New Sky HD channels

franciec · 17-09-2011 12:26pm #1

Just noticed Cartoon Network and The Disney Channel have been added to Sky's HD lineup. Anybody hear of any other channels going HD soon.

mad muffin · 17-09-2011 2:56pm

Oct 11 - Dave HD - 111
Oct 11 - Watch HD - 109
2011 - TCM HD - 317
2011 - Animal Planet - 525
2012 - Alibi HD - 132
2012 - QVC HD - 640

200motels · 17-09-2011 11:56pm

I find it amazing that all these new HD channels coming to Sky and not a word of our own station RTE2HD been on Sky, it's disgraceful.

mad muffin · 18-09-2011 7:15am

200motels wrote: »

I find it amazing that all these new HD channels coming to Sky and not a word of our own station RTE2HD been on Sky, it's disgraceful.

It's the Irish story really.

Everything half baked and half arsed.

200motels · 18-09-2011 9:32am

mad muffin wrote: »

It's the Irish story really.

Everything half baked and half arsed.

Now you said it.

lgs 4 · 18-09-2011 7:44pm

mad muffin wrote: »

It's the Irish story really.

Everything half baked and half arsed.

RTE ARE UNDER NO OBILGATION TO HAVE THE HD CHANNELS ON SKY BECAUSE OF SOAR SAT THAT,S WHERE RTE HD CHANNELS WILL BE I BET IN 5 YEARS FROM RTE WILL BE GONE FROM SKY :eek: PS I DUMP SKY 4 YEARS FOR FREESAT AND SAVED ME 900 EURO,S A YEAR

Minstrel27 · 18-09-2011 8:05pm

200motels wrote: »

I find it amazing that all these new HD channels coming to Sky and not a word of our own station RTE2HD been on Sky, it's disgraceful.

Have Sky asked RTÉ if they could put it on their EPG? Who is going to pay for the uplink, EPG etc etc

JustAddWater · 18-09-2011 8:09pm

200motels wrote: »

I find it amazing that all these new HD channels coming to Sky and not a word of our own station RTE2HD been on Sky, it's disgraceful.

Not really, it's a unique selling point for soarview. Without rte HD being unique people won't take it up and I know quite a few people who have gone down the saorview road just to watch rugby and champions league in HD. RTE would lose out by giving it to SKY and UPC

channelsurfer2 · 18-09-2011 8:25pm

rte2hd is a great selling point for saorview.. the amount of people talking about soarview these days shows that its actually having an impact. sky dont want to give it any airtime as its not a selling point for their hd.... rte2hd would have to part of the basic sub as they cant charge extra for it... so for now sky see no advantage in having it on it... it wont add any extra hd subs if no additional payment is necessary..

200motels · 18-09-2011 10:28pm

JustAddWater wrote: »

Not really, it's a unique selling point for soarview. Without rte HD being unique people won't take it up and I know quite a few people who have gone down the saorview road just to watch rugby and champions league in HD. RTE would lose out by giving it to SKY and UPC

Yes that's all fine and dandy but as RTE is a PSB they have no choice in the matter they have to offer RTE2HD to Sky and UPC.

DjFlin · 18-09-2011 10:36pm

lgs 4 wrote: »

RTE ARE UNDER NO OBILGATION TO HAVE THE HD CHANNELS ON SKY BECAUSE OF SOAR SAT THAT,S WHERE RTE HD CHANNELS WILL BE I BET IN 5 YEARS FROM RTE WILL BE GONE FROM SKY :eek: PS I DUMP SKY 4 YEARS FOR FREESAT AND SAVED ME 900 EURO,S A YEAR

:rolleyes:

Minstrel27 · 19-09-2011 8:13am

200motels wrote: »

Yes that's all fine and dandy but as RTE is a PSB they have no choice in the matter they have to offer RTE2HD to Sky and UPC.

Do they have to offer them to Sky? If so then why did it take RTÉ so long to get onto Sky in the first place.

Also will Sky pay for the uplink, EPG position and encryption?

dulpit · 21-09-2011 10:04am

200motels wrote: »

Yes that's all fine and dandy but as RTE is a PSB they have no choice in the matter they have to offer RTE2HD to Sky and UPC.

Didn't think they did, that's what the terrestrial signal is for

With Saorsat to catch the people who can't receive that...

channelsurfer2 · 21-09-2011 12:46pm

they dont have to offer it to anyone... there is a difference... they have to provide it to anyone that requests it... subject to normal terms being agreed.

mad muffin · 21-09-2011 4:03pm

dulpit wrote: »

Didn't think they did, that's what the terrestrial signal is for With Saorsat to catch the people who can't receive that...

