duped? again

eternal

My front door wasnt opening by the key so I took it back to the garage it was last in.he said he had to order a part.im not stupid enough to believe that the little clips inside the door are that hard to get.its an old bmw but are there different parts for each model and car.
I know they are making a fool of me which is sick because he knows my finacial situation is not good.
No I wont be going back there I just want a decent honest answer.the central locking is broken in the key so opening the driver door opens the rest.
I saw a little plastic clip he took out.you could prob get them anywhere

seanybiker

If It's the chip in the key then yes they cost a bit to get programmed and all that crap.

Shops don't have different prices for people financially secure and those finding it hard so you'll just have to bite the bullet.

eternal

seanybiker wrote: »

If It's the chip in the key then yes they cost a bit to get programmed and all that crap.

Shops don't have different prices for people financially secure and those finding it hard so you'll just have to bite the bullet.

No sorry its the door isnt opening with the key.do you get me ? And he took out a plastic circle bout inch big.
Its not the key but the door.

seanybiker

Oh sorry I picked it up wrong. Dunno so.

barura

Open car from passenger side?

kdevitt

What year and model is the BMW? On an e30 for example the locks do have a small plastic clip which connects the barrel to a rod which operates the actual lock, and fires the central locking solenoid. They're cheap as chips though.

Nissan doctor

eternal wrote: »

My front door wasnt opening by the key so I took it back to the garage it was last in.he said he had to order a part.im not stupid enough to believe that the little clips inside the door are that hard to get.its an old bmw but are there different parts for each model and car.
I know they are making a fool of me which is sick because he knows my finacial situation is not good.
No I wont be going back there I just want a decent honest answer.the central locking is broken in the key so opening the driver door opens the rest.
I saw a little plastic clip he took out.you could prob get them anywhere

The guy your bringing it to must have a garage the size of croke park if you expect him to have every random part for whatever car you bring in there to hand.:rolleyes:

A specific part has failed, he has to order it from BMW if you want it fixed, your financial situation or your incorrect assumption that every car door has the same parts has no bearing on this.

If things are that bad, don't get it fixed. Its not your mechanics fault that it broke!

eternal

I should prob have explained that im in and out of there constantly.they had the car three times and it was cutting out on the road.this meant I was stranded often with nobody even trying to help.
I told them last feb I thought there was air getting in from thr noise.it took them five months to fix this.not even looking for what I said was wrong and I turned out to be right even though im not a mechanic.
Its a joke now at this stage.they tried to fix the brakes twice which cost enough ,they arent working prop either.
Its a 318 I and its 1995.that sounds right ,the part is only a piece of plastic ,its tiny.it would be cheap as chips bit hes making out he has to order a savage piece and it could prove very dear.
I know im being made a fool of .

Pdfile

eternal wrote: »

I should prob have explained that im in and out of there constantly.they had the car three times and it was cutting out on the road.this meant I was stranded often with nobody even trying to help.
I told them last feb I thought there was air getting in from thr noise.it took them five months to fix this.not even looking for what I said was wrong and I turned out to be right even though im not a mechanic.
Its a joke now at this stage.they tried to fix the brakes twice which cost enough ,they arent working prop either.
Its a 318 I and its 1995.that sounds right ,the part is only a piece of plastic ,its tiny.it would be cheap as chips bit hes making out he has to order a savage piece and it could prove very dear.
I know im being made a fool of .

if they are an offical garage, i would have 2-3 mechanics from Boards being the kind hearted souls that they are giving it a good look over ( you list the parts changed/effected )

they give their professional opinion, if its in you're favour... sue the c*nt and gets you're moneys back ( and maybe a newer bmw ?? :P )

Mr.Boots

Why do you keep going back there so?

