German Rail (DB) on-time performance

lil5

On-time performance - Deutsche Bahn (German Rail) -
http://www.deutschebahn.com/site/bahn/de/konzern/konzernprofil/zahlen__fakten/puenklichkeit/puenktlichkeitswerte.html
[see website for detailed figures and chart]


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In August, the punctuality levels dropped slightly from the previous month. The main reason was from 24.8. severe storms in the west and in the middle of Germany with many uprooted trees that partially damaged overhead wires and road closures made it necessary. The diversion of many trains in the following days led to a significant increase in delays in the 34th Calendar week.

Cost-base for the development of punctuality:
The presented values indicate the percentage share of punctual in terms of holding back all the way and end support. A stop is considered a time when the scheduled arrival time was exceeded by less than 6 or 16 minutes. Punctuality Statistics tracks the more than 800,000 trips of DB passenger trains a month. For the more than 20,000 monthly long-distance trips in all traffic stops flowing into the punctuality survey. Among the approximately 780,000 monthly trips in public transport - including all S-Bahn - the punctuality figures refer to the evaluation of a representative sample of several hundred monitoring stations at key intersections. These were largely agreed with the customer organizations of states for the service contract. From January 2012, the DB will also cover all transport stops completely.


August figures for overall traffic

5 min Pü (up to 5:59 min) - 93.2%
15 min Pü (up to 15:59 min) - 98.6 %

coylemj

And your point is?

Victor

coylemj wrote: »

And your point is?

mickydoomsux

Victor wrote: »

Two words:

Suspicious package.

parsi

Interesting the Stiftung Warentest (the supercharged German equivalent of Which) would beg to differ.

http://www.test.de/filestore/4271931_t201109078.pdf?path=/protected/d4/41/df833797-79a8-441e-949a-e8a0043b8a3d-protectedfile.pdf&key=388929242D03A41F55B63D352E507706C66B3147

This shows that in the year surveyed 42% of night trains were over 6 minutes late and a shocking 30% of ICE were over 6 mins late.

Fairly poor results but not surprising to those who read the European railway mags.

SeanW

parsi wrote: »

Interesting the Stiftung Warentest (the supercharged German equivalent of Which) would beg to differ.

http://www.test.de/filestore/4271931_t201109078.pdf?path=/protected/d4/41/df833797-79a8-441e-949a-e8a0043b8a3d-protectedfile.pdf&key=388929242D03A41F55B63D352E507706C66B3147

This shows that in the year surveyed 42% of night trains were over 6 minutes late and a shocking 30% of ICE were over 6 mins late.

Fairly poor results but not surprising to those who read the European railway mags.

Oh dear - 6 minutes late for a train that travels up to 1000 miles over up to 8 hours ... shock horror :eek: oh the humanity ...
lol

parsi

SeanW wrote: »

parsi wrote: »

Interesting the Stiftung Warentest (the supercharged German equivalent of Which) would beg to differ.

http://www.test.de/filestore/4271931_t201109078.pdf?path=/protected/d4/41/df833797-79a8-441e-949a-e8a0043b8a3d-protectedfile.pdf&key=388929242D03A41F55B63D352E507706C66B3147

This shows that in the year surveyed 42% of night trains were over 6 minutes late and a shocking 30% of ICE were over 6 mins late.

Fairly poor results but not surprising to those who read the European railway mags.

Oh dear - 6 minutes late for a train that travels up to 1000 miles over up to 8 hours ... shock horror :eek: oh the humanity ...
lol

Well it's late by the agreed standards. Have a look at the link and see the massive percentages of local trains which were late - and didn't have the excuse of travelling long distances on dedicated passenger only lines.

Victor

SeanW wrote: »

Oh dear - 6 minutes late for a train that travels up to 1000 miles over up to 8 hours ... shock horror :eek: oh the humanity ...

An 8 hour scheduled travel time (what route?) means it has 34 minutes built into the timetable to allow for problems, on top of any time allowed for making connections or other matters.

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Two words:

Suspicious package.

Actually no, security incidents and exception circumstances are on top of those delays. A lot of it is down to dodgy track and bridges, in particular Laytown.

munchkin_utd

Victor wrote: »

An 8 hour scheduled travel time (what route?) .......

Munich to Warnemunde in Northern East Germany on the Baltic coast direct by ICE is a whopping 9:37 long.
You'd be in Budapest or Paris quicker!
Actually, even Rome is only 9h 19min away!

