Too good to be true? bargain-universe.com

donkey oatey

Found this website and can't find any reviews. They have Motorola xooms for €299, iPad 2s for €304.71. What do you guys think?

Basq

You know what they say..

If it's too good to be true...

Hogzy

Basq wrote: »

You know what they say..

If it's too good to be true...

Statement FAIL!!!!

"If it looks to good to be true, it usually is"

Basq

Hogzy wrote: »

Statement FAIL!!!!

"If it looks to good to be true, it usually is"

Why?

EDIT: Oh, I see..

.. my parents would be so disappointed in me!

fergald24

Found this on Amazon, posted by a similar named supplier

About Seller
Recently we found there is a FAKE website use our company name Their contact number is 0161 941 2211 Please DO NOT buy from them, we already report to police If you already bought from them, please cancel your bank card as soon as possible and report to police as well thanks We are a newly established online retailer/wholesaler, located in the Great Manchester with a 5,000 ft ² warehouse to make sure our stock level is well maintained to meet our customers demand. We are a group of hard working people with 100% customer satisfaction in mind and we will try our very best to make sure we deliver not only the best quality item, but also the pleasure of purchasing. Fast delivery, good communication and reasonable price are our policy and we are very happy to receive any constructive feedback from our valued customers and act on it to improve continuously. Thank you very visiting our listing and store and hope to see...read more

The Mulk

ASUS Eee Pad Transformer TF101 16 GB for €180!

Ignore, just read the above post.

donkey oatey

I'm pretty sceptical too but on a little bit of googling I found that the site is connected to a toy shop in Manchester that's been established since '95. But I couldn't find any reference to them anywhere else. I'm thinking about buying something cheap and seeing what happens.

discombobulate

donkey oatey wrote: »

I'm pretty sceptical too but on a little bit of googling I found that the site is connected to a toy shop in Manchester that's been established since '95. But I couldn't find any reference to them anywhere else. I'm thinking about buying something cheap and seeing what happens.

Don't waste your money

donkey oatey

Ooops! Just saw fergald24's post. I'm stepping away from this bargain/scam. Thanks for your responses guys!

Soarer

Hogzy wrote: »

Statement FAIL!!!!

"If it looks to good to be true, it usually is"

Smartarse FAIL!!!!

"If it looks too good to be true, it usually is"

Shane-KornSpace

"
The information you provide to us may be accessed by or given to third parties some of whom may be located outside the European Economic Area who act for us for the purposes set out in this policy or for other purposes approved by you. Those parties process information, fulfil and deliver orders, process credit card payments and provide support services on our behalf.


Finally, if our business enters into a joint venture with or is sold to or merged with another business entity, your information may be disclosed to our new business partners or owners.


Countries outside the European Economic Area do not always have strong data protection laws. However, we will always take steps to ensure that your information is used by third parties in accordance with this policy.


Unless required to do so by law, we will not otherwise share, sell or distribute any of the information you provide to us without your consent."
"

What I gather from this part of their site is that your credit card details are going to a country outside of the EU and that there is no way of making sure that your card details are used in a secure manner.

discombobulate

I added a dishwasher and went to the calculate postage. Says it would be sent by Royal Mail in 3-5 days for €11. Couldn't imagine the postman delivering a dishwasher!

Shane-KornSpace

discombobulate wrote: »

I added a dishwasher and went to the calculate postage. Says it would be sent by Royal Mail in 3-5 days for €11. Couldn't imagine the postman delivering a dishwasher!

€11 delivery for a dishwasher???? wow.
Even their post is a bargain!

d31b0y

If it is a fake, and I do believe it is, it's a very good fake.
All the information that is posted on the site seems to check out.

Company Number
Director
Domain registration
Business registration
Accountants

Just goes to show that you can never be too careful.

ScrubsfanChris

Galaxy Tab 10.1 64GB for €371.30

Ya right

ciaran_

It's a scam!


http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=46968761

infocal

Becareful!

