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Should colleges like TCD,UCD,NUIG,etc..offer beautician courses to study?

  • 20-09-2011 8:50pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭


    Like the way they do with acting and music?

    This would be aimed at anyone who would like to become a beautican but still go to a normal college.

    Anyone else think this should be intoduced? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    No.

    Universities offer courses from Level 7 up. Sure, why not do a PhD in philosophy in your local secondary school?:rolleyes:

    The institutions you refer to are universities - is that what you mean by 'normal' college? I feel sorry for the poor creaturs slaving away in abnormal ITs and Further Ed colleges.....


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    lol no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭aramush


    Sweet lord no. We want to keep the standard fairly high at our universities and not of the inch thick makeup variety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    At first I was worried I was going to sound like a snob, I'm glad everyone else thinks university should be a haven from the eejits that make up most of my year going on to do courses like beauty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    It's not about snobbery or segregating people, it's about efficient use of resources.

    You couldn't offer Leaving Cert in a primary school or expect 5 year olds to be educated in an IT. Universities do not have the expertise or resources to offer carpenter apprenticeships.

    The main snobbery I've seen on this thread is from the OP, who only considers universities to be 'normal colleges'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    I didn't mean to sound snobby. I meant normal colleges as in colleges that offer loads of subjects? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Short answer is no, just no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭._.


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    I didn't mean to sound snobby.

    You didn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    I didn't mean to sound snobby. I meant normal colleges as in colleges that offer loads of subjects? :confused:

    They're "colleges", the places you're talking about are Universities offering 3/4 year courses. Not a 1/2 year level 6 course or something similar.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    Jesus no, can you imagine how some people would go on then ? Having a degree in beauty from TCD is just so unimaginable !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Jesus no, can you imagine how some people would go on then ? Having a degree in beauty from TCD is just so unimaginable !

    Its funny because you're not being serious..right?

    IT's also offer "loads of courses", Beauty is a very practical course
    What is the problem with the current courses in beauty being offered,
    Do you want the prestige of going to a college with a reputation?

    These large academic not practical (practical with a heavy focus on theory like science would be a different thing) or specialised college's have limited resources and huge demand, maybe that's a clue as to why they cannot accommodate a beauty course, what would they get out of it?


    With Art, design or music there the courses consist of a huge amount of philosophy and theory beauty does not as far as how the course operates.

    To my knowledge these colleges I presume you're referring to generally don't offer art or music BA's as these are more practical but Trinity and UCD offer MA's within those fields.

    That's just the link I see between the academic and practical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    I apologise in advance for being frivolous, but I can't help imagining Ross O'Carroll-Kelly's mother's voice in my head:

    "Yes, dear, my beautician is calling round just to, you know, touch me up before the party. Lovely girl, one of the O'Ferral-McKeevers from down the road. Did her degree in Trinity, you know, and an internship in Le Slap Pour Vous in Paris!! Such a delicate touch with the tweezers! Of course, she really doesn't need to work, but one must contribute something to society, don't you agree?!"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 248 ✭✭I love Joan Burton


    Hmm interesting, perhaps they should, i mean a lot of us had training in facials at university


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Like the way they do with acting and music?

    This would be aimed at anyone who would like to become a beautican but still go to a normal college.

    Anyone else think this should be intoduced? :)

    Don't try to compare music to beautician courses.

    As a BMus student in Maynooth, I've auditioned for a few compulsory ensembles (choral, trad etc), I've gone through an entrance exam, audition and interview to get here.

    I'm planning on staying in college for at least seven years, so I can become a doctor of musicology, and get a job as a radio dj or a music therapist.

    Roughly 7.5% of applicants get onto the course every year, and you can be damn well sure we'll be learning more than how to apply make-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    saa wrote: »
    Its funny because you're not being serious..right?

    IT's also offer "loads of courses", Beauty is a very practical course
    What is the problem with the current courses in beauty being offered,
    Do you want the prestige of going to a college with a reputation?

    These large academic not practical (practical with a heavy focus on theory like science would be a different thing) or specialised college's have limited resources and huge demand, maybe that's a clue as to why they cannot accommodate a beauty course, what would they get out of it?


    With Art, design or music there the courses consist of a huge amount of philosophy and theory beauty does not as far as how the course operates.

    To my knowledge these colleges I presume you're referring to generally don't offer art or music BA's as these are more practical but Trinity and UCD offer MA's within those fields.

    That's just the link I see between the academic and practical.

    I'm doing a BA in music in one of "these colleges". It's called a BMus (Bachelor of MUSic degree).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    What kind of major university that wants itself to be taken seriously offers "Beauty" courses?

    If it was a film production course that incorporated make up and set design in to a larger curriculum then that would make sense.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would be a stretch for a university to even offer it as a module


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    Can anyone tell me what a "beauty" course is? Is it putting on make-up? Is there much focus on the chemical composition/biological action of skin cosmetics? Cause I can't imagine why a university would assign the same amount of time to teach someone the techniques of nail polishing as to those studying quantum mechanics or criminal law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    I've got a PhD in vajazzling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭bscm


    I honestly think TCD should be removed from the title, comparing Beauty Therapy to courses with an average of 480-500 points is unthinkable

    Also they clearly wouldn't get a tanning bed across the cobblestones, even with the new wheelchair accessible walkways


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    I think we're done here.

    Several posts which would have been better suited in another forum deleted.


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