Comptroller and Auditor Annual Report 2010

mike65

http://www.audgen.gov.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=1327

Public procurements section is the bit I went straight for, even the National Library of Ireland managed to rack up nearly 3 million in service contracts to support its activities. Lack of oversight in such big spending departments as the Health and Agriculture/Fisheries/Food resources is notable, ditto the number of non competitive contracts awarded.

Mr.Micro

mike65 wrote: »

http://www.audgen.gov.ie/viewdoc.asp?DocID=1327

Public procurements section is the bit I went straight for, even the National Library of Ireland managed to rack up nearly 3 million in service contracts to support its activities. Lack of oversight in such big spending departments as the Health and Agriculture/Fisheries/Food resources is notable, ditto the number of non competitive contracts awarded.

Looks like the public have to take cuts but the same austerity has not hit the civil servants or their departments.....the hypocrisy.

Godge

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Looks like the public have to take cuts but the same austerity has not hit the civil servants or their departments.....the hypocrisy.

Can you point me to the specific issues that you are referring to? The Report is very long and only just out but you must have had the opportunity to go through it in enough detail to be able to make such specific comments:rolleyes:.

Mr.Micro

Godge wrote: »

Can you point me to the specific issues that you are referring to? The Report is very long and only just out but you must have had the opportunity to go through it in enough detail to be able to make such specific comments:rolleyes:.

Well actually there was a bit on Vinny's show last night for starters and the wastage right across the board in many Government departments. Anyway no surprises as its the 2010 accounts an FF were still in office. You can come back and tell me at your convenience that my summations were wrong, when you have read the report.

Godge

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Well actually there was a bit on Vinny's show last night for starters and the wastage right across the board in many Government departments. Anyway no surprises as its the 2010 accounts an FF were still in office. You can come back and tell me at your convenience that my summations were wrong, when you have read the report.

Never said you were wrong, never said you were right:). You made an across-the-board comment that appeared to be based on detailed reading of the report and I just asked you to point me to the bits that you based your comment on.

Maybe you were just trying to provoke another ps-bashing thread based on what you saw on some TV programme but I thought you had actually done some detailed analysis before making such a generalisation.

So I would like to ask you to withdraw your statement or back it up.

Head The Wall

It doesn't need detailed analysis, it looks like you are you getting picky and implying that Mr Micro is lying. Are you trying to deny that the report found wastage?

Paying increments when PMDS reviews were not being carried out is one example of the wastage. There's plenty more all over the media, I doubt they're printing lies etc

Mr.Micro

Godge wrote: »

Never said you were wrong, never said you were right:). You made an across-the-board comment that appeared to be based on detailed reading of the report and I just asked you to point me to the bits that you based your comment on.

Maybe you were just trying to provoke another ps-bashing thread based on what you saw on some TV programme but I thought you had actually done some detailed analysis before making such a generalisation.

So I would like to ask you to withdraw your statement or back it up.

Actually no, I stand by it and unless Vincent Browne and his researchers tell lies then the facts are that wastage was across the board. You just assumed I was posting without any knowledge at all, wrong that. You were defending something that you had clearly no knowledge about , at least less than me, and you accuse me of being across the board.:rolleyes:

Not sure what you mean about "trying to provoke another ps-bashing thread ", lost me there I am afraid.

A bit of reading for you to fill in the background, it starts like this


The annual report of the public finances watchdog, the Comptroller and Auditor General (C&AG), shows that almost every department and office made savings in administration costs compared with previous years, but continued to squander money on ill-conceived projects and sloppy practices.




http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/wastage-costing-taxpayers-tens-of-millions-168153.html

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/state-overpaid-more-than-euro83m-in-welfare-payments-last-year-euro30m-fraudulent-2880914.html

Head The Wall

Garda Fingerprint System, yes the ones that still have an ongoing industrial action was supposed to cost 18m and ended up at 23m - 27% overbudget and 18 months late

Sleepy

We have 29 County Councils, 5 city councils, 5 Borough Councils and 75 Town Councils serving a population of 4,581,269.

Do I need to say anything else to prove that waste is still endemic in government spending?

MadsL

This is alarming; HSE of course...

During 2010 internal audits of a number of consultancies were undertaken. These audits revealed that vendors were paid €3.2m (over a number of years) in respect of services for which no competitive procurement processes were conducted.

More than €75m in substantial state contracts awarded last year were never put out to tender, with the reasons why they received exemption from the normal competition rules not clear in many cases. :eek:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/wastage-costing-taxpayers-tens-of-millions-168153.html#ixzz1YXsppU3j

AlekSmart

Sleepy wrote: »

We have 29 County Councils, 5 city councils, 5 Borough Councils and 75 Town Councils serving a population of 4,581,269.

Do I need to say anything else to prove that waste is still endemic in government spending?

And,dont forget...The Council of State !