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

they dont have to offer it to anyone... there is a difference... they have to provide it to anyone that requests it... subject to normal terms being agreed.

Look I said it before and I'll say it again. I and many others I know and just looking at the houses in my estate, don't have an aerial.

We don't want to go to the expense of installing one but we have sky.

We get rte, rte2, tg4, tv3 and 3e. Why can't we get rte2hd on sky? After all we do pay or tv licence.

dulpit · 21-09-2011 5:07pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Look I said it before and I'll say it again. I and many others I know and just looking at the houses in my estate, don't have an aerial.

We don't want to go to the expense of installing one but we have sky.

We get rte, rte2, tg4, tv3 and 3e. Why can't we get rte2hd on sky? After all we do pay or tv licence.

Your logic makes no sense.. If you reverse it you could say, I have an aerial but no satellite dish. I want Sky but don't want the expense of paying for it...

JDxtra · 21-09-2011 5:11pm

Sky have strict broadcast and content rules that a HD channel needs to meet before being considered for a listing on their EPG. This includes a minimum amount of HD content.

RTE Two "HD" currently doesn't come anywhere close to meeting the minimum requirements, therefore they may not even accept it in its current form.

mad muffin · 21-09-2011 5:43pm

dulpit wrote: »

Your logic makes no sense.. If you reverse it you could say, I have an aerial but no satellite dish. I want Sky but don't want the expense of paying for it...

JDxtra wrote: »

Sky have strict broadcast and content rules that a HD channel needs to meet before being considered for a listing on their EPG. This includes a minimum amount of HD content.

RTE Two "HD" currently doesn't come anywhere close to meeting the minimum requirements, therefore they may not even accept it in its current form.

So you are saying that alibi will have high hd content?

blueser · 21-09-2011 10:41pm

mad muffin wrote: »

So you are saying that alibi will have high hd content?

Did he say that? I thought he said that a HD channel had to have a ''minimum content'' of HD programming for Sky to consider it for their EPG. I don't see anywhere where he quantified what that content is, percentage or any other wise.

mad muffin · 22-09-2011 6:41am

blueser wrote: »

Did he say that? I thought he said that a HD channel had to have a ''minimum content'' of HD programming for Sky to consider it for their EPG. I don't see anywhere where he quantified what that content is, percentage or any other wise.

Hahaha!!!! You are too funny.

mossym · 22-09-2011 7:52am

mad muffin wrote: »

Hahaha!!!! You are too funny.

there's nothing funny in what he said. right now rte2 is broadcasting less than 5% of it's material in HD based on 6 hours of sports at the weekend. that's unlikely to meet any threshold by any provider if they had one, and all alibi would have to do is broadcast 2 hours of hd a say and they would have 2 to 3x what rtehd have

that of course could all change when rte starts broadcasting imported material in HD, which it already says it will do

and just because you cannot see aerials in your neighbors houses doesn't mean they're not there, there is no aerial visible on the outside of my house but i have one all the same

The Orb · 22-09-2011 8:08am

lgs 4 wrote: »

RTE ARE UNDER NO OBILGATION TO HAVE THE HD CHANNELS ON SKY BECAUSE OF SOAR SAT THAT,S WHERE RTE HD CHANNELS WILL BE I BET IN 5 YEARS FROM RTE WILL BE GONE FROM SKY :eek: PS I DUMP SKY 4 YEARS FOR FREESAT AND SAVED ME 900 EURO,S A YEAR

You're not comparing like for like, plenty of channels on Sky not on Freesat, not to mention sport and movies.

mad muffin · 22-09-2011 9:16am

mossym wrote: »

there's nothing funny in what he said. right now rte2 is broadcasting less than 5% of it's material in HD based on 6 hours of sports at the weekend. that's unlikely to meet any threshold by any provider if they had one, and all alibi would have to do is broadcast 2 hours of hd a say and they would have 2 to 3x what rtehd have

that of course could all change when rte starts broadcasting imported material in HD, which it already says it will do

and just because you cannot see aerials in your neighbors houses doesn't mean they're not there, there is no aerial visible on the outside of my house but i have one all the same

You guys are why Ireland is in the mess that it is.

