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Camper for under €2000

  • 15-09-2011 5:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭


    Hi All

    I’m new the campervans and must admit I’m a bit clueless on what to look for.

    What are my chances of getting a decent one for under €2K ? Would I be better off paying more than my budget for one with a DOE.

    I have some other questions as well.Apolgies if they are a bit basic.


    - Is there any particular make/model I should consider at my budget?

    - Is the DOE as strict as the NCT for campers?

    - When I rang the insurance company they advised I would need an engineers report. Will any mechanic be able to so this or is it a specialist job?

    - Is there only one place that quotes insurance for campers?


    Thanks

    Barr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Aidan_M_M


    I've added my answers/opinions within your original post.
    Barr wrote: »
    Hi All

    I’m new the campervans and must admit I’m a bit clueless on what to look for.

    What are my chances of getting a decent one for under €2K ?
    Between slim and none to be painfully honest .

    Would I be better off paying more than my budget for one with a DOE.
    Even going to 6-7k you'll struggle to get a decent one , with DOE .

    I have some other questions as well.Apolgies if thsy are a bit basic.


    - Is there any particular make/model I should consider at my budget?

    - Is the DOE as strict as the NCT for campers?
    Not really , the DOE in general is less strict than the NCT , regardless of what it's for . It's still all about brakes , suspension, sterring , lights , emissions etc .

    - When I rang the insurance company they advised I would need an engineers report. Will any mechanic be able to so this or is it a specialist job?
    AFAIK it has to be a SIMI registered garage . I stand to be corrected though..

    - Is there only one place that quotes insurance for campers?
    Nope , Dolmen , Stuarts(Stewarts?) , and Bill Lupton are 3 I know of .


    Thanks

    Barr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Engineers Report - Dolmen it's SIMI or Main Dealership. Stuarts I think are Main Dealership only now. I don't think there's much in their rates or cover.

    You'd be struggling at that money imo, maybe a small campervan rather than motorhome. You might get a conversion in reasonable mechanical and body work nick, but needs a camping side overhaul. Possibly a T25 that needs a bit of work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    HI,
    I agree with Macy0161, if size is not important go for a campervan. I bought my 2 berth on ebay for under your budget and have had no problems in 3 years. When I went to the U.K. to look it over I was prepared to write off the cost of airfare if it wasn't up to scratch but I struck lucky.
    Not sure if the state of the economy is a help or hinderance, people selling because they need cash but but more people looking to buy because they can't afford to go away for holidays.

    Keep looking and the best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭bluethunder


    I bought a campervan (converted Ducato) recently and was trawling all the donedeal type sites for months in order to get the right one. You will not get anything decent for 2k, especially not a motorhome-type thing.

    If you want something reliable and well kitted out you are going to need to triple your budget, unless you want a project to work on over the winter. A lot of people have different views on makes and models. VWs have a good reputation but are over-priced. Fiat, Ford, Iveco, Peugeot, Renault all have their good and bad points.

    My main concern was reliability and bodywork. I wanted something with relatively low mileage for the year and as rust free as possible. A full service history is always a bonus.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭bluethunder


    Those links are all for the same van. Anyway, in the description:

    "Body needs some attention ... 300k miles...unfinished project".

    Not exactly ideal. You could spend another fair bit getting it ready and then how long will your engine hold out?

    You probably will find vans in that price range but you can be sure there are things lurking that will cause headaches and put a hole in your wallet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    Thanks for the advise so far guys :)

    I've spotted this one which seems to tick most boxes. What ye think?

    Are these reliable ?

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2342162


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭haveabadday


    Hi I cant find how to post a new thread up on here!!!! havent used it for long time.. so bit lost!! any help please...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Barr wrote: »
    Are these reliable ?
    As far as I'm aware, transits would have an alright reputation engine wise, and parts are cheap. However, they wouldn't have the best reputation bodywork rust wise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    Hi I cant find how to post a new thread up on here!!!! havent used it for long time.. so bit lost!! any help please...

    go to the forum you want to post in
    click forum tools
    click post new thread;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭25sean


    Irish goat man!!

    should probably start a new thread for answers, but just saw your post re a camper bought abroad on ebay.. looking at a few things in england myself and am wondering about the vrt.. extra cost to take into consideration... i was on their forum but was still unsure of what id be looking at..

    is a camper's vrt done at 13.5% OMSP?
    is that what it would cost to buy it new these days or do they take the age of the van into consideration?

    thanks for any answers.. hoping not to be stung with an extra bill when I bring a nice one home!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware, transits would have an alright reputation engine wise, and parts are cheap. However, they wouldn't have the best reputation bodywork rust wise.

    Given its got a current DOE , can I assume its fairly rust free ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    25sean wrote: »
    Irish goat man!!

    should probably start a new thread for answers, but just saw your post re a camper bought abroad on ebay.. looking at a few things in england myself and am wondering about the vrt.. extra cost to take into consideration... i was on their forum but was still unsure of what id be looking at..

    is a camper's vrt done at 13.5% OMSP?
    is that what it would cost to buy it new these days or do they take the age of the van into consideration?

    thanks for any answers.. hoping not to be stung with an extra bill when I bring a nice one home!