Its should be a scam! 99%

You can compare the Owner of the website:

Patrick Remseck
21 Lower Park Road
New Southgate Industrial Estate
N11 1QD
London
GB
+44.2083615591
patrickremseck@hotmail.com


and the company address:

Bargain Universe Limited
40 Princess Street
M1 6DE
Manchester
United Kingdom


See other posts:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=46968761

DaveGefow

Wouldnt go anywhere near that site

kaizersoze

Their address is a chinese restaurant.......:D

http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=40+Princess+Street,+M1+6DE,+Manchester,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=53.476273,-2.238507&spn=0.011889,0.033023&sll=53.401034,-8.307638&sspn=12.214257,33.815918&vpsrc=0&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.477079,-2.23966&panoid=tfKCzuXyXS5wLDFvuTwPkg&cbp=12,224.17,,0,0

jaykay74

kaizersoze wrote: »

Their address is a chinese restaurant.......:D

http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=40+Princess+Street,+M1+6DE,+Manchester,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=53.476273,-2.238507&spn=0.011889,0.033023&sll=53.401034,-8.307638&sspn=12.214257,33.815918&vpsrc=0&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.477079,-2.23966&panoid=tfKCzuXyXS5wLDFvuTwPkg&cbp=12,224.17,,0,0

I'II have the sweet and sour chicken, fried rice & an Ipad 2.

the groutch

kaizersoze wrote: »

Their address is a chinese restaurant.......:D

http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=40+Princess+Street,+M1+6DE,+Manchester,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=53.476273,-2.238507&spn=0.011889,0.033023&sll=53.401034,-8.307638&sspn=12.214257,33.815918&vpsrc=0&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.477079,-2.23966&panoid=tfKCzuXyXS5wLDFvuTwPkg&cbp=12,224.17,,0,0

it's the place called Citibase next door

kaizersoze

the groutch wrote: »

it's the place called Citibase next door

Spoilsport.....:pac:

Vurnon San Benito

Any website with a hyphen in it's URL is always suspect..

Almost Got Me

Hmmmm!

Nothing to specifically unperpin my concerns, but here is my experience.

Ordered 2 iPhones at a "too good to be true" price - just followed the process and it all looked 100% legitimate through checkout which appeared much like any other site.

I received confirmation emails (in duplicate!?), followed by various emails (in duplicate) dealing with payment processing, essentially advising that the payment would be processed in the morning and order status updated once payment was confirmed. Looked a bit manual and I was starting to get a bit concerned.

Next I received an email with a hyperlink to their site which led me to the following message!

We are sorry for any inconvenience, but as it is your first order with Bargains Store Limited and due to recent credit card fraudulent activities, we no longer accept credit/debit card payments from new customers. You credit/debit card was not charged. Rest assured that Bargains Store Limited is committed to preserving the security of your information and providing a safe online shopping experience.


If you still want to go ahead with your order, you can make the payment by bank transfer. Our bank information is as follows:


Account Name: Bargains Store
Bank Name: Barclays Bank Plc
Acc Number: 73242803
Sort Code: 20-98-57
IBAN: GB82 BARC 20985773242803
BIC/SWIFT : BARC GB22

Transfer Reference ( Transfer Description ): 25578
Amount to be sent: £589.98


Send us an email at sales@bargain-universe.com as soon as the bank transfer is complete.


Additional bank fees that may apply are the sole responsibility of the customer.
The Transfer Reference number must be transmitted to us with the wire transfer in order to ensure the proper application of funds to the transaction.


Your order will be shipped as soon as we received your payment.
Shipping Method: Royal Mail Special Delivery™ Next Day



Thank you for shopping at Bargain-Universe.com
http://www.bargain-universe.com

So there you have it. Goods that are too cheap to be believable, followed by a plausible communication stream following the order that leads to a payment process which, having already captured key identity data - name, address, fully useable credit card details, phone numbers, etc. offers a very reasonable oportunity for you to send 'cash' (together with bank sort code and account numbers no doubt) before any goods will be sent.