Minstrel27 · 22-09-2011 9:23am

mad muffin wrote: »

You guys are why Ireland is in the mess that it is.

How does that equate to the state of this country?

mossym · 22-09-2011 9:24am

mad muffin wrote: »

You guys are why Ireland is in the mess that it is.

presented with simple facts, you fall back to insults. i said nothing about whether rte2hd should be on sky hd or not, just presented some simple facts.

denial of facts. and hoping for a freebie, as you have done in your last two posts, are what has the country in the state it is

if you're going to have a go, at least pick someone that was actually arguing against you.

mad muffin · 22-09-2011 9:50am

mossym wrote: »

presented with simple facts, you fall back to insults. i said nothing about whether rte2hd should be on sky hd or not, just presented some simple facts.

denial of facts. and hoping for a freebie, as you have done in your last two posts, are what has the country in the state it is

if you're going to have a go, at least pick someone that was actually arguing against you.

I pay my tv licence, hardly a freebie.

Minstrel27 · 22-09-2011 9:55am

mad muffin wrote: »

I pay my tv licence, hardly a freebie.

Does Sky want to carry RTÉ Two HD?

STB · 22-09-2011 9:58am

mad muffin wrote: »

Look I said it before and I'll say it again. I and many others I know and just looking at the houses in my estate, don't have an aerial.

We don't want to go to the expense of installing one but we have sky.

We get rte, rte2, tg4, tv3 and 3e. Why can't we get rte2hd on sky? After all we do pay or tv licence.

An Aerial is less than €20.

Sky is on average €50/60 a month. This is a private agreement you have entered into with a foreign pay television company. You didnt have to.

You do not have to pay Sky to get RTE (inlcuding RTE2HD). It is FREE to Air.

The TV licence does not guarantee you anything especially what is on your SUBSCRIPTION based TV packages that YOU have chosen to sign up to.

Why dont you get onto the people you are paying and complain !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ie Sky.

A more important question you should ask yourself is why am I paying Sky for channels that are FREE to air.

I tell you one thing its a lot more than the price of a bloody aerial.

Ignornance doesnt have to be bliss.

mossym · 22-09-2011 9:59am

mad muffin wrote: »

We don't want to go to the expense of installing one

mad muffin wrote: »

I pay my tv licence, hardly a freebie.

sky has zero interest in you paying a license or not so they won't feel under any obligation to carry them based on payment or non payment of license fees.

i imagine one way to get sky to carry them would be to get a large number of sky subscribers to leave sky and tell them the reason is that there is no rte2hd on sky.

i think most people would just add an aerial though

channelsurfer2 · 22-09-2011 12:47pm

STB wrote: »

An Aerial is less than €20.

Sky is on average €50/60 a month. This is a private agreement you have entered into with a foreign pay television company. You didnt have to.

You do not have to pay Sky to get RTE (inlcuding RTE2HD). It is FREE to Air.

The TV licence does not guarantee you anything especially what is on your SUBSCRIPTION based TV packages that YOU have chosen to sign up to.

Why dont you get onto the people you are paying and complain !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ie Sky.

A more important question you should ask yourself is why am I paying Sky for channels that are FREE to air.

I tell you one thing its a lot more than the price of a bloody aerial.

Ignornance doesnt have to be bliss.

exactly... sky love the fact that they can charge you what they like and provide what service they like... hence no bbc1hd on the service. its a commercial service.. you pay for it so complain to sky not rte.

Stinicker · 22-09-2011 3:03pm

200motels wrote: »

I find it amazing that all these new HD channels coming to Sky and not a word of our own station RTE2HD been on Sky, it's disgraceful.

RTE2 "HD" is not a High Defintion TV Station, 99.99% of its content is upscaled so that is looks slightly better than normal crappovision.

So far we have seen a handful of GAA matches and the odd soccer and rugby match in High Def and that is it, most of these are feeds generated by external sources except the GAA which seems to be RTE inhouse and for the majority of the games this year RTE were making a total dogs dinner of it and only got the broadcasts right from about the semi-final stage onwards, the even messed up the Ireland - France Rugby game.

To get on Sky as a High Defintion Channel you must meet certain criteria as a HD channel RTE does not meet that at the moment and until they start getting more content out in HD then Sky will not be interested in it. RTE also want to keep their HD content on Saorview as a selling point to push the product and hopefully they will show their imported programming in HD and stuff like Home and Away and CSI are all shot in HD yet RTE still haven't broadcast their imported programming in HD.

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