If its as tiny and easy as you say....go to ebay, buy the part and fit it yourslef or get someone to fit it.
Give OTTO a call and see how much the part is.
Be proactive rather than moaning.

mb1725

My O.H had an old e36 with similar problem. The lock barrels (numbered 16) just wore out so that the key would not open anything. The only solution was replacement barrels, which had to be ordered through the main dealer based on car vin number.

eternal

eternal wrote: »

........Its a 318 I and its 1995.that sounds right ,the part is only a piece of plastic ,its tiny.it would be cheap as chips bit hes making out he has to order a savage piece and it could prove very dear.
I know im being made a fool of .

In fairness the part could be expenive and also no doubt it is model specific, that aside they could still be apes given the issues you've had with them.

aido 1976

If you are not sadisfied with the mechanic opinion and quotation, go different garage

eternal

Mr.Boots wrote: »

Why do you keep going back there so?

If its as tiny and easy as you say....go to ebay, buy the part and fit it yourslef or get someone to fit it.
Give OTTO a call and see how much the part is.
Be proactive rather than moaning.

i came on here to get help ,which is being proactive.I dont know anyone who could fit it for me nor could I do it myself .I have never heard of otto ,you cant just presume a person would know all of these things which is why this forum exists .
Tbh if people dont want to read this ,then dont read it .Im only looking for advice .

eternal

mb1725 wrote: »

My O.H had an old e36 with similar problem. The lock barrels (numbered 16) just wore out so that the key would not open anything. The only solution was replacement barrels, which had to be ordered through the main dealer based on car vin number.

I think its 4 and 3 are broken ,thanks this was very helpful,i havent had internet lately ,so havent been able to access info such as this .

eternal

RoverJames wrote: »

In fairness the part could be expenive and also no doubt it is model specific, that aside they could still be apes given the issues you've had with them.

I doubt an inch piece of plastic would cost more then ten euro ,they are a joke.Every time i got work done I had to go back again and I tried another garage and it was the same with them too .
The only reason I went back was cause I owe them money and cant afford another garage so thought they would be easier on me .I wont be going back though and I am using the other door atm but im afraid i may not be able to lock it soon .It really has to be fixed.

TestTransmission

Mr.Boots wrote: »

Why do you keep going back there so?

If its as tiny and easy as you say....go to ebay, buy the part and fit it yourslef or get someone to fit it.
Give OTTO a call and see how much the part is.
Be proactive rather than moaning.

Be nice now, OP came here looking for advice.

aido 1976

Came here to give out more like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

OP If you are not happy, you should go elsewhere, Simples....

Shop around

-Chris-

eternal wrote: »

I think its 4 and 3 are broken

What are you basing this on, if you don't mind me asking?

Hiace.

eternal wrote: »

My front door wasnt opening by the key so I took it back to the garage it was last in.he said he had to order a part.im not stupid enough to believe that the little clips inside the door are that hard to get.its an old bmw but are there different parts for each model and car.
I know they are making a fool of me which is sick because he knows my finacial situation is not good.
No I wont be going back there I just want a decent honest answer.the central locking is broken in the key so opening the driver door opens the rest.
I saw a little plastic clip he took out.you could prob get them anywhere

Would a breakers yard be any help ?

Search here :

http://www.partfinder.ie/

Also, try Traynors, they deliver to most parts of Ireland

http://www.traynors.co.uk/

ronan45

Had an old BMW myself that i spent a BOMB on parts are so pricey after about 3500 of parts over 4 years i let her go. They seem to be pricey to repair, And maybe just maybe when the mechanic sees a bmw they throw a few quid on :P

eternal

eternal wrote: »

...........The only reason I went back was cause I owe them money and cant afford another garage so thought they would be easier on me ............

.
In fairness if they are giving you credit you should be appreciative of that, most garages wouldn't touch a job done on the never never.

You have no clue how much the part costs or if it is available seperately no summising about that being a tenner is just silly really.

Mr.Boots

eternal wrote: »

i came on here to get help ,which is being proactive.I dont know anyone who could fit it for me nor could I do it myself .I have never heard of otto ,you cant just presume a person would know all of these things which is why this forum exists .
Tbh if people dont want to read this ,then dont read it .Im only looking for advice .

