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So Tori Amos said some stuff about being superior to all heavy metal

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    I haven't a clue what she's waffling on about?!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    In a recent interview with Spinner, alternative rock pianist and singer Tori Amos, who is best known for hits like "1000 Oceans", "Spark", and "A Sorta Fairytale", challenged all metal groups and claimed that she could best any of them by herself.

    Amos suggested that her emotional music could take down any metal band shortly after she was asked if she was surprised that wrestler Mick Foley was a fan of her music.

    "Well, look, sometimes you don't know how music affects people," Amos said. "I don't think that just because I talk about emotional stuff that it's not motherf--ker stuff."

    "I'll stand next to the hardest f--king heavy metal band on any stage in the world and take them down, alone, by myself," Amos continued. "Gauntlet laid down, see who steps up. See who steps up! I'll take them down at 48. And they know I will. Because emotion has power that the metal guys know is just you can't touch it. Insanity can't touch the soul. It's going to win every f--king time.

    Now where's the rolleyes :rolleyes:

    Bit childish for a 48 year old really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    ...........and I haven't heard any of her incoherent warbling on the radio in ages. Well, honestly I don't listen to the radio but that's beside the point!

    So yeah. Even without clicking on the link, she's talking sh!te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭NIBBS


    Elrollo wrote: »
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/tori_amos_challenges_metal_bands.html

    Ladies and Gentlemen, she believes she has the measure of heavy metal, I disagree!

    seriously she must have been drunk.......that's one of the most stupid, and ignorant things I've seen in a long time, from an artist of her quality you'd expect better.......show's a complete lack of knowledge of the genre she's claiming she can best easily......very strange stuff indeed.....
    quite odd that she would think there's no emotion in any form of Metal music.......I've got to say if that's really something she's come out with I'm very disappointed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Stange considering she has covered Raining Blood. (kinda)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WXeHT661xM&feature=related

    sure stick Blind Guardian against her, I'm pretty sure Hansi will show her how to sing :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    I love Tory Amos early work, but she is getting nuttier than squirrel shlt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I've never listened to her music but...

    she was a proto hipster before the hipsters, the kind of musician that music hipster journos fawn over, "oooh her music is so intellectual and emotive, the next kate bush etc."

    I think Thom Yorke said that all metal was sh1t, Yorke, Amos, Lou Reed, they're just a bunch of proto hipsters.

    That said her cover of reigning blood brings out a different side to it On the other Slayer's original is just as emotional, except in a different way, while her version is monotonously mysterious and eerie Slayer's version is more direct, to the point and doesn't lag, its pure aggression mixed in with manic celebratory nihilism over wanton destruction and horror. So its very much just as emotionally intense although this can be lessened if you approach it as a piece of ott comedy metal so I guess that contradicts my point, but her version is also bleh disregarding "emotion", trying to sound intellectual and deep but the pretense and superficiality of the attempt is obvious, whereas Slayer's version kicks ass. hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    metal would need to field a player with as much butthurt as her.


    i vote jonathan davis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    metal would need to fieldy a bass player with as much butthurt as her.


    i vote jonathan davis.

    Fyp


    I'll get my coat...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    Silly bint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    metal would need to field a player with as much butthurt as her.


    i vote jonathan davis.
    if we're fielding players from metal, should we not suggest a heavy metal supergroup to facemelt the heathen Tori Amos? Good people of the forums, I pledge thee, field thine most mighty of metal players and drive the scarlet haired demon back from whence she came!

    Mine champion shall be Sah Gene Hoglan of Hogskovia! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    I meant, sending a singer who got touched in their no no place against their will to fight a singer who got touched in their no no place against their will.


    fight fire with fire and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Tori Amos says a lot of things......SHOVE HER!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    Tori Amos says a lot of things......SHOVE HER!
    with what damn you? Shove her with what?!:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Jaysus I just listened to Tori Amos' version of Raining Blood, I think metal's safe for the next while!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Elrollo wrote: »
    with what damn you? Shove her with what?!:pac:

    How about some Cornflakes;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭GrizzlyMan


    what an idiot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    How about some Cornflakes;)
    hah, give her some Lidl brand 'flakes of corn like substance', Kelloggs is just a touch too good for her!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Jemmaa


    I don't know Tori Amos I don't even have TV.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Jaysus I just listened to Tori Amos' version of Raining Blood, I think metal's safe for the next while!