Or Innsbruck to Berlin direct without changing in 10:06 !
(although theres one train thats "only" 8 hours leaving shortly before and taking a quicker route)

To be fair, the majority of ICE routes and all the frequent corridors are done in 4 to 6 hours and 8hours+ is a bit of an exception.

coylemj

Mein Got in Himmel! The Germans are more efficient than the Irish :eek:

I suppose next you'll be telling us that their roads are better than ours!

murphaph

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Munich to Warnemunde in Northern East Germany on the Baltic coast direct by ICE is a whopping 9:37 long.
You'd be in Budapest or Paris quicker!
Actually, even Rome is only 9h 19min away!

Or Innsbruck to Berlin direct without changing in 10:06 !
(although theres one train thats "only" 8 hours leaving shortly before and taking a quicker route)

To be fair, the majority of ICE routes and all the frequent corridors are done in 4 to 6 hours and 8hours+ is a bit of an exception.

...and they are working on the exceptions. Germany is still recovering from division. The ICE stretch from Munich to Berlin runs through lots of former GDR territory.

They are currently massively upgrading (offline 300km/h stretches, new build, much of it requiring major structures to keep the line as straight as possible) the line and journey times between Berlin and Munich will be reduced to 4.5 hours (by 2016 we are told). This then really competes with flying city centre to city centre, especially as Munich Airport is a good 45mins from Hauptbahnhof and BBI will be 30 mins from Berlin Hbf. If your journey is a centre to centre (or beyond) trip then the train will likely beat flying and you can get some solid work done during the 4.5 hours.

Hilly Bill

I know this is the commuting and transport board but didnt know it was an international one. How is the performance of german trains got anything to do with commuting in Ireland.?

Victor

Hilly Bill wrote: »

I know this is the commuting and transport board but didnt know it was an international one. How is the performance of german trains got anything to do with commuting in Ireland.?

While it primarily deals with Ireland, it is by no means exclusively Ireland, much like 99% of boards.ie.

Learning from other people is important. Note that DB is considered to be in crisis, but yet delivers 93% punctuality (within 5 minutes).

John C

http://www.bahn.de/p/view/buchung/auskunft/puenktlichkeit_personenverkehr.shtml?dbkanal_007=S01_D001_KIN0023_puenktlichkeitswerte-de_LZ01

Punctuality levels for August dipped slightly compared with the previous month. The main reason was the stormy weather from the 24th August in the west and middle of Germany with several uprooted trees, which to some extent damaged the overhead lines and made the closing of routes necessary.
The diversion of many trains in the following days lead to a substantial increase in delays in calendar week 34.

How the punctuality survey is compiled
The displayed percentages reflect the percentage of punctual stops at all intermediate stations and end stations. A train stop is assessed to be punctual when the actual arrival time is less than 6 to 16 minutes later than its scheduled arrival time.
The statistics are compiled from 800.000 journeys of German Rail passenger trains in a month. All stops of the more than 20.000 monthly long distance journeys are included in the punctuality survey.
The punctuality data of 780.000 local trains movements in a month are derived from a representative sample of hundreds of measuring points at important junctions. These local trains include S-Bahn [Rapid suburban train service]. This is agreed with the transport agencies of the federal states in its transport contract. From January 2012 the DB will fully record all the stops.

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S-Bahn , Schnellbahn = rapid rail in large cities, among them Munich, Nuremberg, Hamburg and Berlin. The S-Bahns are run by Deutsche Bahn.
The U-Bahn is a metro and is run by the respective City council.

In the German forums about Deutsche Bahn there are many critical comments. Some commentators suggest that the Deutsche Bahn learn fom the Swiss National Railway.

parsi

Not strictly relevant but I think this might interest folks... a German level crossing that includes a roundabout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aPjY0klSko&feature=youtube_gdata_player

foggy_lad

John C wrote: »

http://www.bahn.de/p/view/buchung/auskunft/puenktlichkeit_personenverkehr.shtml?dbkanal_007=S01_D001_KIN0023_puenktlichkeitswerte-de_LZ01

Punctuality levels for August dipped slightly compared with the previous month. The main reason was the stormy weather from the 24th August in the west and middle of Germany with several uprooted trees, which to some extent damaged the overhead lines and made the closing of routes necessary.
The diversion of many trains in the following days lead to a substantial increase in delays in calendar week 34.

How the punctuality survey is compiled
The displayed percentages reflect the percentage of punctual stops at all intermediate stations and end stations. A train stop is assessed to be punctual when the actual arrival time is less than 6 to 16 minutes later than its scheduled arrival time.
The statistics are compiled from 800.000 journeys of German Rail passenger trains in a month. All stops of the more than 20.000 monthly long distance journeys are included in the punctuality survey.
The punctuality data of 780.000 local trains movements in a month are derived from a representative sample of hundreds of measuring points at important junctions. These local trains include S-Bahn [Rapid suburban train service]. This is agreed with the transport agencies of the federal states in its transport contract. From January 2012 the DB will fully record all the stops.

