Dana in the running

RandomName2

Surprised there isn't a thread on this yet.

Dana has declared her intention to run for the Arras
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0919/president.html

I know lots of people here will be 'oh no, not her again' and 'I feel it in my you-know-what' but in reality I think she suits the position of quietly glad handing foreign dignitaries, not attempting to be be political, and not being an embarrassment to the country.

As long as she doesn't make any gaffs.:p

Kristopherus

Dear Gawd No:eek:Although she would be well suited to FF. Toothless and useless:D

Nodin

RandomName2 wrote: »

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I know lots of people here will be 'oh no, not her again' and 'I feel it in my you-know-what' but in reality I think she suits the position of quietly glad handing foreign dignitaries, not attempting to be be political, and not being an embarrassment to the country.

As long as she doesn't make any gaffs.:p

....you won't suck me in. Nope.

niallers1

Is she the one that won the Rose of Tralee back in the 60's?:rolleyes:

HellsAngel

Oh Gawd, what next, Ahern is running..........

thebman

I think there was reason no thread existed for the person who is most likely to win a vote for least likely person to win the election :P

On the news she was going on about how she needs support of all quarters which is funny because her opinions rule out most quarters from supporting her...

hotmail.com

This seems like another distraction. It looks unlikely that she will get the 20 backers, so this seems more like an attention seeking exercise.

anymore

thebman wrote: »

I think there was reason no thread existed for the person who is most likely to win a vote for least likely person to win the election :P

On the news she was going on about how she needs support of all quarters which is funny because her opinions rule out most quarters from supporting her...

The reality is that many of the old grannies who are taken in by Norris may now actaully vote for Dana !
That would be wonderfully ironic !
I dodnt vote for her the last but might this tmi,e to get up the noses of the all the myopic politically correct ! :D:D

Liam Byrne

thebman wrote: »

On the news she was going on about how she needs support of all quarters which is funny because her opinions rule out most quarters from supporting her...

Well considering we already have one definite candidate and one possible candidate whose opinions should do just that and yet they are inexplicably two of the three front-runners (and the two with the most vocal support on here) anything's possible.

I'd choose Dana over those two any day - at least she hasn't ever done anything despicable.....which ironically means that she's the one who gets ridiculed in this backward country.

View

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I'd choose Dana over those two any day - at least she hasn't ever done anything despicable.....which ironically means that she's the one who gets ridiculed in this backward country.

That might be part of her electoral problem - were she caught out in, let's say, a major planning and associated corruption scandal, she'd probably be much more electable here.

greendom

The more the merrier

Liam Byrne

View wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I'd choose Dana over those two any day - at least she hasn't ever done anything despicable.....which ironically means that she's the one who gets ridiculed in this backward country.

That might be part of her electoral problem - were she caught out in, let's say, a major planning and associated corruption scandal, she'd probably be much more electable here.

My point exactly! We claim that we're disgusted by corrupt and objectionable politicians, and yet when offered one that's neither, we rip her to shreds!

Why?

OK, so she's a bit of a religion-head, but I'd rather that to a former terrorist or some who gives character references to child rapists - statutory or otherwise.

View

Liam Byrne wrote: »

My point exactly! We claim that we're disgusted by corrupt and objectionable politicians, and yet when offered one that's neither, we rip her to shreds!

Why?

It might all boil down to a point raised in the US Presidential election in 2004. Kerry was on paper a way better candidate than Bush but for the ordinary "Joe Soap" they could imagine having a beer with Bush but not with Kerry hence they opted for "likeable" Bush rather than Kerry.

"Likeable" in an Irish context though has less to do with beer drinking and more a willingness to "get the pothole fixed by fair means or foul".

Liam Byrne

View wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

My point exactly! We claim that we're disgusted by corrupt and objectionable politicians, and yet when offered one that's neither, we rip her to shreds!

Why?

It might all boil down to a point raised in the US Presidential election in 2004. Kerry was on paper a way better candidate than Bush but for the ordinary "Joe Soap" they could imagine having a beer with Bush but not with Kerry hence they opted for "likeable" Bush rather than Kerry.