    Hi 25sean,
    I'm afraid I can't help you with this. Things have changed, I believe, since I imported mine so it's best if I say nothing. My VRT was based on the open market valuation and once I had paid it, argued about their valuation and received a refund (surprise, surprise) I forgot all about it and can't lay my hands on the paperwork which is well filed. At that time it still kept the price of the camper reasonable compared to what was on offer over here.
    If you scan back through this site you will find threads that refer to the changes as there has been a lot of noise about it.

    Just had a quick scan and it does look as though it's 13.5% of Open Market Value in Ireland. They will tell you what they think, you will have to pay this then submit proof ( details from ebay/donedeal etc) of 'vans for sale/recently sold that are comparable to yours but under their valuation and argue for a refund.
    Great fun, if like me, you enjoy arguing with authorities!!!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭macshadow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    macshadow wrote: »

    if thats all that it seems then probably its worth a gamble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭650Ginge


    meercat wrote: »
    macshadow wrote: »

    if thats all that it seems then probably its worth a gamble

    That has to sell easy. That roof bed is a great thing. It is an older van but still.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭the rambler


    Hi 25sean,
    I'm afraid I can't help you with this. Things have changed, I believe, since I imported mine so it's best if I say nothing. My VRT was based on the open market valuation and once I had paid it, argued about their valuation and received a refund (surprise, surprise) I forgot all about it and can't lay my hands on the paperwork which is well filed. At that time it still kept the price of the camper reasonable compared to what was on offer over here.
    If you scan back through this site you will find threads that refer to the changes as there has been a lot of noise about it.

    Just had a quick scan and it does look as though it's 13.5% of Open Market Value in Ireland. They will tell you what they think, you will have to pay this then submit proof ( details from ebay/donedeal etc) of 'vans for sale/recently sold that are comparable to yours but under their valuation and argue for a refund.
    Great fun, if like me, you enjoy arguing with authorities!!!.
    as a matter of intrest how much of a refund did you get back???
    i got a refund of €232 on my burstner when i appealed/argued with them and im just wondering whats the average?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    650Ginge wrote: »
    That has to sell easy. That roof bed is a great thing. It is an older van but still.

    spot on
    sold quick
    think someone got a real bargain there
    anyone on here?????

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2541513


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    as a matter of intrest how much of a refund did you get back???
    i got a refund of €232 on my burstner when i appealed/argued with them and im just wondering whats the average?

    Sorry, only just seen this.

    The only way to get an average is to know the percentage. I got a refund of 28%. Which I was quite pleased with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    macshadow wrote: »

    Darn it was sold by the time I got to it - that looks like it would have been ideal. Right price and had a current engineer report :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    Barr wrote: »
    Darn it was sold by the time I got to it - that looks like it would have been ideal. Right price and had a current engineer report :(

    and you in cork too
    great spot macshadow
    something like this ,you gotta act quick
    dont worry though ,a gem will come up every now and then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    meercat wrote: »
    and you in cork too
    great spot macshadow
    something like this ,you gotta act quick
    dont worry though ,a gem will come up every now and then


    Thats the most annoying part - it was really close as well. I'll just have to be faster next time ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    outside €2000 thoughbut you might get it for less
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2261930?cid=2261930&


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    There's this one,
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2552369

    But he seems to be a bit ahead of things with his ZV reg;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    Good spot guys (the Ford is already gone) - the only thing is the lack of a DOE, which is a bit off putting, especially for a novice looking for a first buy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭the rambler


    Sorry, only just seen this.

    The only way to get an average is to know the percentage. I got a refund of 28%. Which I was quite pleased with.

    i just spotted this my self, (dont know why i didnt get the usual email notification)
    i did the maths on my refund and guess what i got 28.odd% refund aswell,
    it must be a thing they do just refund 28% and thats it,

    i wonder if we appealed that decision where would that get us??:)
    has anybody done that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭Irishgoatman


    i just spotted this my self, (dont know why i didnt get the usual email notification)
    i did the maths on my refund and guess what i got 28.odd% refund aswell,
    it must be a thing they do just refund 28% and thats it,

    i wonder if we appealed that decision where would that get us??:)
    has anybody done that?

    That could be good fun.

    Keep appealing the appeal decision until they get fed up and make it zero perhaps?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭meercat


    posted this one earlier and it sold quick

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2541513

    its back up again(dont know if new owners found problems though)

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2638318


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    meercat wrote: »
    posted this one earlier and it sold quick

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2541513

    its back up again(dont know if new owners found problems though)

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/2638318

    This is my second time slow off the mark. Just saw this reply now, phoned the seller and the fooking van is already sold :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭spaceHopper




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭Barr


    Seems good value but it only sleeps two so its out for me. Maybe the HYMER might make a third appearance on this thread if the new owner tries to flog it again:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭macshadow


    OP, just in case you are still looking. Not under 2k but you never know.
    www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/campers/3128469


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    Thinking of a circa €2000 van myself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭porterboy




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