Otto.....http://www.otto.ie/iopen24/

Google's Great!

eternal

-Chris- wrote: »

What are you basing this on, if you don't mind me asking?

cos when I went into the garage ,I saw those pieces thrown down on the ground ,in the car having been taken out of the door.As already specified on here earlier .

-Chris-

I still don't understand.

This looks like some kind of spacer you're referring to, did he damage it when he was disassembling the door handle?

Is this related to the fact that the car won't unlock, or is it separate?

Are you suggesting that he removed, or is replacing, this part with the intention of fixing the non-locking issue, or is he ordering more parts as well?

Do you think this particular part is causing the issue with the locking?

eternal

-Chris- wrote: »

I still don't understand.

This looks like some kind of spacer you're referring to, did he damage it when he was disassembling the door handle?

Is this related to the fact that the car won't unlock, or is it separate?

Are you suggesting that he removed, or is replacing, this part with the intention of fixing the non-locking issue, or is he ordering more parts as well?

Do you think this particular part is causing the issue with the locking?

What im saying is I saw those pieces on the floor of the car.he didnt know I saw them.he had the door put back on at this stage.he asked me to come back later ,at which time he then told me he needed to order a part.so I dont know anything about parts other than that.yes its all in relation to the door not opening.
Cheers for the replies and time ye have taken .i do understand I may come across as confusing but I dont have a clue about mechanics

Sofiztikated

I'm mighty confused as well.

You think it was a clip, or the 2 spacer. You don't know how much they are, or what the part is, but you think it should be a tenner?

You think they are screwing you, but you owe them money from previous work?

You're unhappy with previous work, but continue going to them, and when you went to a different garage, you were unhappy with their work as well.

Yeah. Em. Right.

-Chris-

eternal wrote: »

What im saying is I saw those pieces on the floor of the car.he didnt know I saw them.he had the door put back on at this stage.he asked me to come back later ,at which time he then told me he needed to order a part.so I dont know anything about parts other than that.yes its all in relation to the door not opening.
Cheers for the replies and time ye have taken .i do understand I may come across as confusing but I dont have a clue about mechanics

So, you don't even know what part he's ordering, but you're happy to start a thread and say you're being duped by a dishonest mechanic?

From one of your posts it sounds like he may not be that competent, but I think you're losing the plot while not having enough information to make any kind of informed decision.
If you go to him with any kind of ultimatum (e.g. "don't order the part, I'm going to take the car elsewhere, and I won't be paying you the outstanding amount because I don't think you're fixing my car correctly and it's more trouble than it's worth") I think he'll cut you to shreds.

Get more info, and come back looking for advice based on the correct and complete information.

slimjimmc

What price did they quote for the new part?

The part which you see as a simple bit of plastic may in fact be a part that hasn't been produced in the last 10 years, and even then only low volumes may have been reserved for spare. Such items may be in short supply and only available through a limited set of channels (therefore not as readily available as you assume). Factor in a courier to deliver it and costs keep going up.


If you go to a breaker's yard you may have to buy the whole door handle/lock assembly and could just end up with a worn part for the same money. A breaker is unlikely to sell you a plastic clip on its own if it renders the rest of the assembly useless and unsaleable.


[edit] In light of new revelations since I started writing this post I fully agree the OP is totally unwarranted in his claims about being taken for a mug based on nothing more than his assumptions.[/edit]

eternal

It wouldnt be the first time ibe been made a fool of.im not going to have clearer info as i.dont know about parts.
One garage glued a pipe together which they charged me 100 euros for the new part which was never replaced only glued.
I dont know why everyones so angry here.
Everyone rips me off when I get my car done ,no matter where I go.
Another time they 'fixed' the handbrake,when I paid it was still not working.ive been to the nct four times each time cos the bad work being done.
I change garage ,same things happen.
Why is everyone blaming me.i came on here looking for help

-Chris-

No one's blaming you or is angry with you, but it's impossible for us to help or advise you unless you can give accurate and complete information.