"Likeable" in an Irish context though has less to do with beer drinking and more a willingness to "get the pothole fixed by fair means or foul".

People are odd.

I've a few good drinking buddies but I wouldn't trust them to run a country....that said, I don't drink as much as most saddos do every weekend.

Guess I've been right all along - I'm simply not Irish (at least in mindset).

View

Liam Byrne wrote: »

People are odd.

I've a few good drinking buddies but I wouldn't trust them to run a country....that said, I don't drink as much as most saddos do every weekend.

Guess I've been right all along - I'm simply not Irish (at least in mindset).

Based on your posts, you are, so don't worry too much.

There is a practicality to the mentality which should be dismissed out of hand. It just needs to be changed slightly so it doesn't - on principle - actively try to break rules just because it can. Change though doesn't happen quickly - just ask the politicians.

Foghladh

Liam Byrne wrote: »

My point exactly! We claim that we're disgusted by corrupt and objectionable politicians, and yet when offered one that's neither, we rip her to shreds!

Why?

OK, so she's a bit of a religion-head, but I'd rather that to a former terrorist or some who gives character references to child rapists - statutory or otherwise.

I'd rather not have a president who takes guidance from her imaginary friend to be honest.

Liam Byrne

Foghladh wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

My point exactly! We claim that we're disgusted by corrupt and objectionable politicians, and yet when offered one that's neither, we rip her to shreds!

Why?

OK, so she's a bit of a religion-head, but I'd rather that to a former terrorist or some who gives character references to child rapists - statutory or otherwise.

I'd rather not have a president who takes guidance from her imaginary friend to be honest.

If only McGuinness's friends were imaginary......

thebman

anymore wrote: »

The reality is that many of the old grannies who are taken in by Norris may now actaully vote for Dana !
That would be wonderfully ironic !
I dodnt vote for her the last but might this tmi,e to get up the noses of the all the myopic politically correct ! :D:D

Good luck with voting for Dana then but I disagree that Norris supporters would vote for that candidate. It is far more likely she would steal support from Gay Mitchell which is only good news for anyone that doesn't consider homosexuality a sin...

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Well considering we already have one definite candidate and one possible candidate whose opinions should do just that and yet they are inexplicably two of the three front-runners (and the two with the most vocal support on here) anything's possible.

I'd choose Dana over those two any day - at least she hasn't ever done anything despicable.....which ironically means that she's the one who gets ridiculed in this backward country.

Judging from opinion polls, there is only one real candidate in the race. The other so called front runners are only jogging.

caseyann

ah sure why doesn't Shane lynch or Keith Duffy run.Or better still Liam Nesson at least he is a good actor.
Turning it into a sham now.
Some normal nobody who actually did something for this country who never got paid properly for it should run.

Martin has my vote.At least he has shown growth and love for Ireland and Irish people.On top of his parts in the peace process.

Liam Byrne

caseyann wrote: »

Martin has my vote.At least he has shown growth and love for Ireland and Irish people.On top of his parts in the peace process.

Oh my good gawd! "Shown growth and love" ? Does that even make sense ? Or did you mistype what the guy in the balaclava told you to type ?

I don't recall him showing much love to a lot of Irish citizens, mind you.

Dana = no but "Martin" = HELL no!

anymore

thebman wrote: »

Good luck with voting for Dana then but I disagree that Norris supporters would vote for that candidate. It is far more likely she would steal support from Gay Mitchell which is only good news for anyone that doesn't consider homosexuality a sin...



Judging from opinion polls, there is only one real candidate in the race. The other so called front runners are only jogging.

Much of the non gay support for Norris was coming from people who wanted to give the two fingers to the main parties. Many older people still remember Dana as the young girl who brought Ireland.s forst win in the Eurovision. Like her or not, she has gone out in the world and had some accomplishments instead of staying tied to the umbilical cord of the nanny State.

zootroid

I'm hoping Michael D wins it, he's had a distinguished political career, and not merely someone who's looking for an easy pay day (Sean Gallagher and Dana spring to mind. How much of their lives have they given to politics?)

