09-2011 11:10am

They should make it legal to punch one of them if they get in your face: can't stand the *****.

cruiser178 · 22-09-2011 11:15am

Phenomenally Phrank wrote: »

They should make it legal to punch one of them if they get in your face: can't stand the *****.

Phenomenally Phrank for President!!

Malari · 22-09-2011 11:18am

I've never had an issue with these guys. One "no thanks" is enough. I was approaching a street corner the other day with 3 of them covering all the angles and not one of them even spoke to me, despite the fact that I was slowing to look in a shop window. I must look like I don't suffer fools.

Dr Bob · 22-09-2011 11:19am

cruiser178 wrote: »

...) When I said no this bitch got even more persistent, then I told her to fcuk off, too which she replied, (in a sarcastic voice) "Oh, so you just don't want to help the less fortunate than you".
I had to cross the street in temper in case I got extremely violent with her.

You should have told her " ..ah you're not that badly off , if you quit working as a chugger and get a proper paying job you'll be fine"
...off course usually you only think of saying clever things like this afterwards, usually when the police are restraining you and the chugger's still trying to remove the clipboard from their rectum...

eyescreamcone · 22-09-2011 11:28am

A guy stoped me one day. He was wearing a coat with a panda on it with the WWF logo.

He jumped in front of me and asked "do you like animals?"

I said "I do... but only on my plate"

And walked on

Fremen · 22-09-2011 11:45am

FatherLen wrote: »

excuse my ignorance but chuggers????

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

Charity muggers..

The hippy in town stopping you for 5 quid a month..

Also known as chunts.

..Brian.. · 22-09-2011 11:46am

I'll put my hand up and say, "No, I don't want to help the less fortunate than me." I'd rather worry about my own bills and expenses first please and thank you. And when their out of the way, I'd rather treat myself to some luxury with my hard earned cash than sign it over to some chugger inc.

It's like trying to run the gauntlet getting down some streets some days, they should all be banned!

Saila · 22-09-2011 12:06pm

they should make classifications for different charities

1) serious Irish charities linked to Irish society and problems

2) same but for anywhere/everywhere else in the world

3) for latest natural big news disasters

Chuggers face fines (UK)

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