---

S-Bahn , Schnellbahn = rapid rail in large cities, among them Munich, Nuremberg, Hamburg and Berlin. The S-Bahns are run by Deutsche Bahn.
The U-Bahn is a metro and is run by the respective City council.

In the German forums about Deutsche Bahn there are many critical comments. Some commentators suggest that the Deutsche Bahn learn fom the Swiss National Railway.

Compared with how Irish Rail record their statistics the Germans are not just more efficient but a lot more honest. Irish Rail does not record times at any intermediate stations and only records times at terminus stations as late or delayed ten munites after the well padded arrival time. Also worth noting that DB include delays due to stormy weather etc while Irish Rail does not!

http://www.irishrail.ie/home/passenger_charter.asp#2

Performance standards
We know how important reliability and timekeeping are to you and we want all trains to run as scheduled. At the minimum we are committed to reaching the following targets.

Reliability - as measured over a particular four week period

We will ensure that 98% of all timetabled Intercity, DART and Commuter rail services run as planned.

Punctuality - as measured over a particular four week period

No train will leave a station earlier than advertised in the timetable.

We will measure performance on timetabled services at the end of each line.

However, we will exclude instances of delays or disruptions outside our control, for example due to extreme weather conditions.
Intercity trains

We are committed to 90% of all our Intercity trains arriving at their final destination within 10 minutes of the published time.

The Enterprise Passenger’s Charter for the Dublin to Belfast cross-border service sets out our standards for this line in more detail. You can get a copy of this charter (in English or Irish) at stations on the route or from the Commercial Department at +353 (0)1 703 2350.

Additional rights for for Cross Border customers are contained in Regulation (EC) 1371-2007 of the European Parliament. Click here to read more.
DART trains

Morning: targets for peak hours

Between 07.00 and 10.00 hours (7.00am and 10.00am), 90% of all DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transport) trains arriving in Dublin city centre will arrive within 10 minutes of the published time.

Evening: targets for peak hours

Between 16.00 and 19.00 hours (4.00pm and 7.00pm), 90% of all DART trains leaving Dublin city centre will arrive at their final destination within 10 minutes of the published time.
Dublin Commuter services

Maynooth and Drogheda Lines

Morning: targets for peak hours

Between 07.00am and 09.00 hours (7.00am and 9.00am), 90% of all Maynooth and Drogheda line Commuter trains arriving in Dublin city centre will arrive within 10 minutes of the published time.

Evening: targets for peak hours

Between 16.00 and 19.00 hours (4.00pm and 7.00pm), 90% of all Maynooth and Drogheda line Commuter trains leaving Dublin city centre will arrive at their final destination within 10 minutes of the published time.
Heuston/Kildare Line

Morning: targets for peak hours

Between 07.00 and 10.00 hours (7.00am and 10.00am), 90% of all Kildare line Commuter trains arriving in Heuston Station, Dublin, will arrive within 10 minutes of the published time.

Evening: targets for peak hours

Between 16.00 and 19.00 hours (4.00pm and 7.00pm), 90% of all Kildare line Commuter trains leaving Heuston Station, Dublin, will arrive at their final destination within 10 minutes of the published time.
Improvements to track, stations and signalling

At the time of re-issuing this charter, our extensive investment programme continues.

This programme is designed to improve the quality of track, signalling and station facilities, which inevitably will result in some temporary disruptions to services.

Whenever we can foresee them, we will tell you about these disruptions in advance.

If there is a delay or we have cancelled a service, we will tell you why.

When we advertise a change to the timetable, we will measure our performance against the new service times.

murphaph

parsi wrote: »

Not strictly relevant but I think this might interest folks... a German level crossing that includes a roundabout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aPjY0klSko&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Wow...the largest level crossing in Germany according to the title, the description says 23 red lights and 12 barriers!

AlekSmart

parsi wrote: »

Not strictly relevant but I think this might interest folks... a German level crossing that includes a roundabout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aPjY0klSko&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Absolutely outrageous carry-on.....The Danger of it all....:p

I originally suspected the clip was a fake,shot in Ardmore Studios,until I noticed that none,not a single one,of the pedestrians/cyclists or drivers even made a move to jump the lights or hop over the barriers...even after the Train had passed.....I need a drink now !!!

dowlingm

the car at the start did inch closer to the barrier which seemed un-German

What chance of the fun police letting a junction anywhere near as complex in Ireland - on the heavy rail network? Wexford Quay is as exciting as it gets and I'd say it features heavily on the RSC's "things that if they were lifted would make our paycheque even easier to earn" list.