As for Dana, she really is deluded. I can't even see her getting a nomination. She couldn't get elected as a TD, and failed in the presidential election as well. It's time she faced facts. If she does manage to get nominated, I think the popularity of Higgins and McGuinness will blow her out of the water, not to mention the FG voters who will vote for Gay Mitchell. She doesn't stand a chance.

anymore

zootroid wrote: »

I'm hoping Michael D wins it, he's had a distinguished political career, and not merely someone who's looking for an easy pay day (Sean Gallagher and Dana spring to mind. How much of their lives have they given to politics?)

As for Dana, she really is deluded. I can't even see her getting a nomination. She couldn't get elected as a TD, and failed in the presidential election as well. It's time she faced facts. If she does manage to get nominated, I think the popularity of Higgins and McGuinness will blow her out of the water, not to mention the FG voters who will vote for Gay Mitchell. She doesn't stand a chance.

What does distinguished political career mean ? What did Higgins really achieve as a Minister & TD. ? That he had a long and lucratiove carrer taling care mainly of the things he is interested in. i.e the arts and the gaeltacht ?

zootroid

anymore wrote: »

What does distinguished political career mean ? What did Higgins really achieve as a Minister & TD. ? That he had a long and lucratiove carrer taling care mainly of the things he is interested in. i.e the arts and the gaeltacht ?

Ok, former government minister, versus former member of the IRA, some guy who used to be on tv as a "dragon" (a venture capitalist, but only had one successful venture, a property related company), a former MEP (but unheard of by the majority of voters), a former winner of the eurovision and religious loon, and the one who organised the special olympics. Out of all the candidates, he stands out as having most political experience.

The president is one of the most important public offices in the country, someone who would be meeting foreign dignitaries, and to be honest I don't want someone who used to run a company that built houses to be president. Nor do I want someone like Dana, whose social views are regressive to say the least (anti contraception, anti divorce etc). I have no idea of what Gay Mitchell has ever done. I had never heard of him until his nomination.

bijapos

zootroid wrote: »

I'm hoping Michael D wins it, he's had a distinguished political career, and not merely someone who's looking for an easy pay day (Sean Gallagher and Dana spring to mind. How much of their lives have they given to politics?)

As for Dana, she really is deluded. I can't even see her getting a nomination. She couldn't get elected as a TD, and failed in the presidential election as well. It's time she faced facts. If she does manage to get nominated, I think the popularity of Higgins and McGuinness will blow her out of the water, not to mention the FG voters who will vote for Gay Mitchell. She doesn't stand a chance.

Dana is actually a former MEP, she was elected in 1999, and missed out in 2004. Its her stance on such things as divorce and contraception (both of which she is opposed to) which make me think that she is simply not in touch with the vast majority of people in this country.

Not a chance I'll give her a vote, in fact deciding who exactly I'll put at the bottom of the ballot sheet is getting more difficult each day.

anymore

zootroid wrote: »

Ok, former government minister, versus former member of the IRA, some guy who used to be on tv as a "dragon" (a venture capitalist, but only had one successful venture, a property related company), a former MEP (but unheard of by the majority of voters), a former winner of the eurovision and religious loon, and the one who organised the special olympics. Out of all the candidates, he stands out as having most political experience.

The president is one of the most important public offices in the country, someone who would be meeting foreign dignitaries, and to be honest I don't want someone who used to run a company that built houses to be president. Nor do I want someone like Dana, whose social views are regressive to say the least (anti contraception, anti divorce etc). I have no idea of what Gay Mitchell has ever done. I had never heard of him until his nomination.

Did you see the vid on one of the threads where the word Wan****s was adressed at americans ? hardly very dignified ! I am sure Fox news would love to refer to that in advance of a Presidential Vist to US.
Party political experience has no great relevance to the Presiency - as the Two Maryies !
And no matter who it is or what party they represent, 70 years old is simply too old to be looking to be Presidnt, We had enough of that with Dev.