So, the end result could be, worst case, no buyer protection, no goods, no cash, bank and credit card details with the seller in an apprently non secure format. In the wrong hands, who knows what might follow.

I used the reply section to cancel the order. This has been confirmed.

As a precaution I have reported the payment card used stolen to ensure that the data provided, should it fall in to the wrong hands, cannot be used. I have spent hours since changing security on all of my on line services where there was any possibility that a scammer could use the data given to gain access.

Oh, and the 0161 222 9005 contact number on the website rings out to voicemail with the message box full and unable to take further input!

So, I do not know that there is anything wrong with this site or vendor, but was sufficiently concerned to take the above steps. Been buying on line since the late 1990s and have never been scammed or needed to take any similar action.

I might have missed out on 2 cheap iPhones - we will see!

Hope this helps! Good luck!

infocal

try to find this guy:


Patrick Remseck
21 Lower Park Road
New Southgate Industrial Estate
N11 1QD
London
GB
+44.2083615591
patrickremseck@hotmail.com

He should be the guy behind. if the domain info is not fake. hehe

Almost Got Me wrote: »

Hmmmm!

Nothing to specifically unperpin my concerns, but here is my experience.

Ordered 2 iPhones at a "too good to be true" price - just followed the process and it all looked 100% legitimate through checkout which appeared much like any other site.

I received confirmation emails (in duplicate!?), followed by various emails (in duplicate) dealing with payment processing, essentially advising that the payment would be processed in the morning and order status updated once payment was confirmed. Looked a bit manual and I was starting to get a bit concerned.

Next I received an email with a hyperlink to their site which led me to the following message!



So there you have it. Goods that are too cheap to be believable, followed by a plausible communication stream following the order that leads to a payment process which, having already captured key identity data - name, address, fully useable credit card details, phone numbers, etc. offers a very reasonable oportunity for you to send 'cash' (together with bank sort code and account numbers no doubt) before any goods will be sent.

So, the end result could be, worst case, no buyer protection, no goods, no cash, bank and credit card details with the seller in an apprently non secure format. In the wrong hands, who knows what might follow.

I used the reply section to cancel the order. This has been confirmed.

As a precaution I have reported the payment card used stolen to ensure that the data provided, should it fall in to the wrong hands, cannot be used. I have spent hours since changing security on all of my on line services where there was any possibility that a scammer could use the data given to gain access.

Oh, and the 0161 222 9005 contact number on the website rings out to voicemail with the message box full and unable to take further input!

So, I do not know that there is anything wrong with this site or vendor, but was sufficiently concerned to take the above steps. Been buying on line since the late 1990s and have never been scammed or needed to take any similar action.

I might have missed out on 2 cheap iPhones - we will see!

Hope this helps! Good luck!

Feidhlim

infocal wrote: »

try to find this guy:


Patrick Remseck
21 Lower Park Road
New Southgate Industrial Estate
N11 1QD
London
GB
+44.2083615591
patrickremseck@hotmail.com

He should be the guy behind. if the domain info is not fake. hehe

Lets visit him

Almost Got Me

Infocal - interesting and thanks.

Reported the site to www.actionfraud.org.uk who were also convinced that the set up pointed to a scam and will report this to the police ...

Pain in the rear, but I think I got away with it. Reported the card as stolen, didn't transfer cash and changed all online user IDs and passwords that had any similarity to the details used when registering on the scam site.

Tried the phone number - unobtainable.

The Actionfraud guy was really keen that Facebook, etc. should be used to warn other people about the risk - get posting - I will!

Gus99

Company now showing as dissolved at Companies House

ooda55

infocal wrote: »

try to find this guy:


Patrick Remseck
21 Lower Park Road
New Southgate Industrial Estate
N11 1QD
London
GB
+44.2083615591
patrickremseck@hotmail.com

He should be the guy behind. if the domain info is not fake. hehe

That phone number is belongs to a clothing business, very fishy
Have just cancelled my order, going to get my card number changed ASAP

Davy

Not a BA so closed