    yeah. So I take it that was a parody?! didn't sound like it.. or was she just in the horrors and related to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    yeah. So I take it that was a parody?! didn't sound like it.. or was she just in the horrors and related to it.
    I'd be interested in seeing her cover something like Gojira or Behemoth, that'd be the type of thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Yeah but in the sense a lady with tummy cramps might feel trapped in purgatory, a lifeless object, alive.. and death will be their acquisition see she's gettin all vengeful now, spiteful.. Cranky.. bleeding in horror, from a lacerated uh.. Womb wall or something, bleeding it's horror, creating her structure, or maybe regenerating It.. now she shall reign in blood!

    my two cents anyhow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Well somebody is clearly looking for attention


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭iangobl


    Who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Precocious piano tutored chick claims she is better than heavy metal virtuosos shocker.

    Think she resides over here too. It's not the headbangers she need be concerned with, but the bangers through her letterbox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Metal virtuosos would pwn her in a battle of musicianship, there are very few genres of modern music left which encourage musical skill and complexity, metal is one of them however.

    Edit: for the sake of argument though, she is semi correct, although her reasoning could apply to music produced within any genre, but I sometimes get the feeling that metal can be too macho, aggressive or conservative for its own good. For example I was listening to Forgiveness Denied by Aeon and it just sounds like a few minutes of one dimensional anger. I guess Amos' first mistake is in equating the quality of a piece of music with emotion. A piece of music can conceivably be awesome without being imbued with emotional content, the conceptual aspects might well compensate for a lack of emotive display. On the other hand in my own experience, music which calls up an emotional response in the listener is often more effective, for example it seems that a lot of people pick up on the end part of Straws Pulled at Random by Meshuggah as opposed to the first part which is standard Meshuggah fare, the end part is quite emotionally charged in a kind of transcendent way. Nonetheless an emotional piece of music which is average won't sound as powerful as a piece of music which is well written, its the intangibility of quality musical composition which is ultimately completely intrinsic imo, I find that the best pieces of music successfully combine conceptual rigour with emotion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


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    I would.












    Might as well drag the tone to the gutter :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    only if she was mute kess.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭aperture_nuig


    saw this on UG and had to laugh. superior to an entire genre of music? sure you are dear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    only if she was mute kess.....



    Ahh sure I could have Sound Of White Noise or Mob Rules blasting away on the stereo as I did the deed.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    I meant, sending a singer who got touched in their no no place against their will to fight a singer who got touched in their no no place against their will.


    fight fire with fire and all that.

    Disgusting post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    buck65 wrote: »
    Disgusting post.
    Comment on the topic, not on an individuals post you silly :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭oneillMan999


    Who gives a fcuk what she thinks!! what DOES she think anyway?, I dont give a fcuk!! Whats the point of this thread? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Elrollo


    Who gives a fcuk what she thinks!! what DOES she think anyway?, I dont give a fcuk!! Whats the point of this thread? :confused:
    To comment on that scarlet haired hoor's various blasphemies in the article I posted there :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭LaBaguette


    Wow, that's some serious trolling. Is she in need of publicity or something ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    I am utterly offended and appalled that she could have the CHEEK to say that about metal!:rolleyes:

    What's new about this?

    There's always going to be pretentious musicians who will sneer at genres they have nothing to do with nor know anything about.

    Metal's an easy target because 90% of it is either over the top or ****e or both.

    The 10% that's worth listening to is on another plane of existence that someone like Tori Amos could not even hope to understand. Let her say what she wants, it only makes her look foolish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 No 1 Metal Fan


    oh no no I was getting sick there listening to that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭oneillMan999


    LaBaguette wrote: »
    Wow, that's some serious trolling. Is she in need of publicity or something ?

    Are you accusing me of trolling a Tori fcukin Amos thread ?? catch a grip dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭LaBaguette


    No, I'm saying that Tori Amos is trolling the entire metal community by spouting bull**** in order to angry people.

    I didnt even quote you, and used "she" - how's the egotrip goin' ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    So what are her criteria exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭JBnaglfar


    So what are her criteria exactly?

    Probably her only criteria is 'does this get me publicity?' First time I've heard about her in quite a few years anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    I would have done her, but now I don't know....

    She hasn't written anything decent. Had a quick listen to some stuff on youtube, not my thing. I'd nearly rather listen to Lou Reed waffling over Slayer instead.


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