StudentDad

anymore wrote: »

zootroid wrote: »

Ok, former government minister, versus former member of the IRA, some guy who used to be on tv as a "dragon" (a venture capitalist, but only had one successful venture, a property related company), a former MEP (but unheard of by the majority of voters), a former winner of the eurovision and religious loon, and the one who organised the special olympics. Out of all the candidates, he stands out as having most political experience.

The president is one of the most important public offices in the country, someone who would be meeting foreign dignitaries, and to be honest I don't want someone who used to run a company that built houses to be president. Nor do I want someone like Dana, whose social views are regressive to say the least (anti contraception, anti divorce etc). I have no idea of what Gay Mitchell has ever done. I had never heard of him until his nomination.

Did you see the vid on one of the threads where the word Wan****s was adressed at americans ? hardly very dignified ! I am sure Fox news would love to refer to that in advance of a Presidential Vist to US.
Party political experience has no great relevance to the Presiency - as the Two Maryies !
And no matter who it is or what party they represent, 70 years old is simply too old to be looking to be Presidnt, We had enough of that with Dev.

Dana? No thanks! Sinn Fein candidate? No thanks!

I really will despair for this country if either of those two win.

SD

Zubeneschamali

anymore wrote: »

70 years old is simply too old to be looking to be Presidnt, We had enough of that with Dev.

And Douglas Hyde (78).

caseyann

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Oh my good gawd! "Shown growth and love" ? Does that even make sense ? Or did you mistype what the guy in the balaclava told you to type ?

I don't recall him showing much love to a lot of Irish citizens, mind you.

Dana = no but "Martin" = HELL no!

Does any of what you said make sense? Move along your just shouting your anti Sinn Féin hate I am not interested.
I have my right to see it as i see it and thats how i see it and if you dont like it tuff.
Not another one of those candidates suit me and never will.
You dont recall him ever showing much love for Irish people? The things people say just to try turn people against the best candidate thats in the running.
Or you afraid another step to United Ireland.:D

Fr Tod Umptious

StudentDad wrote: »

Dana? No thanks! Sinn Fein candidate? No thanks!

I really will despair for this country if either of those two win.

SD

But they won't so no need to worry.

Oh and by the way get out a vote too, that will help if you vote for someone other than them.

saintsaltynuts

Ah sure Dana.. she into all kinds of everything that one.

Foghladh

Liam Byrne wrote: »

If only McGuinness's friends were imaginary......

Very true. This election is looking more and more like a 'best of a bad lot' situation. I wouldn't have thought it 5 weeks ago but it's starting to look like Michael D might get my vote. Damn it!

keano_afc

I'd still vote for her ahead of Norris though.

Liam Byrne

caseyann wrote: »

Not another one of those candidates suit me and never will.

Not one of them suit me, but there is now a vested interest in choosing the last worst.

caseyann wrote: »

You dont recall him ever showing much love for Irish people? The things people say just to try turn people against the best candidate thats in the running.

Again, making claims that have nothing to back them up. I was referring to the distinct lack of love and compassion that he and his mates showed to the Irish men, women and children that they blew to smithereens.

caseyann wrote: »

Or you afraid another step to United Ireland.:D

If a United Ireland happens, then fine! Great! As long as it's a proper agreed one and not one dictated to us by people who murder fellow Irishmen and spout venom about how Irish people who don't see things their way are "West Brit" and other such absolute bull****.

But if you believe that SF can do no wrong and don't object to their facism and double-speak, I'm not going to be able to correct you; like the gay community and Norris, it needs an open mind to step away from the "common cause" and realise that a divisive and hated candidate will divide Ireland more than unite it.

uberalles

McGuinness's says he will take an average industrial wage if he wins.

Thats admirable considering the greed we hear about every day from
Me Feiners every where.

Foghladh

uberalles wrote: »

McGuinness's says he will take an average industrial wage if he wins.

Thats admirable considering the greed we hear about every day from
Me Feiners every where.

To be honest I don't see the big hurrahs in that. Even if I take it as a 'solidarity with the average Joe' gesture it's still just one notch on the plus side. The negative side has a lot of notches.

