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In car monitoring - an alternative to speed cameras?

  • 21-09-2011 6:20pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭


    Many motorists resent the way speed cameras operate in Ireland and claim they don't detect bad driving.

    According to this article in The Register, GM fits monitoring as standard in the US and the EU is set to mandate it for all cars, is this the way forward? Will we be able to fairly exclude dangerous drives and make risky drivers pay more insurance thand safe ones?
    In the notice being sent out to subscribers, and picked up by Wired, OnStar explains that from December this year it will start collecting information about everything from oil levels to mileage, and details of any accident in which the vehicle is involved – including direction of impact, seatbelt use and the location/speed of the vehicle at the time of the accident.

    That is the critical part, to the insurance companies at least. Several US insurance claims have already been invalidated by cars which grassed on their owners, who proved to be travelling faster than they had admitted, and OnStar will hand over the data to the police when required to, and anyone else they deem necessary for "the safety of you or others".

    ...

    Earlier this month the European Commission formally adopted eCall, which requires all new cars sold within the EU to be fitted with automatic tracking, and an embedded cellular phone, by 2015. eCall will call up the emergency services in the event of a crash, but it will also put a mobile phone into every car in Europe, which opens up a host of options.

    ...

    In its statement (PDF, 10 pages but quite readable), OnStar explains it will also be collecting anonymous data for traffic and usage analysis, which is probably more valuable to General Motors than details about individuals. The same thing will no doubt apply to eCall-equipped cars when they come on sale.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I can see RTDH loving this.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I don't think direction of impact, seatbelt use and the location/speed of the vehicle at the time of the accident will be enough to make a call on bad/dangerous driving in many cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Big brother is watching. what a pile of crud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭mondeo


    The Fu€k I would allow somthing like that in my car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    mondeo wrote: »
    The Fu€k I would allow somthing like that in my car.

    That's what I was thinking too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    mondeo wrote: »
    The Fu€k I would allow somthing like that in my car.
    Point is, we wouldn't have a choice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 121 ✭✭Bababa


    Cameras in the car could make the odd shag in the back a thing of the past. Although could be money in it if the action is good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    As long as you can completely disable it then go right ahead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I think it's a great idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    SSorry but you spend 20k on a bit of property and the man tags it so he knows what you're up too. Next stop cameras in your house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭mondeo


    This reminds me of the AXA gps tracking system for young drivers which they had 10 or 11 years ago. I'm sure some remember it where they monitored your speed and sent you out letters treatening to cancel your policy if you went over the limit. You also had to agree not to drive on the motorway or after 11pm at night which they would know about aswell. Gives me the creeps these type of monitoring systems.

    Also everyone who does not buy a new car will have to pay big bucks to have one of these monitoring systems installed in their bangers? They could generate lots of revenue with a lovely big charge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    mondeo wrote: »
    Also everyone who does not buy a new car will have to pay big bucks to have one of these monitoring systems installed in their bangers? They could generate lots of revenue with a lovely big charge!
    Where did you get that idea? In fact, when has our government ever forced us to retrofit anything to our cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭mondeo


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Where did you get that idea? In fact, when has our government ever forced us to retrofit anything to our cars?

    Who knows what may happen in the future with motoring and safety. It's one of those ' they could do it if they wanted to' things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    mondeo wrote: »
    Who knows what may happen in the future with motoring and safety. It's one of those ' they could do it if they wanted to' things.
    They could have forced us to retrofit catalysts, or airbags, or seatbelts, but they didn't. I'm not happy about the idea of in-car monitoring myself, but the fear of compulsory retrofitting is a straw man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    mondeo wrote: »
    Who knows what may happen in the future with motoring and safety. It's one of those ' they could do it if they wanted to' things.

    Not a hope, it'd make thousands of cars uneconomical write-offs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    A lot of the yanks have it in cars but afaik buses etc must have them. No more fap fap when your driving now...:pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭cyclopath2001


    Anan1 wrote: »
    I'm not happy about the idea of in-car monitoring myself, but the fear of compulsory retrofitting is a straw man.
    It will be introduced initially as a safety device which automatically sends an emergency call and coordinates if the airbags deploy.

    Just the thing for all those single car accidents.


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