If you're just looking to have a moan and have everyone nod and tell you how right you are, you're probably in the wrong forum...

eternal

I am here to get advice on my car.im sorry if my infomation isnt complete but I havent a clue really.when and if I know more ill say.im not shallow and stupid enough to waste time on here.maybe the frustration made me vent a bit.only human im afraid.

Hiace.

Any luck with the breakers yards ?

bfocusd

if you have paid for the breaks etc to be fixed, i would continue to ask them to fix them, you paid for a service, make sure you get what you paid for, i wouldnt just walk away. (unless they are slowly making your car worse!!!)

could you maybe pick this part up from a breakers?

eternal

Hiace. wrote: »

Any luck with the breakers yards ?

Im going to wait see what he quotes me for the part,then ill ask him what exactly the part is.At which point ill know what to do.ill ring the two I know of here.i got hubcaps at one place before,someone was scrapping a fine bmw there.was a shame.

Hiace.

eternal wrote: »

Im going to wait see what he quotes me for the part,then ill ask him what exactly the part is.At which point ill know what to do.ill ring the two I know of here.i got hubcaps at one place before,someone was scrapping a fine bmw there.was a shame.

Remember brand new prices are a world of difference from second hard parts.

You could also offer to get the part for him from a breakers yard, and ask if he would fit it for you.

Garages won't do this for customers as it's too time consuming and awkward to be worth their while, but they don't mind fitting them as long as the customer realises it is a second hand part and there is no guarentee that its working, or how long it will work.

But Really and truly for older cars, breakers yard parts are the best option most of the time.

eternal

note taken about the yard
I really should point out Im female and have no notion of the inner workings of cars.Not being sexist but garages do take advantage of women and I am a bit of a spacer so I really am a walking accident .:o

Mr.Boots

Just to point out, im a male and dont know how to work the hoover.

eternal

ha ha ,Id say that one is a 'pretend ' not being able to work .

Nissan doctor

eternal wrote: »

I am here to get advice on my car.im sorry if my infomation isnt complete but I havent a clue really.when and if I know more ill say.im not shallow and stupid enough to waste time on here.maybe the frustration made me vent a bit.only human im afraid.

If you've had bad experiences with this garage before then that's one thing.

The reason people are posting as they are in this thread is that the thread was started to slate a garage(albeit unnamed) for ripping you off despite you having no idea what part is broken, what part is required or how much its going to be. The fact that you saw a washer or small plastic part or whatever on the floor before they finished with the car has no relevance to what part they may have to order IMO.

Tails142

OP,

I was sitting in a garage the other day waiting for my car to be ready.

Anyway was chatting to the mechanic and he's telling me about this women that comes to him with all her problems, her car is a piece of crap and he's sick of dealing with her.

I was just chuckling away saying, "Oh I'm sure its a nightmare having to deal with people like that".

Anyway, just as it happens a woman pulls up and comes in. Anyway he's going through with the woman what's wrong with the car and is listing off a whole load of stuff thats wrong with the car. Tells this lady it will cost about €1500 euro to fix all her problems and that its more than the car is worth etc etc.

So she eventually goes away, and I'm hoping he's gonna say my car is ready cos I've been sitting there a while now. He turns to me and says, "That was the one I was telling you about, I gave her a high price because I just want to be rid of her, more trouble than she's worth".

So anyway that's my story, my advice OP would be to get a second opinion cause your mechanic could be sick of listening to you!

eternal

doubtful ,my car is really nice plus he has bad hearing so cant hear me ,i have to shout.
I moved house anyway so it wont be viable for me to keep going to him so its not to get rid of me.why would he want to get rid of me when im paying his beer money ? I know what you mean though

eternal

I was quoted 50 for the part ,says it has to come from germany.and 100 for labour.from what ive said ,does that sound crazy ?