MadsL

McGuinness's says he will take an average industrial wage if he wins.

Public or Private sector? North or South?

thebman

anymore wrote: »

Much of the non gay support for Norris was coming from people who wanted to give the two fingers to the main parties. Many older people still remember Dana as the young girl who brought Ireland.s forst win in the Eurovision. Like her or not, she has gone out in the world and had some accomplishments instead of staying tied to the umbilical cord of the nanny State.

Well the main problem with Dana is she has to get nominated in the first place.

I think people that are anti the main parties have the perfect candidate to vote for already, Martin McGuinness, the best person to vote for if you want to get under the collars of the main parties TBH.

ebbsy

Dana ?

Jesus wept.

hotmail.com

She's on 6% in the latest poll. Why is she bothering?

Apparently the RTE programme about GAA managers had to be changed because of her late entry.

niallers1

You just wait until the Opus Dei machine gets behind her..:)

Biggins

I'll just repeat what I've said elsewhere. Thats is, surely her finishing previously in one election in 11th place and third in a previous presidential race, should tell her something!

I think this woman is under delusions of presidential grandeur and via her friends is standing upon weak foundation as regards winning. They might have built her hopes up to unrealistic expectations – and she cannot see this now from her inflated platform height!

I wouldn’t vote for her anyhow – her and Gay Mitchell’s extremist religious views are ten steps backward instead of one step forwards as regards towards positive progression for our state.

She is wasting her time and setting herself up for another fall.
She's only fooling herself - while using an opportunistic occasional appearing microphone to rabbit on about her religious outlook and views that extend from the dark ages of Irelands murky religious, too much influence over state issues, past.

The woman is an out of date dinosaur that just refuses to go away.

RandomName2

Biggins wrote: »

I'll just repeat what I've said elsewhere. Thats is, surely her finishing previously in one election in 11th place and third in a previous presidential race, should tell her something!

I think this woman is under delusions of presidential grandeur and via her friends is standing upon weak foundation as regards winning. They might have built her hopes up to unrealistic expectations – and she cannot see this now from her inflated platform height!

I wouldn’t vote for her anyhow – her and Gay Mitchell’s extremist religious views are ten steps backward instead of one step forwards as regards towards positive progression for our state.

She is wasting her time and setting herself up for another fall.
She's only fooling herself - while using an opportunistic occasional appearing microphone to rabbit on about her religious outlook and views that extend from the dark ages of Irelands murky religious, too much influence over state issues, past.

The woman is an out of date dinosaur that just refuses to go away.

Does Mitchell have extreme religious views? As far as I can see his religious views take a back seat in favour of other Fine Gael policies such as European integration.

Biggins

RandomName2 wrote: »

Does Mitchell have extreme religious views? As far as I can see his religious views take a back seat in favour of other Fine Gael policies such as European integration.

Ya think?

See: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74574010&postcount=11

One section:

After all, he’s only an EXTREMELY religious person that wants religion to play every part in running the country, the EU and everything else under the sun (you can read an example of his words in the Irish Catholic newspaper under the heading “Religion has an important part to play in shaping Europe” – 11th Feb 2010) in regards to the EU and how he wants religion to play a part in EVERY bit of it.

Link: http://www.irishcatholic.ie/site/content/religion-has-important-part-play-shaping-europe-gay-mitchell-mep

DuPLeX

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But they won't so no need to worry.

Oh and by the way get out a vote too, that will help if you vote for someone other than them.

Thanks for clarifying my mind . I'll give one to Dana and two to Martin (though I may switch the two):cool:

Owen

I nearly killed her tonight. She was in Cork, and walked out in front of my car and I'd to slam on the brakes. Got one of those half Eurovision/half I'm a religious nutbag smiles as a reward. I still feel dirty.

jdooley28

Owen wrote: »

I nearly killed her tonight. She was in Cork, and walked out in front of my car and I'd to slam on the brakes. Got one of those half Eurovision/half I'm a religious nutbag smiles as a reward. I still feel dirty.

Should have put the boot down