Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

What's the most pro trans political party?

  • 15-09-2011 1:08pm
    #1
    Azure_sky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭


    Not sure if it's Labour or Sinn Fein. I'm not even going to mention the right wingers.


Comments

  • #2
    Meesared
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Azure_sky wrote: »
    Not sure if it's Labour or Sinn Fein. I'm not even going to mention the right wingers.
    I wouldnt say Sinn Fein, they make pretences about being Liberal to win votes, but there wouldn't be much substance behind it.


  • #3
    deirdre_dub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭deirdre_dub


    Azure_sky wrote: »
    Not sure if it's Labour or Sinn Fein. I'm not even going to mention the right wingers.
    Labour have an LGBT section. Not sure if they are the only party to have such a section.


  • #4
    unfortunately
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭unfortunately


    Labour has a LGBT wing and Sinn Fein supports Pride marches etc.

    The thing about SF is its base is divided between conservative Catholic nationalists and socialist republicans. But I do think SF are led more by the Left than by Rome.
    Meesared wrote: »
    I wouldnt say Sinn Fein, they make pretences about being Liberal to win votes, but there wouldn't be much substance behind it.
    I think SF would actually lose votes by suggesting full same sex marriage and equality than if they just stayed quiet, a la FF or FG.


  • #5
    Teddy_Picker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭Teddy_Picker


    Sinn Féin's policies on their website discuss policies relating to lesbian, gay and bisexual rights etc. ,no mention of transgender however.
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/16522

    There is a Sinn Féin LGBT facebook page in existence: http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/SinnFein-Lgbt/100001374936795


  • #6
    TylerIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭TylerIE


    unfortunately wrote: »
    Labour has a LGBT wing and Sinn Fein supports Pride marches etc.

    As stated above, Sinn Fein also has an LGBT wing. Iv had the opportunity to discuss it with a lot of their members and there actually is quite a lot of substance to their LGBT stances, although they have let other issues kinda take precedence. The LGBT wing has strong, young, enthusiastic leadership and seems to be encouraged by the party as opposed to kept under the whip.

    With regard to the OPs question I only know GLB people in the Sinn Fein LGBT wing but I hope thats a positive indication.
    I think SF would actually lose votes by suggesting full same sex marriage and equality than if they just stayed quiet, a la FF or FG.


    I'd agree with this. Border (Former) TD Seymour Crawford, (Fine Gael), was very public in his opposition to the Civil Partnership Bill, and claimed this was based on the feeling from his constituents. His FF constituency colleagues kept quiet during the debates. Sinn Fein polls well in the border counties and would have a strong Catholic following. These are areas where Labour and the Greens dont even show up in the polls.

    A high profile LGBT stance may attract some younger followers, but certainly doesnt go down well with the weekly mass-goers.


  • Advertisement
  • #7
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    As suggested before, we could set up the T-Party. http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/tdssenators/registerofpoliticalparties/

    Then we'd be completely pro-trans and lgbt.


  • #8
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I don't think it's a secret that I'm active within labour LGBT although not as much as I used to be. - I can dig out the party conference motion if you want. Labour LGBT have had quite a good relationship with TENI in recent years although obviously the issue of gender recognition legislation is very very problematic. Joan Burton is bringing it forward.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #9
    Meesared
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Meesared


    TylerIE wrote: »
    I'd agree with this. Border (Former) TD Seymour Crawford, (Fine Gael), was very public in his opposition to the Civil Partnership Bill, and claimed this was based on the feeling from his constituents. His FF constituency colleagues kept quiet during the debates. Sinn Fein polls well in the border counties and would have a strong Catholic following. These are areas where Labour and the Greens dont even show up in the polls.

    A high profile LGBT stance may attract some younger followers, but certainly doesnt go down well with the weekly mass-goers.
    Seymour Crawford was my neighbour at home :mad:


  • #10
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Labour & ULA probably. I used to support Labour but not anymore because I've become a little bit more fiscally conservative, though I still support their social policies. If only there was a party that was both socially progressive and economically right-wing, I'd totally join it. But there isn't. The PD's used to be both socially progressive & fiscally conservative until they became joined at the hip with Fianna Fáil - well that's what I heard anyway.

    General rule of thumb:

    FF & FG: right-wing catholic. Not socially progressive. Are in no way pro-gay marriage or abortion, etc..
    Sinn Féin: Populist - they'll say or do anything just to get votes (Fianna Fáil are a bit like that too but a little bit more conservative).
    Labour: Democratic Socialist/ Social Democratic, very socially progressive. Labour have two newly elected gay TDs.
    ULA: Socialist/ Trotskyist/ Marxist. Not to everyone's liking but they are still very socially progressive.


Advertisement